Anonymous
01/17/2012 20:49
Subject: Paula Deen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A lot of ignorance and bad science on this thread. People need to stop speaking so irresponsibly. You obviously know little about diabetes and even less about being humane. You would never talk stupidly like this for attribution.
What bad science? If you are trying to dispute the link between obesity and diabetes I would love to see your evidence, because everything I have ever seen suggests a very strong link, e.g.:
http://meps.ahrq.gov/mepsweb/data_files/publications/st34/stat34.pdf
"adult diabetics were more than three times as likely to be extremely obese than nondiabetic adults"
I don't judge Paula for eating herself into diabetes. Many of us have struggled with our weight. What I blame her for is making a living from selling obesity-causing food to an already obese nation rather than doing anything to turn things around, as certain other celebrity chefs have tried.
Right, but I think some PPs are making the point that it isn't the dietary fat by itself that's caused her (or anyone) to become overweight or obese, it's the processed carbohydrates. I have a familiarity with her foods by reputation only, and they aren't just fat bombs, they're carb bombs, too, aren't they?
Anonymous
01/17/2012 19:46
Subject: Re:Paula Deen
http://diabetes.webmd.com/guide/type-2-diabetes
Anyone can get type 2 diabetes. However, those at highest risk for the disease are those who are obese or overweight, women who have had gestational diabetes, people with family members who have type 2 diabetes and people who have metabolic syndrome (a cluster of problems that include high cholesterol, high triglycerides, low good 'HDL' cholesterol and a high bad 'LDL' cholesterol, and high blood pressure). In addition, older people are more susceptible to developing the disease since aging makes the body less tolerant of sugars.
Anyone can get type 2 diabetes. However, those at highest risk for the disease are those who are obese or overweight, women who have had gestational diabetes, people with family members who have type 2 diabetes and people who have metabolic syndrome (a cluster of problems that include high cholesterol, high triglycerides, low good 'HDL' cholesterol and a high bad 'LDL' cholesterol, and high blood pressure). In addition, older people are more susceptible to developing the disease since aging makes the body less tolerant of sugars.
Anonymous
Anonymous
01/17/2012 08:12
Subject: Paula Deen
Not surprised, just saw her on today show as a paid spokesman for some drug. She said she has had it for 3 years.
Anonymous
01/17/2012 05:46
Subject: Paula Deen
Anonymous wrote:A lot of ignorance and bad science on this thread. People need to stop speaking so irresponsibly. You obviously know little about diabetes and even less about being humane. You would never talk stupidly like this for attribution.
What bad science? If you are trying to dispute the link between obesity and diabetes I would love to see your evidence, because everything I have ever seen suggests a very strong link, e.g.:
http://meps.ahrq.gov/mepsweb/data_files/publications/st34/stat34.pdf
"adult diabetics were more than three times as likely to be extremely obese than nondiabetic adults"
I don't judge Paula for eating herself into diabetes. Many of us have struggled with our weight. What I blame her for is making a living from selling obesity-causing food to an already obese nation rather than doing anything to turn things around, as certain other celebrity chefs have tried.
Anonymous
01/17/2012 00:39
Subject: Re:Paula Deen
Her cooking made her famous and a fortune but may have also caused her to have a disease jeopardizing her health.
Anonymous
01/16/2012 23:23
Subject: Paula Deen
A lot of ignorance and bad science on this thread. People need to stop speaking so irresponsibly. You obviously know little about diabetes and even less about being humane. You would never talk stupidly like this for attribution.
Anonymous
01/16/2012 21:14
Subject: Paula Deen
Whether it was the fat or the carbs, it is clear that her cooking is insanely unhealthy. Clearly the link between obesity and type 2 diabetes is more like smoking and lung cancer than cancer and hair dye.
Anonymous
01/16/2012 21:11
Subject: Re:Paula Deen
I didn't say that. I said it wasn't the butter and the grease that gave her diabetes.
Anonymous
01/16/2012 21:01
Subject: Paula Deen
So you really think that all her unhealthy cooking did nothing to contribute to her diabetes?
Anonymous
01/16/2012 21:00
Subject: Re:Paula Deen
Really though, butter and grease doesn't cause diabetes. "sugar" in all its forms does. And I'm sure Paula Deen has taken in her fair share of sugar. If she had heart disease, maybe you could blame that on the butter, but even that's debatable.
Anonymous
01/16/2012 20:45
Subject: Paula Deen
Anonymous wrote:She has great recipes. You all are being too simplistic in blaming the butter for her diabetes.
When you hear that a celebrity has cancer, do you start pointing at her use of hair dye, or her consumption of pesticides on fruits and vegetables, or her use of epoxy glue in an unventilated room? 'Cause you are so sure it's that one factor that gave her cancer? 'Cause it's okay to say things like that when someone gets a diagnosis like cancer or diabetes? Is it going to be okay to do that when you get such a diagnosis? Can your friends point to one thing in your lifestyle that is the cause? Will they be right, or just stupidly speculating?
Yes it could be genetics. But it could also be all the butter and grease. If we don't talk about that, it would be the elephant in the room.
Anonymous
01/16/2012 20:42
Subject: Paula Deen
Anonymous wrote:She has great recipes. You all are being too simplistic in blaming the butter for her diabetes.
When you hear that a celebrity has cancer, do you start pointing at her use of hair dye, or her consumption of pesticides on fruits and vegetables, or her use of epoxy glue in an unventilated room? 'Cause you are so sure it's that one factor that gave her cancer? 'Cause it's okay to say things like that when someone gets a diagnosis like cancer or diabetes? Is it going to be okay to do that when you get such a diagnosis? Can your friends point to one thing in your lifestyle that is the cause? Will they be right, or just stupidly speculating?
I guess if a celebrity came down with lung cancer after years of telling everyone how wonderful cigarettes were, and made a point of endorsing it and cultivating it, and then continued this behavior after finding out they had lung cancer, then yes I might say something.