Former team rep for a high division NVSL team - I can assure you that I had no input into the meet sheet for A meets. Our team lets the coach pick the line-up. The team reps for our team only intervene if a swimmer we know is unavailable for the meet is selected. I wouldn't be on a swim team where a team rep had that kind of power. We also publish our ladder so the A meet selection process is very transparent.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is the coach of an NVSL team. I can tell you with certainty that she and an assistant coach sat at our kitchen table yesterday (wed) at lunch time and made the Saturday meet lineups.

And I'm at a high division pool and I can tell you that our coach makes the lineup and but the rep and others have their say, which is what happens. So there are multiple ways of doing it. I have seen it both ways. But yes, the reps do tell the coaches what to do at some pools and since they are employees they do it.

The league rules are written to say the reps are in charge. If you want to contest, it goes through a rep (coaches are not allowed to do it). The final seeding is an exchanged arranged by the team rep. Coaches might seed the meet but then it goes to the rep afterwards. They could, in theory, make changes. All communications from the league go to the rep. Coaches have very little understanding of the big picture.

It is like a real league where you have the team owner/manager in charge and the coaches work for them. A bad team rep can destroy a team. A good one can do the opposite. There is a reason, people don't want the job.

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Anonymous wrote:We get the roster on Tuesday afternoon and events on Thursday afternoon. It changes week to week so don’t expect anything until after the meet on Monday.

Then you are not swimming NVSL - NVSL A meets are Saturdays.

Our pool generally announces A meet swimmers on Thursdays.

This…is just wrong and dangerous. NVSL here: We get rosters on Tue/Wed. Events on Thu/Fri. Just depending on coaches/ reps schedule. This is in prep for Saturday’s meet.

Whoever posted this should apologize.

Thank you for defending my honor, PP! I’m not sure what made them think I wasn’t describing an NVSL team. Maybe it’s unusual to get the roster first without events assigned?

It is unusual, but not a bad idea at all for a team where it would work. For our team, you'd have needed to sort out events before knowing who the sixth person in an age group would be, because generally it could be one of a few depending on what stroke has the empty lane.

Anonymous wrote:My daughter is the coach of an NVSL team. I can tell you with certainty that she and an assistant coach sat at our kitchen table yesterday (wed) at lunch time and made the Saturday meet lineups.

And I'm at a high division pool and I can tell you that our coach makes the lineup and but the rep and others have their say, which is what happens. So there are multiple ways of doing it. I have seen it both ways. But yes, the reps do tell the coaches what to do at some pools and since they are employees they do it.

NP here. T3 division. We get an email Thursday night if kid is swimming and then they announce the specific events Friday morning. We have been at our pool for 10 years and it has always been this way regardless of who is the coach or team rep.

This is how summer swim is. You do not get much advance notice. You have marked availability so it should be in the plans if you told the team you could make it. Once your kid is a seasoned swimmer, you no longer have to wonder each week if they are swimming but I remember really waiting for that Thursday email in the younger years to see whether we would be at the pool on Saturday.

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Anonymous wrote:We get the roster on Tuesday afternoon and events on Thursday afternoon. It changes week to week so don’t expect anything until after the meet on Monday.

Then you are not swimming NVSL - NVSL A meets are Saturdays.

Our pool generally announces A meet swimmers on Thursdays.

This…is just wrong and dangerous. NVSL here: We get rosters on Tue/Wed. Events on Thu/Fri. Just depending on coaches/ reps schedule. This is in prep for Saturday’s meet.

Whoever posted this should apologize.

Thank you for defending my honor, PP! I’m not sure what made them think I wasn’t describing an NVSL team. Maybe it’s unusual to get the roster first without events assigned?

Anonymous wrote:You do realize that NVSL teams are run by the team rep. So basically they make the call on all things. Usually the coach (who is their employee) is in sync with what is decided.

Um, no. How coaches are hired and paid vares widely across the NVSL and that's a function of how different pool boards are run and their stance towards summer swim and dive.

My daughter is the coach of an NVSL team. I can tell you with certainty that she and an assistant coach sat at our kitchen table yesterday (wed) at lunch time and made the Saturday meet lineups.

Anonymous wrote:You do realize that NVSL teams are run by the team rep. So basically they make the call on all things. Usually the coach (who is their employee) is in sync with what is decided.

The summer league coach is the employee of the team rep? Is that what you are saying?

You do realize that NVSL teams are run by the team rep. So basically they make the call on all things. Usually the coach (who is their employee) is in sync with what is decided.

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Anonymous wrote:We get the roster on Tuesday afternoon and events on Thursday afternoon. It changes week to week so don’t expect anything until after the meet on Monday.

Then you are not swimming NVSL - NVSL A meets are Saturdays.

Our pool generally announces A meet swimmers on Thursdays.

This…is just wrong and dangerous. NVSL here: We get rosters on Tue/Wed. Events on Thu/Fri. Just depending on coaches/ reps schedule. This is in prep for Saturday’s meet.

Whoever posted this should apologize.

Why? Could you explain? Thanks.

PP was indicating the poster that said "Then you are not swimming NVSL - NVSL A meets are Saturdays" in reference to getting roster on Tuesday and events on Thu as wrong and dangerous. That timeline (in prep for Sat meets) seems pretty standard.

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Anonymous wrote:We get the roster on Tuesday afternoon and events on Thursday afternoon. It changes week to week so don’t expect anything until after the meet on Monday.

Then you are not swimming NVSL - NVSL A meets are Saturdays.

Our pool generally announces A meet swimmers on Thursdays.

This…is just wrong and dangerous. NVSL here: We get rosters on Tue/Wed. Events on Thu/Fri. Just depending on coaches/ reps schedule. This is in prep for Saturday’s meet.

Whoever posted this should apologize.

Why? Could you explain? Thanks.

We usually send out the entry list on Thursday night after the data exchange. I’m our team’s data coordinator and I’ve been checking to see if our coach has started working on entries and so far he hasn’t (as of Wednesday late afternoon).

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Anonymous wrote:We get the roster on Tuesday afternoon and events on Thursday afternoon. It changes week to week so don’t expect anything until after the meet on Monday.

Then you are not swimming NVSL - NVSL A meets are Saturdays.

Our pool generally announces A meet swimmers on Thursdays.

This…is just wrong and dangerous. NVSL here: We get rosters on Tue/Wed. Events on Thu/Fri. Just depending on coaches/ reps schedule. This is in prep for Saturday’s meet.

Whoever posted this should apologize.

It’s not even slightly dangerous to announce on Friday.

But I don’t understand why they would announce rosters a day or two before events. To know the rosters they need to know which kids are in which events. So why not give all that info at the same time?

I also do not get why/how this could be "dangerous." Our team typically announces rosters on Thursday and specific events on Friday. The coaches tell the kids the events personally at the end of Friday AM practice. But the rosters are sent on Thursday to help parents with planning.

I had always thought that this was a pretty common approach.

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Anonymous wrote:We get the roster on Tuesday afternoon and events on Thursday afternoon. It changes week to week so don’t expect anything until after the meet on Monday.

Then you are not swimming NVSL - NVSL A meets are Saturdays.

Our pool generally announces A meet swimmers on Thursdays.

This…is just wrong and dangerous. NVSL here: We get rosters on Tue/Wed. Events on Thu/Fri. Just depending on coaches/ reps schedule. This is in prep for Saturday’s meet.

Whoever posted this should apologize.

It’s not even slightly dangerous to announce on Friday.

But I don’t understand why they would announce rosters a day or two before events. To know the rosters they need to know which kids are in which events. So why not give all that info at the same time?