Anonymous
04/20/2012 21:21
Subject: Re:Teacher salary at top private schools
Anonymous wrote:Amen, PP. The "short work day" is the biggest laugh of all!
Amen to both of you all!! I am usually at school until 5:30 or 6:00 and dismissal is at 3:00. I am paid a paltry 49K with 10 years of experience. I started at 19K though, so this seems like a fortune compared to that.
Anonymous
04/20/2012 19:53
Subject: Re:Teacher salary at top private schools
Amen, PP. The "short work day" is the biggest laugh of all!
Anonymous
04/20/2012 18:29
Subject: Teacher salary at top private schools
god I just love it when folks think that most teachers have soooo much vacation time, a short day and weekends. have you absolutely no idea what it takes to actually be in a classroom all day where you get little time to even go to the bathroom let alone grab a cup of coffee. most teachers I know work well past 5pm most days and they grade and plan on weekends. Summers may be great time off and I'll give you that tis't the best benefit but I also spent many summers as a teacher rewriting curricula, planning for a new grade level or taking classes to improve my teaching. My insurance agent with a high school degree makes more than I do as a teacher and she has no work she takes home. I have an MA and work my tail off for 50, 000.
Anonymous
04/19/2012 22:42
Subject: Teacher salary at top private schools
Anonymous wrote:When I shifted from MoCo to private, I went from making 87K to an offer of 56K. Granted, I was offered 50% tuition break for two children, but benefits were not as generous as in MoCo. Public educators make more and with the new requirements for value added based on standardized test scores, you may be guaranteed of getting a better quality teacher.
How many years experience until you got to 80K ?
Anonymous
04/19/2012 22:41
Subject: Re:Teacher salary at top private schools
DC's school had a presentation slide on this as part of the "state of the school". This is at a "Big 3" private popular on these boards. The highest pay grade I saw was for teachers with 25-30 years experience : 90K/ year . Of course, that is in return for working only 10 months a year, so though not by any means "highly paid", that is decent, esp given the short work day and holidays and summers off.
Anonymous
04/19/2012 22:09
Subject: Teacher salary at top private schools
When I shifted from MoCo to private, I went from making 87K to an offer of 56K. Granted, I was offered 50% tuition break for two children, but benefits were not as generous as in MoCo. Public educators make more and with the new requirements for value added based on standardized test scores, you may be guaranteed of getting a better quality teacher.
Anonymous
04/18/2012 09:37
Subject: Re:Teacher salary at top private schools
I have some experience in this topic. Private school faculty members in this area generally are paid starting salaries of about $30-34 k (public tends to start at $40-46 k, with an average bump of roughly 7.5% for further education). Under most circumstances, interim state licensure is required for publics by the end of the second FTE year or the third year, if the position is licensed. Note that many private school teachers are considered "part time" when starting, are paid proportionally less, and receive few if any employee benefits especially when part-time.
With five to seven years' seniority, a public school teacher in this area generally received about $58-70 k. A senior teacher in the Arl, DC, Alex, or MontCo system (more than a dozen years FTE) generally sees 75+ (again, with an average bump of roughly 7.5% for further education). There are sometimes further bumps on the pay-step system, but in many local divisions, steps over the 10 or 12 year point are discretionary and performance-based. The Alex system is about average for the region, and you can see the scales here: http://www.acps.k12.va.us/hr/compensation/
Teachers in public systems in DC, MD and VA, when full-time, must also receive at least minimum pension coverage, which adds relatively significant value to the compensation package. They also receive health, life, accident, and long-term disability-income insurance (except in DC, where long-term disability income insurance is factored into the pension system). At most private schools, partial premium payment for health insurance is the only available benefit. At some private religious schools, there are significant further limitations on benefits.
Social workers/psychs, specialists, and fully RN-licensed school nurses generally are paid on the teacher comp systems. Principals are generally at materially higher grades or on their own higher pay steps.
With five to seven years' seniority, a public school teacher in this area generally received about $58-70 k. A senior teacher in the Arl, DC, Alex, or MontCo system (more than a dozen years FTE) generally sees 75+ (again, with an average bump of roughly 7.5% for further education). There are sometimes further bumps on the pay-step system, but in many local divisions, steps over the 10 or 12 year point are discretionary and performance-based. The Alex system is about average for the region, and you can see the scales here: http://www.acps.k12.va.us/hr/compensation/
Teachers in public systems in DC, MD and VA, when full-time, must also receive at least minimum pension coverage, which adds relatively significant value to the compensation package. They also receive health, life, accident, and long-term disability-income insurance (except in DC, where long-term disability income insurance is factored into the pension system). At most private schools, partial premium payment for health insurance is the only available benefit. At some private religious schools, there are significant further limitations on benefits.
Social workers/psychs, specialists, and fully RN-licensed school nurses generally are paid on the teacher comp systems. Principals are generally at materially higher grades or on their own higher pay steps.
Anonymous
04/18/2012 07:58
Subject: Teacher salary at top private schools
Anonymous wrote:These schools that charge over $30K - what do they pay the teachers? My understanding is that, in general, teachers at private schools get paid far less than teachers at public schools. I was just wondering if that held true for the elite private schools.
SAM2
12/07/2011 22:13
Subject: Teacher salary at top private schools
Anonymous wrote:Is this site in working order ? I have typed in DC's school, zip, TIN number and District of C and get " 0 matches". This school has been in DC 100 years. You thoughts, SAM2 ?
What school? I've discovered that schools with a religious link often do not have reports listed. I assume because they are able to take the position they are exempt from filing 990s.
Anonymous
12/07/2011 21:38
Subject: Teacher salary at top private schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:if you go on goldstar you can see what the highest paid people at these private schools that are non-profits do. they have to disclose some of that information - its a nice way to waste a rainy afternoon :)
Um just kidding this used to exist and now it is something totally different? Which makes me wonder what happened ... sorry!
You can get that here: http://foundationcenter.org/findfunders/990finder/
Sam2
Is this site in working order ? I have typed in DC's school, zip, TIN number and District of C and get " 0 matches". This school has been in DC 100 years. You thoughts, SAM2 ?
Anonymous
12/07/2011 19:05
Subject: Teacher salary at top private schools
Anonymous wrote:We know many faculty families at my son's school, and they do not get tuition remission. They are eligible for FA, just like the rest of us, though, and in a family with two educator parents they generally qualify.
The schools I am familiar with do not offer any tuition remission. STA has a large endowment and it is nice that they are able to offer this benefit, but it is far from standard.
And yes, many/most teachers will qualify for some financial aid, but that can hardly be considered a "benefit"! I work at a private school and teachers' kids don't get any special consideration when it comes to aid, they get what they qualify for.
Anonymous
12/07/2011 14:09
Subject: Re:Teacher salary at top private schools
STA offers full tuition remission for faculty sons and has a fully-endowed scholarship for faculty daughters to attend NCS.
Anonymous
12/07/2011 14:05
Subject: Teacher salary at top private schools
We know many faculty families at my son's school, and they do not get tuition remission. They are eligible for FA, just like the rest of us, though, and in a family with two educator parents they generally qualify.
Anonymous
12/07/2011 13:53
Subject: Teacher salary at top private schools
My kids attend school in the Baltimore area and I think several of them offer remission. I also think that they would qualify and most likely get FA. When I see a parent sending one of their children to private (their school a single sex school) and the others to public (because they can not attend the school where they teach) that can sometimes let you know the remission policy. In general I do not have a problem with it as long as they are qualified and there kids are not jerks getting special privileges.
Anonymous
12/07/2011 12:55
Subject: Re:Teacher salary at top private schools
Anonymous wrote:In DC the BIG added benefit of teaching in a private school is that , in most cases, your kids can go there for free or nearly free ( $ 3K of the 30K fee). So, if you live in ward 1 because your teacher salary does not allow you to buy a home in Horace Mann, Janey or Murch neighborhood, but have three kids it is a great Benefit if they can all go to your private school for free.
As other posters have pointed out, this is a really inaccurate generalization. I'm not aware of any school other than STA that does this, and most of the other privates that people talk about on this board have no or little tuition remission. When faculty kids go to their parent's school, it usually means that the other parent has much higher paying job.