Anonymous
12/14/2011 06:07
Subject: Re:Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
I cannot believe there are people (I assumed most ppl who read this board are educated) who are DEFENDING this crap. What planet are you on? That "obituary" is sick. They have ceased to be parents. They are the Kardashian family with 80s hairdos and tater tot casseroles. They are nothing but whores who are cashing in on their kids and Michelle's uterus. Here's an idea:pay attention to the children you do have. Ick.
Anonymous
12/13/2011 23:49
Subject: Re:Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
Anonymous wrote:OP here and I disagree that this thread is mean-spirited. I follow the Duggars, watch their show, have an odd (to me) fascination with them. I felt so sad for them when Michelle had this miscarriage.
I am perfectly comfortable posting this PUBLIC news, however. 100% comfortable. When you turn your "private" grief into a publicity moment with People magazine (updating every several hours with news on this turn of events), you open yourself up for criticism.
To ANNOUNCE that you are having a celebration of life/funeral for a 3-inch fetus that never knew sentience, along with an obituary is absurd. I find JB&M's actions insulting to life, not supportive of it. If they really want to support life, they could start with paying some attention to and getting some services for their developmentally delayed toddler.
This latest publicity is all about the TLC gravy train, fame whoring, and right to life propaganda. This is going to be all over the right to life websites in no time.
I have several friends and a family member who have grieved miscarriages too, but they did so privately. JB&M need to study that word in a home school lesson at their dining room table. Then they should have a real life lesson where they apply the meaning of the word, which is seemingly unfamiliar to them.
An obituary is an ANNOUNCEMENT. That's what people do, they put it in the paper. And the fact that you don't get having a funeral for a miscarriage is not their problem, it's yours.
You complain about the fact that this is all going on in public, but then YOU are the reason for the publicity. You and all of the viewers who watch their show with an odd fascination. Now there is nothing they do which will not be public.
Anonymous
12/13/2011 23:43
Subject: Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
I have lost 2 pregnancies in the past year and was treated by most people like it was not a big deal. It was a HUGE deal to me. Maybe the Duggars' loss will remind people that losing a wanted pregnancy is very painful.
Anonymous
12/13/2011 23:11
Subject: Re:Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
I am pro-choice and if I got knocked up right now I'd abort.
That said, I don't see Jubilee's obituary as an "insult to life." The Duggars lost a very wanted pregnancy and that is sad.
That said, I don't see Jubilee's obituary as an "insult to life." The Duggars lost a very wanted pregnancy and that is sad.
Anonymous
12/13/2011 22:47
Subject: Re:Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
Anonymous wrote:I had a m/c and it was a devastating experience. It took me a long time to get over. BUT I would never conflate this with the trauma and tragedy of delivering a stillborn child. I think this obituary is deeply offensive. I don't know if they did it for publicity or to make a pro-life point, but either way it is really terrible.
I'm pro choice but I do believe that life starts at conception. A lost pregnancy will always be seen like a lost life no matter how young the fetus/ebryo/child is.
Anonymous
12/13/2011 22:43
Subject: Re:Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
yet i somehow suspect lowe's is eating up the advertising slots.Anonymous wrote:OP here and I disagree that this thread is mean-spirited. I follow the Duggars, watch their show, have an odd (to me) fascination with them. I felt so sad for them when Michelle had this miscarriage.
I am perfectly comfortable posting this PUBLIC news, however. 100% comfortable. When you turn your "private" grief into a publicity moment with People magazine (updating every several hours with news on this turn of events), you open yourself up for criticism.
To ANNOUNCE that you are having a celebration of life/funeral for a 3-inch fetus that never knew sentience, along with an obituary is absurd. I find JB&M's actions insulting to life, not supportive of it. If they really want to support life, they could start with paying some attention to and getting some services for their developmentally delayed toddler.
This latest publicity is all about the TLC gravy train, fame whoring, and right to life propaganda. This is going to be all over the right to life websites in no time.
I have several friends and a family member who have grieved miscarriages too, but they did so privately. JB&M need to study that word in a home school lesson at their dining room table. Then they should have a real life lesson where they apply the meaning of the word, which is seemingly unfamiliar to them.
Anonymous
12/13/2011 22:43
Subject: Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
Anonymous wrote:Yikes
Were they really going to call it Jubilee?
Hope the name gets forgotten and does not become a trend
Either way
At that size and weight they should be happy. A severly disabled child in that family would be trouble
What a horrible thing to say! I work with SN children and I can't imagine anyone who has a heart saying that a disabled child is "trouble". This is sickening to me!
I just hope all this horrible people are not part of my circle.
Are any of you the co-worker who called the autistic kid dumb on his face during a family friendly office party last week? - from the SN forum if you're familiar with it.
Anonymous
12/13/2011 22:40
Subject: Re:Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
I had a m/c and it was a devastating experience. It took me a long time to get over. BUT I would never conflate this with the trauma and tragedy of delivering a stillborn child. I think this obituary is deeply offensive. I don't know if they did it for publicity or to make a pro-life point, but either way it is really terrible.
Anonymous
12/13/2011 22:31
Subject: Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
Yikes
Were they really going to call it Jubilee?
Hope the name gets forgotten and does not become a trend
Either way
At that size and weight they should be happy. A severly disabled child in that family would be trouble
Were they really going to call it Jubilee?
Hope the name gets forgotten and does not become a trend
Either way
At that size and weight they should be happy. A severly disabled child in that family would be trouble
Anonymous
12/13/2011 22:29
Subject: Re:Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
Anonymous wrote:OP here and I disagree that this thread is mean-spirited. I follow the Duggars, watch their show, have an odd (to me) fascination with them. I felt so sad for them when Michelle had this miscarriage.
I am perfectly comfortable posting this PUBLIC news, however. 100% comfortable. When you turn your "private" grief into a publicity moment with People magazine (updating every several hours with news on this turn of events), you open yourself up for criticism.
To ANNOUNCE that you are having a celebration of life/funeral for a 3-inch fetus that never knew sentience, along with an obituary is absurd. I find JB&M's actions insulting to life, not supportive of it. If they really want to support life, they could start with paying some attention to and getting some services for their developmentally delayed toddler.
This latest publicity is all about the TLC gravy train, fame whoring, and right to life propaganda. This is going to be all over the right to life websites in no time.
I have several friends and a family member who have grieved miscarriages too, but they did so privately. JB&M need to study that word in a home school lesson at their dining room table. Then they should have a real life lesson where they apply the meaning of the word, which is seemingly unfamiliar to them.
OP, don't listen to all the flamers. I totally agree with you and am glad you were able to articulate above why this is so distasteful in a way that I could not.
Anonymous
12/13/2011 22:27
Subject: Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
I'm with the OP. Ratings for their show were down and this pregnancy was supposed to ensure another year on the TLC gravy train. While I'm certain Michelle and JB are grieving, they are doing so in a public manner (while asking for privacy no less) in order to drum up interest in the next season of their show.
Anonymous
12/13/2011 22:14
Subject: Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
I can't get over the hypocrisy! I'm in shock here with this thread. OP I really really hope you don't have children of your own.
We hear experts all over saying that part of grieving a lost pregnancy is naming the child, holding the baby, taking pictures, having a funeral, etc.
When people come here asking "what do I do to help a friend who just lost a baby?" We read people all the time telling the friends to contact and offer to talk about it, refer to the fetus by the name, remember the family on the due date and on the date of the death, etc.
And now, for my surprise, when someone does it you guys get your panties in a bunch? Really?
Don't you have hearts?
This makes me sick!
We hear experts all over saying that part of grieving a lost pregnancy is naming the child, holding the baby, taking pictures, having a funeral, etc.
When people come here asking "what do I do to help a friend who just lost a baby?" We read people all the time telling the friends to contact and offer to talk about it, refer to the fetus by the name, remember the family on the due date and on the date of the death, etc.
And now, for my surprise, when someone does it you guys get your panties in a bunch? Really?
Don't you have hearts?
This makes me sick!
Anonymous
12/13/2011 22:12
Subject: Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
Wow, OP you are pretty nasty.
Those parents can mourn whichever way they want and considering their strong religious views, any moron can figure out that they consider this the death of their baby and not a simple miscarriage.
Like another poster said, NOBODY would have noticed the obit "Negative Nancy" had not posted it.
Those parents can mourn whichever way they want and considering their strong religious views, any moron can figure out that they consider this the death of their baby and not a simple miscarriage.
Like another poster said, NOBODY would have noticed the obit "Negative Nancy" had not posted it.
Anonymous
12/13/2011 22:08
Subject: Re:Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
OP here and I disagree that this thread is mean-spirited. I follow the Duggars, watch their show, have an odd (to me) fascination with them. I felt so sad for them when Michelle had this miscarriage.
I am perfectly comfortable posting this PUBLIC news, however. 100% comfortable. When you turn your "private" grief into a publicity moment with People magazine (updating every several hours with news on this turn of events), you open yourself up for criticism.
To ANNOUNCE that you are having a celebration of life/funeral for a 3-inch fetus that never knew sentience, along with an obituary is absurd. I find JB&M's actions insulting to life, not supportive of it. If they really want to support life, they could start with paying some attention to and getting some services for their developmentally delayed toddler.
This latest publicity is all about the TLC gravy train, fame whoring, and right to life propaganda. This is going to be all over the right to life websites in no time.
I have several friends and a family member who have grieved miscarriages too, but they did so privately. JB&M need to study that word in a home school lesson at their dining room table. Then they should have a real life lesson where they apply the meaning of the word, which is seemingly unfamiliar to them.
I am perfectly comfortable posting this PUBLIC news, however. 100% comfortable. When you turn your "private" grief into a publicity moment with People magazine (updating every several hours with news on this turn of events), you open yourself up for criticism.
To ANNOUNCE that you are having a celebration of life/funeral for a 3-inch fetus that never knew sentience, along with an obituary is absurd. I find JB&M's actions insulting to life, not supportive of it. If they really want to support life, they could start with paying some attention to and getting some services for their developmentally delayed toddler.
This latest publicity is all about the TLC gravy train, fame whoring, and right to life propaganda. This is going to be all over the right to life websites in no time.
I have several friends and a family member who have grieved miscarriages too, but they did so privately. JB&M need to study that word in a home school lesson at their dining room table. Then they should have a real life lesson where they apply the meaning of the word, which is seemingly unfamiliar to them.
Anonymous
12/13/2011 21:57
Subject: Re:Jubilee Shalom Duggar's Obituary
The thing I find disturbing is including the weight and length.