I don't need your sympathy, but thanks. My neighbors and I are organized, connected, kinda old, and collectively pretty wealthy. We like Mayberry. We'll manage (as we always have) to thwart the Clarendo-Bethes-Ilver Spring Faux Towne Centre Ye Olde Commons high-rise development that you so desperately want.

Enjoy your rental unit and your Zip Car! And enjoy your 20s, too. Me, I'm enjoying my driveway.

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Actually they DO have an inherent right. They pay property taxes. I'm all for development but I'm against suburbanites thinking they "own" residential DC areas.

I pay property taxes in DC too, but not in that area. I imagine the NIMBYs have as many roblems with me parking to go out to dinner as their counterparts in MD.

I'm against suburbanites thinking they "own" residential DC areas.

I couldn't agree more. Except here, the "suburbanites" in question are the people who live in CCDC, Cleveland Park, etc. They want a suburban existence without the inconvenience of living in a suburb. There are good and bad things to living in the city - parking is one of the drawbacks. It's ridiculous to limit rational infill and growth patterns because you want to live in Mayberry.

(I'd have a little more sympathy if I thought any of these whiners had trouble parking their one car. But I'll bet that many/most of them have 2+, just want to use the street for free parking, and don't want to be inconvenienced. Don't even get me started on the "they block my driveway" crowd - they HAVE parking, but don't want additional development because of a few lawbreakers. But really, how ridiculous is, "People sometimes block my driveway, so we should stop potentially millions of dollars in development." Ridiculous.

If it makes you feel better, this suburbanite pays property tax on a home in the District.

Not really. Do you pay income taxes? Or vote in DC? No? Okay, we don't care what you have to say then.

I couldn't agree more. Except here, the "suburbanites" in question are the people who live in CCDC, Cleveland Park, etc. They want a suburban existence without the inconvenience of living in a suburb. There are good and bad things to living in the city - parking is one of the drawbacks. It's ridiculous to limit rational infill and growth patterns because you want to live in Mayberry.

(I'd have a little more sympathy if I thought any of these whiners had trouble parking their one car. But I'll bet that many/most of them have 2+, just want to use the street for free parking, and don't want to be inconvenienced. Don't even get me started on the "they block my driveway" crowd - they HAVE parking, but don't want additional development because of a few lawbreakers. But really, how ridiculous is, "People sometimes block my driveway, so we should stop potentially millions of dollars in development." Ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:

Actually they DO have an inherent right. They pay property taxes. I'm all for development but I'm against suburbanites thinking they "own" residential DC areas.

I pay property taxes in DC too, but not in that area. I imagine the NIMBYs have as many roblems with me parking to go out to dinner as their counterparts in MD.

I'm against suburbanites thinking they "own" residential DC areas.

I couldn't agree more. Except here, the "suburbanites" in question are the people who live in CCDC, Cleveland Park, etc. They want a suburban existence without the inconvenience of living in a suburb. There are good and bad things to living in the city - parking is one of the drawbacks. It's ridiculous to limit rational infill and growth patterns because you want to live in Mayberry.

(I'd have a little more sympathy if I thought any of these whiners had trouble parking their one car. But I'll bet that many/most of them have 2+, just want to use the street for free parking, and don't want to be inconvenienced. Don't even get me started on the "they block my driveway" crowd - they HAVE parking, but don't want additional development because of a few lawbreakers. But really, how ridiculous is, "People sometimes block my driveway, so we should stop potentially millions of dollars in development." Ridiculous.

If it makes you feel better, this suburbanite pays property tax on a home in the District.

Anonymous wrote:

Actually they DO have an inherent right. They pay property taxes. I'm all for development but I'm against suburbanites thinking they "own" residential DC areas.

I pay property taxes in DC too, but not in that area. I imagine the NIMBYs have as many roblems with me parking to go out to dinner as their counterparts in MD.

I'm against suburbanites thinking they "own" residential DC areas.

I couldn't agree more. Except here, the "suburbanites" in question are the people who live in CCDC, Cleveland Park, etc. They want a suburban existence without the inconvenience of living in a suburb. There are good and bad things to living in the city - parking is one of the drawbacks. It's ridiculous to limit rational infill and growth patterns because you want to live in Mayberry.

(I'd have a little more sympathy if I thought any of these whiners had trouble parking their one car. But I'll bet that many/most of them have 2+, just want to use the street for free parking, and don't want to be inconvenienced. Don't even get me started on the "they block my driveway" crowd - they HAVE parking, but don't want additional development because of a few lawbreakers. But really, how ridiculous is, "People sometimes block my driveway, so we should stop potentially millions of dollars in development." Ridiculous.

Actually they DO have an inherent right. They pay property taxes. I'm all for development but I'm against suburbanites thinking they "own" residential DC areas.

I'm against suburbanites thinking they "own" residential DC areas.

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So instead of having a higher tax base, wealthier residents moving in and better options you'll take Babes, a Giant stuck in the 1920s and still have the traffic except they're from Maryland not DC. It's not like they plan to develop Newark or Macomb. It's the main thoroughfares!

It's not thru-traffic, it's the tens of hundreds of cars circling the residential blocks, looking for free on-street parking. Then they get understandably pissed and create a "spot" hanging over 50% of your driveway. Think Adams Morgan. No thanks.

We solved that in Clarendon by having County change zone parking restrictions. Non-residents can only park btwn 1am-8am 24/7. No parking for bars/restaurants, traders or whole foods anymore. It went from an Adams Morgan atmosphere back to residential overnight.

Of course-DC would never do that. Business hasn't suffered over here and there's a ton to walk too.

They do this in Edgemoor/Bethesda also -- some streets are residential permit (narrow area), 24/7. But I can just here the whining if DC were institute such parking restrictions on the side streets in Cleveland Park or Tenleytown.

Yep. I am a former DC resident and they do seem to cater to those that live outside of the District more than their own residents at times.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So instead of having a higher tax base, wealthier residents moving in and better options you'll take Babes, a Giant stuck in the 1920s and still have the traffic except they're from Maryland not DC. It's not like they plan to develop Newark or Macomb. It's the main thoroughfares!

It's not thru-traffic, it's the tens of hundreds of cars circling the residential blocks, looking for free on-street parking. Then they get understandably pissed and create a "spot" hanging over 50% of your driveway. Think Adams Morgan. No thanks.

We solved that in Clarendon by having County change zone parking restrictions. Non-residents can only park btwn 1am-8am 24/7. No parking for bars/restaurants, traders or whole foods anymore. It went from an Adams Morgan atmosphere back to residential overnight.

Of course-DC would never do that. Business hasn't suffered over here and there's a ton to walk too.

They do this in Edgemoor/Bethesda also -- some streets are residential permit (narrow area), 24/7. But I can just here the whining if DC were institute such parking restrictions on the side streets in Cleveland Park or Tenleytown.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So instead of having a higher tax base, wealthier residents moving in and better options you'll take Babes, a Giant stuck in the 1920s and still have the traffic except they're from Maryland not DC. It's not like they plan to develop Newark or Macomb. It's the main thoroughfares!

It's not thru-traffic, it's the tens of hundreds of cars circling the residential blocks, looking for free on-street parking. Then they get understandably pissed and create a "spot" hanging over 50% of your driveway. Think Adams Morgan. No thanks.

We solved that in Clarendon by having County change zone parking restrictions. Non-residents can only park btwn 1am-8am 24/7. No parking for bars/restaurants, traders or whole foods anymore. It went from an Adams Morgan atmosphere back to residential overnight.

Of course-DC would never do that. Business hasn't suffered over here and there's a ton to walk too.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So instead of having a higher tax base, wealthier residents moving in and better options you'll take Babes, a Giant stuck in the 1920s and still have the traffic except they're from Maryland not DC. It's not like they plan to develop Newark or Macomb. It's the main thoroughfares!

It's not thru-traffic, it's the tens of hundreds of cars circling the residential blocks, looking for free on-street parking. Then they get understandably pissed and create a "spot" hanging over 50% of your driveway. Think Adams Morgan. No thanks.

The driveway blocking "complaint" is such a red herring. Call the cops, get them ticketed and towed. I seriously doubt your driveway (if you have one)is inaccessible every weekend. More likely, your beef is that the people looking for free on-street parking are making it more difficult for YOU to find free on-street parking. To which I say, tough. It's a public street, you have no inherent right to free parking.

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So instead of having a higher tax base, wealthier residents moving in and better options you'll take Babes, a Giant stuck in the 1920s and still have the traffic except they're from Maryland not DC. It's not like they plan to develop Newark or Macomb. It's the main thoroughfares!

It's not thru-traffic, it's the tens of hundreds of cars circling the residential blocks, looking for free on-street parking. Then they get understandably pissed and create a "spot" hanging over 50% of your driveway. Think Adams Morgan. No thanks.