I *do* have a visibly toned body, so my response to the OP was objective and not just based on the nice things men say to me about my body. It doesn't bother me that certain attributes that I possess are not everyone's cup of tea so it doesn't bother me to acknowledge the likely truth. Please find a study where men list muscles as one of the top things they look for in a woman ...

Maybe I was unclear. (B) was relevant to you point about muscles being in the top 3. My experience would lead me to think that muscles are in the top 3, but see (B), I shouldn't be so sure. You're experience has led you to think muscles aren't in the top 3, but see (B).

Actresses, supermodels, and even runway models have become more muscular, so I have some evidence for thinking I might be right about the top 3. But, see (A), it doesn't really matter because men have varied tastes.

You can all calm your great hulking bodies down, lol. I didn't say anything other than the OP isn't the only woman who is uninterested in visible muscle definition and that I doubt that visible muscle definition is among the top three things men who are sexually interested in women look for. If you can prove otherwise, go ahead, but don't get yourself in a tizzy over what is most likely the truth. I also doubt the type of hair I have (for example) is in the top three things men look for in a woman but I don't get all worked up over it.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I don't think you're alone. And I don't think visible muscle definition is in the top three things straight American men look for in women.

Yea, because Jessica Biel looks horrible. Who'd want to look like that when there is Roseanne Barr?

Yes, because muscle definition vs no muscle definition either looks like Jessica Biel or Roseanne, with nothing in between. And I'm sure your body looks just like Jessica Biel's!

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A) Let's stop pretending that all men want the same thing. That's what causes stupid discussions like this in the first place. The OP likes her body and so does her husband. Mine would much prefer my muscular body. Great for all of us. Why she posted, I am not sure.

B) You get positive feedback for what you have. Men are always telling me my muscles are sexy. If you have big boobs men are always telling you those are sexy.

While you're at it, "let's" also stop misreading other people's posts. I'm sure OP's husband drools over her non-muscular body and your husband breaks into a sweat over your biceps and nothing I said in my PP said anything against that. Again, I said I doubt visible muscle definition is in the top three things most straight men in this country look for in a woman.

As for your point B, thanks for sharing an obvious point, although it wasn't relevant to my post.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I don't think you're alone. And I don't think visible muscle definition is in the top three things straight American men look for in women.

A) Let's stop pretending that all men want the same thing. That's what causes stupid discussions like this in the first place. The OP likes her body and so does her husband. Mine would much prefer my muscular body. Great for all of us. Why she posted, I am not sure.

B) You get positive feedback for what you have. Men are always telling me my muscles are sexy. If you have big boobs men are always telling you those are sexy.

Yup, if you have small tits, they are an ass man.

A & B person here. You made me laugh out loud.

But the truth is there are boob men and ass men, and more. My husband is an ass man. I've seen the past girlfriends, all good asses, no big boobs. My point was not so much the "anything to get laid" of the Next P, but that a man who has choices will go for what he likes. The guys who like my body type say so. Thankfully, the guys who want more softness and boob don't usually tell me that my body stinks. That's as it should be. But I think it makes some women think that what they have, whatever it is, is what all men want. Ass men tell me they like my ass. I'm not stupid enough to think that means all men prefer my ass to big boobs. But, some do.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I don't think you're alone. And I don't think visible muscle definition is in the top three things straight American men look for in women.

A) Let's stop pretending that all men want the same thing. That's what causes stupid discussions like this in the first place. The OP likes her body and so does her husband. Mine would much prefer my muscular body. Great for all of us. Why she posted, I am not sure.

B) You get positive feedback for what you have. Men are always telling me my muscles are sexy. If you have big boobs men are always telling you those are sexy.

Men will say anything to get laid!

Can you imagine being overweight and your husband saying "Well, fit women with a tiny waist, apple bottom, and perky tits are really what get me hard". Of course not, you will morph into their type so they can get screwed from time to time. Men aren't that stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I don't think you're alone. And I don't think visible muscle definition is in the top three things straight American men look for in women.

A) Let's stop pretending that all men want the same thing. That's what causes stupid discussions like this in the first place. The OP likes her body and so does her husband. Mine would much prefer my muscular body. Great for all of us. Why she posted, I am not sure.

B) You get positive feedback for what you have. Men are always telling me my muscles are sexy. If you have big boobs men are always telling you those are sexy.

Yup, if you have small tits, they are an ass man.

Anonymous wrote:No, I don't think you're alone. And I don't think visible muscle definition is in the top three things straight American men look for in women.

A) Let's stop pretending that all men want the same thing. That's what causes stupid discussions like this in the first place. The OP likes her body and so does her husband. Mine would much prefer my muscular body. Great for all of us. Why she posted, I am not sure.

B) You get positive feedback for what you have. Men are always telling me my muscles are sexy. If you have big boobs men are always telling you those are sexy.

Anonymous wrote:No, I don't think you're alone. And I don't think visible muscle definition is in the top three things straight American men look for in women.

Yea, because Jessica Biel looks horrible. Who'd want to look like that when there is Roseanne Barr?

No, I don't think you're alone. And I don't think visible muscle definition is in the top three things straight American men look for in women.

To the PPs, yes, I said slim to medium which I put all the way up to a sz ten. Which many here would consider fat.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole obsession with the idea of skinny fat cracks me up. Women with really built up muscles is a fairly recent phenomenon. Historically women were seen as more attractive if they were on the slim to medium range with soft curves. I'm sure the pendulum will swing back in that direction at some point, just like tanning has gone out of fashion.

Actually, historically women were seen as attractive if they were on the plump side by today's standards. Still are in some countries...when I go to my DH's home country, his family are like "why are you so skinny? You need to get fatter so you can be healthy and pretty!"

Yea, fat was attractive in countries and in historical times when food was scarce. Plump is still attractive in Africa, where people are starving, it is a sign of wealth, not so much here.

Anonymous wrote:This whole obsession with the idea of skinny fat cracks me up. Women with really built up muscles is a fairly recent phenomenon. Historically women were seen as more attractive if they were on the slim to medium range with soft curves. I'm sure the pendulum will swing back in that direction at some point, just like tanning has gone out of fashion.

Actually, historically women were seen as attractive if they were on the plump side by today's standards. Still are in some countries...when I go to my DH's home country, his family are like "why are you so skinny? You need to get fatter so you can be healthy and pretty!"

This whole obsession with the idea of skinny fat cracks me up. Women with really built up muscles is a fairly recent phenomenon. Historically women were seen as more attractive if they were on the slim to medium range with soft curves. I'm sure the pendulum will swing back in that direction at some point, just like tanning has gone out of fashion.

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Anonymous wrote:My DH likes boobs on women. I have nice boobs, so it doesn't really matter if I have a sixpack or I'm just in shape.

P.S. I don't think my DH is terribly in the minority on this one, and being "cut" really makes it impossible to have nice breasts, sans obnoxious-looking implants.

this is interesting because I feel I have to work to keep the belly fat down in order to improve the appearance of my boobs. Otherwise, I just look lumpy.

Ew, I know! Boobs look so much better when they don't rest on the belly! Saggy post baby boobs over beer gut? YUCK!

Anonymous wrote:My DH likes boobs on women. I have nice boobs, so it doesn't really matter if I have a sixpack or I'm just in shape.

P.S. I don't think my DH is terribly in the minority on this one, and being "cut" really makes it impossible to have nice breasts, sans obnoxious-looking implants.

this is interesting because I feel I have to work to keep the belly fat down in order to improve the appearance of my boobs. Otherwise, I just look lumpy.