I did my undergrad at GWU. I got enough financial aid to where I had to borrow 10k a year to go there. My family had no money for me.

I also applied to UNC, Tufts, UMass Amherst and U of Pittsburg. I got in everywhere but only pursued financial aid at UNC and GWU - UNC was 10k a year for room/board/tuition/fees compared to GWs 45k, but they gave me so little financial aid that I would have had to borrow the same amount - 10k. So I could borrow 10k and go to UNC or borrow 10k and go to GWU. I picked GWU.

I loved my experience there. It is the only university in the middle of everything in DC - I had no interest in Gtown and still don't. It seems like students there are removed from the city and reality.

I'll take Umd Thank You...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWlC9ICFWK8&feature=BF&playnext=1&list=QL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmUzKfuZiXA&list=QL&playnext=2

http://s1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb468/subapp/?action=view¤t=terpslumlords-1.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/user/UMD2101#p/u/3/KV_osK2RNDM


All this PLUS...More Nobels...More Pulitzers...More Academy awards....And more world changing creations/inventions than all the ACC schools put together. ( Google, Under Armour, Linear programming, Sirius satelite, the octane System, The universal Product Code, Outback Steakhouse, created Seinfeld, The Wire, The Muppets, Syndicated Baywatch, Broke Watergate, Pulse Dopplar Radar, The Hybrid Engine, The Boondocks, The First Large-Screen Stadium TV, Developed Frequent Flyer Programs, Wrote 'Appollo 13, And Diary of a Wimpy Kid", Miniturized insulin umps, Artificial Pancreas, Implanted difibulator, 2 nobel prize winning graduates, 4 pulitzers and 3 academy awards.......38 national championship teams.... Most in the ACC. More Dominance is on the way... UMD 518 million dollar per year in federal research dollars the top physical sciences facility in the United States and the top metoerology facility in the US. Huge COOP with the US Government with NOAA, FDA,Homeland Security, NASA, NIH, FDA,NSA, HHS....3 Nobels on faculty 7 Pulitzers on faculty......NO-ONE WILL BE ABLE TO COMPETE!!!!

wtf is going on in Virginia.
Uva : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ec96THu0U&feature=BF&playnext=1&list=QL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0nMckrYx4w&feature=BF&list=QL&index=2

V tech : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uECizhheY8&feature=BF&list=QL&index=3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQyyZ3zHa3k&feature=BF&list=QL&index=4


W&M: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/12/AR2010111202853.html

http://flathatnews.com/content/74278

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really the top tier is just Harvard. Their acceptance rate is 7%.

If you went by admit percentage alone, the Curtis Institute of Music is the top tier. Only 5% accepted.

You can't go by admissions percentage alone. Every joe schmoe applies to Harvard. Not everyone applies to a top liberal arts college.

What would be TRULY telling of admissions? The average test scores and GPA of all applicants--not just the ones accepted.

Not talking speacialty schools.

Anonymous wrote:Really the top tier is just Harvard. Their acceptance rate is 7%.

If you went by admit percentage alone, the Curtis Institute of Music is the top tier. Only 5% accepted.

You can't go by admissions percentage alone. Every joe schmoe applies to Harvard. Not everyone applies to a top liberal arts college.

What would be TRULY telling of admissions? The average test scores and GPA of all applicants--not just the ones accepted.

Strictly speaking, Oxford and Cambridge are top tier. Only if my kids didn't get in there would we look to the colonies.

Hopkins is in there. But if you're pickey Harvard/MIT thats it.

Really the top tier is just Harvard. Their acceptance rate is 7%.

Anonymous wrote:Top tier COLLEGE also includes:

Swarthmore, Amherst, Williams, Wellesley, Middlebury

Very competitive but not Harvard, etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. I would definitely try to steer my children towards UVA or UMD rather than GWU if they didn't get into the top tier - or to a liberal arts college where you might at least get more for your money than being crammed hundreds to a lecture...

I am not sure about the speculation at the end of the article though:
"What if we actually started measuring how much students learn at their colleges and universities? How would that change the competition among institutions? "

I think unfortunately, subjects like engineering aside, most universities are about signalling your intelligence/status rather than about what they teach you.

UVA is top tier.

Top Tier is Ivy League/MIT/Hopkins/Stanford and really nothing else.

Scratch Hopkins.

GW is not alone. The country is full of private universities selling prestige to academic and social wannabees who didn't get into one of the so-called top tier schools. In the long run it's hard to justify the cost of a private education if you're paying full freight or borrowing it. The list of people who graduated from the old GW, Reid, Powell, et al. may in the long run be more impressive than the list of new alumni.

Top tier COLLEGE also includes:

Swarthmore, Amherst, Williams, Wellesley, Middlebury

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. I would definitely try to steer my children towards UVA or UMD rather than GWU if they didn't get into the top tier - or to a liberal arts college where you might at least get more for your money than being crammed hundreds to a lecture...

I am not sure about the speculation at the end of the article though:
"What if we actually started measuring how much students learn at their colleges and universities? How would that change the competition among institutions? "

I think unfortunately, subjects like engineering aside, most universities are about signalling your intelligence/status rather than about what they teach you.

UVA is top tier.

Top Tier is Ivy League/MIT/Hopkins/Stanford and really nothing else.

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. I would definitely try to steer my children towards UVA or UMD rather than GWU if they didn't get into the top tier - or to a liberal arts college where you might at least get more for your money than being crammed hundreds to a lecture...

I am not sure about the speculation at the end of the article though:
"What if we actually started measuring how much students learn at their colleges and universities? How would that change the competition among institutions? "

I think unfortunately, subjects like engineering aside, most universities are about signalling your intelligence/status rather than about what they teach you.

I have a senior. UVA is not HPY but is extremely hard to get into. Parents in VA joke about the kid doing a stint in CC then auto admission. One good thing about GW is that it has residence halls on campus. It is a good neighbor....Georgetown? AU is the burbs.

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. I would definitely try to steer my children towards UVA or UMD rather than GWU if they didn't get into the top tier - or to a liberal arts college where you might at least get more for your money than being crammed hundreds to a lecture...

I am not sure about the speculation at the end of the article though:
"What if we actually started measuring how much students learn at their colleges and universities? How would that change the competition among institutions? "

I think unfortunately, subjects like engineering aside, most universities are about signalling your intelligence/status rather than about what they teach you.

UVA is top tier.