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Anonymous wrote:I would imagine there are mroe families at the W schools are are wrapped up in these stats enough to make sure their kids' information gets reported. I can see lots of folks at Blair not bothering to report, because they are not so hung up on these competitive comparisons.

I'm a Whitman parent and I can assure you that this is not the case. I assume this data comes out of Naviance, which is run by the college counseling office. Parents have no role in updating it, reporting it or whatever. The schools know where the applications are going because they send all the transcripts and recommendations.

Do the schools also get notified about which schools end up accepting the students?

Either that or the kids report to their counselors. The whole point of Naviance is to look at the profile of accepted students from a particular school so the acceptance data is critical to make it useful.

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Anonymous wrote:I would imagine there are mroe families at the W schools are are wrapped up in these stats enough to make sure their kids' information gets reported. I can see lots of folks at Blair not bothering to report, because they are not so hung up on these competitive comparisons.

I'm a Whitman parent and I can assure you that this is not the case. I assume this data comes out of Naviance, which is run by the college counseling office. Parents have no role in updating it, reporting it or whatever. The schools know where the applications are going because they send all the transcripts and recommendations.

Do the schools also get notified about which schools end up accepting the students?

Anonymous wrote:I would imagine there are mroe families at the W schools are are wrapped up in these stats enough to make sure their kids' information gets reported. I can see lots of folks at Blair not bothering to report, because they are not so hung up on these competitive comparisons.

I'm a Whitman parent and I can assure you that this is not the case. I assume this data comes out of Naviance, which is run by the college counseling office. Parents have no role in updating it, reporting it or whatever. The schools know where the applications are going because they send all the transcripts and recommendations.

To be clear, the magazine lists applied and accepted for each college reported. So for Blair, there might be 2 out of 30 accepted, but for Whitman, there might be 14 out of 30 accepted. I wonder if Blair is not doing a good job counseling students about which colleges to apply to.

I would imagine there are mroe families at the W schools are are wrapped up in these stats enough to make sure their kids' information gets reported. I can see lots of folks at Blair not bothering to report, because they are not so hung up on these competitive comparisons.

Go to Harvard's website. It says that families making $65,000 or less pay nothing. There's lots of empirical evidence that low-income families don't realize that a top private may be less expensive than the state college. But you're saying, a Blair family making $80,000 that is asked to pay $10,000 should have no problem, right? Oh, wait....

But anyway, Harvard/Princeton/Yale aren't going to admit more than a handful of kids from any school in a given year, obviously. So this isn't some magic bullet that is going to equalize acceptance rates between Blair kids and those Wooton kids with parents who can help with the English essay and pay for the math tutor.

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Bear in mind also that the ivies (I assume OP is carping about Blair's ivy matriculation rates) by agreement don't offer merit aid. So at ivies you can only get income-based financial aid, which generally isn't available to families with incomes under $100k barring special circumstances (or if the college has a huge endowment, like Harvard).

Wait, what? You mean income-based generally isn't available to families with incomes OVER $100k, don't you?

Also I'm not sure that's true -- at least not at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale, which all have no-loan financial aid policies.

So you're arguing that there are no financial considerations that separate Blair and Whitman kids? That's just silly.

No, I'm arguing that Harvard, Princeton, and Yale give financial aid to families with incomes over $100,000.

Which is a family with one govt professional or two non-professional parents. Versus the families that can afford a $700k and over -- way over -- house in Bethesda or Potomac. You should step out of your bubble once in a while.

Anonymous wrote:This is such a silly conversation. Blair is huge and very diverse so of course their stats are going to be less stellar. This means nothing for your individual student.

Blair has lots of challenging courses, a good peer group for academically inclined kids, and a recognized name. Kids can certainly get into Ivys or other prestigious schools (or UMD for that matter) from Blair.

If your child goes there, it will be fine.

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This is such a silly conversation. Blair is huge and very diverse so of course their stats are going to be less stellar. This means nothing for your individual student.

Blair has lots of challenging courses, a good peer group for academically inclined kids, and a recognized name. Kids can certainly get into Ivys or other prestigious schools (or UMD for that matter) from Blair.

If your child goes there, it will be fine.

I haven't found it online. I think it's only in print.

The magazine doesn't list matriculation rates, just acceptances (as reported by the schools.) I don't know much about Blair, but I always thought the discrepancy was simply related to the small relative size of the magnets there as compared to the regular student body. I assume (maybe wrongly) that Blair magnet kids do very well in competitive college admission but that the overall student body does less well than other area schools (also maybe a wrong asumption, although the Bethesda mag stats seem to bear it out.)

Also consider that the Bethesda mag stats besides being subject to the vagaries of self reporting, also only include the. Ounty's most competititive HD - the Ws and BCC.

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Bear in mind also that the ivies (I assume OP is carping about Blair's ivy matriculation rates) by agreement don't offer merit aid. So at ivies you can only get income-based financial aid, which generally isn't available to families with incomes under $100k barring special circumstances (or if the college has a huge endowment, like Harvard).

Wait, what? You mean income-based generally isn't available to families with incomes OVER $100k, don't you?

Also I'm not sure that's true -- at least not at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale, which all have no-loan financial aid policies.

So you're arguing that there are no financial considerations that separate Blair and Whitman kids? That's just silly.

No, I'm arguing that Harvard, Princeton, and Yale give financial aid to families with incomes over $100,000.

Too many negro and new asian.

Fewer legacies/athletic recruits at Blair than in Potomac?

Anonymous wrote:The lists have number applied and number accepted, not matriculated. It is not just ivy league schools. It's all types of colleges. For example, American University. Much higher acceptance rate from the other schools included.

Can you link? I tried to find the list in the current issue of Bethesda Magazine online, but couldn't.