Anonymous
Post 01/03/2012 09:03     Subject: Dream team 2012

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:VP puts her in position for 2016. Not only does it almost assure her of the nomination, but allows her to build (and rebuild) relations with the Senate.


Now that's just silly. It sets her up to be Obama's clown and carry the weight for all his failures. And for what? She can run in 2016 against President Romney more effectively if she isn't roped to the Obama "legacy."
True. As long as Obama doesn't stick her in front of the UN to lie to them about a cause for going to war, he can't really hurt her.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2012 01:58     Subject: Dream team 2012

Anonymous wrote:VP puts her in position for 2016. Not only does it almost assure her of the nomination, but allows her to build (and rebuild) relations with the Senate.


Now that's just silly. It sets her up to be Obama's clown and carry the weight for all his failures. And for what? She can run in 2016 against President Romney more effectively if she isn't roped to the Obama "legacy."
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2012 13:11     Subject: Re:Dream team 2012

I'm so disappointed in Obama, especially after he signed the NDAA into law yesterday, even after having serious reservations about the implications. What a whimp.
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/president-obama-signs-indefinite-detention-bill-law
TheManWithAUsername
Post 01/01/2012 12:55     Subject: Dream team 2012

Anonymous wrote:If Biden looked like he were poised to win the White House, he'd be the most hated man in (Red State) America within a week. That's what Fox News, Limbaugh, the WSJ editorial page, etc, etc... exists for.

Yep. The most powerful and/or promising Democrat is ipso facto the most radical (and probably un-Christian) leftist ever to enter American politics. Remember those ridiculous "analyses" concluding that Kerry, then Obama, were each the most left Senator, notwithstanding, say, Bernie Sanders?
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2012 11:28     Subject: Dream team 2012

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure, but so does Romney. Or Obama. Or any other candidate who's a known entity. Hillary's real deficit is that she's not the tallest, most charismatic candidate in the race. And that's really the only factor that correlates to electoral success in the post-Kennedy age.


Yeah, but not Biden. Biden does not generate a serious amount of hostility.


If Biden looked like he were poised to win the White House, he'd be the most hated man in (Red State) America within a week. That's what Fox News, Limbaugh, the WSJ editorial page, etc, etc... exists for.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2011 22:34     Subject: Dream team 2012

VP puts her in position for 2016. Not only does it almost assure her of the nomination, but allows her to build (and rebuild) relations with the Senate.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2011 21:52     Subject: Dream team 2012

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Biden is a decent politician who is somewhat gaffe-prone but who enjoys the respect of both sides of the aisle. "

yes, but enthusiasm generating - not so much.


Unfortunately she generates quite a lot of "enthusiasm" on the political right. They feel about her what we feel about Pat Buchanan or Rush Limbaugh.


That's a pretty outdated perception, you know. It isn't 2008 anymore.


Really? Do you think there are a lot of Republicans who have rethought how they feel about her?


I don't know if there are a lot, but I am a Republican with loads more respect for Hillary Clinton than I had in 2008. The idea that she could energize Obama's campaign is scary. Would she do it if asked? Hillary at the top of the ticket is even scarier, because agree or disagree with her, nobody out there on either side can touch her qualifications. But I doubt she would challenge the President, and he is way too arrogant to step aside, even for the good of his party or the country. Practical question: Why would she want to be VP? Doesn't she have a more important job now than she would have as VP? I suppose it depends on how the Pres chooses to use the VP, right?
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2011 21:43     Subject: Dream team 2012

Anonymous wrote:Sure, but so does Romney. Or Obama. Or any other candidate who's a known entity. Hillary's real deficit is that she's not the tallest, most charismatic candidate in the race. And that's really the only factor that correlates to electoral success in the post-Kennedy age.


Yeah, but not Biden. Biden does not generate a serious amount of hostility.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2011 16:57     Subject: Dream team 2012

I agree with president Clinton. I hate Hillary too.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2011 16:34     Subject: Dream team 2012

Sure, but so does Romney. Or Obama. Or any other candidate who's a known entity. Hillary's real deficit is that she's not the tallest, most charismatic candidate in the race. And that's really the only factor that correlates to electoral success in the post-Kennedy age.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2011 16:10     Subject: Dream team 2012

I like Hillary. Bit you are way underestimating the dislike for her. It isn't just the far right. She rubs many people the wrong way.