Anonymous wrote:Do you mean Wall Street and IB type jobs? If so, this analysis may be helpful:
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking/
The site includes all the Ivies along with NESCACs Amherst, Williams, Middlebury, Hamilton and Bowdoin. I'm not sure about the athletic component of this though.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you mean Wall Street and IB type jobs? If so, this analysis may be helpful:
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking/
The site includes all the Ivies along with NESCACs Amherst, Williams, Middlebury, Hamilton and Bowdoin. I'm not sure about the athletic component of this though.
That list is of limited use. Because there is a bias for bigger schools. And it doesn't differentiate the types of jobs. Baruch is high up the list and they do get jobs at banks. But there is a difference between a glorified bank teller and M&A at Goldman. Note that there are kids from Baruch who do end up in pretty high level jobs. But most are mid-office. And there is no shame in that. But it isn't what Harvard alums are gunning for.
If you think that the ‘Middlebury Mafia’ isn’t real you’re clueless. Williams, Amherst, and CMC also outperform half of the Ivies without breaking a sweat.
Lighten up, Francis. When did I say any of those things? Your reading comprehension skills stink. If anything, I was saying that small schools like those are largely under-ranked because they have fewer students, which should not be a penalizing factor.
I wrote incredibly purposefully and clearly. People are looking for reasons to get angry and just end up showcasing their stupidity. No job on Wall Street for you or your children (except in the mailroom or the cafeteria).
If you think that the kids from Williams, Midd, Amherst, and Bow are heading to mid-office jobs you are even dumber than your previous post.
You’re right, no IB for me. I’ve had a successful exit, spent time in PE and now do a bit of EIR work to keep busy. Mostly done by 50 with wealth that you will never approach. It’s a nice life.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes if Williams. Not sure about others.
are Williams outcomes really ivy-comparable for athletes when you drift away from the bro / brah football and lax kids?
No they aren’t and they have a ton of athletes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you mean Wall Street and IB type jobs? If so, this analysis may be helpful:
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking/
The site includes all the Ivies along with NESCACs Amherst, Williams, Middlebury, Hamilton and Bowdoin. I'm not sure about the athletic component of this though.
That list is of limited use. Because there is a bias for bigger schools. And it doesn't differentiate the types of jobs. Baruch is high up the list and they do get jobs at banks. But there is a difference between a glorified bank teller and M&A at Goldman. Note that there are kids from Baruch who do end up in pretty high level jobs. But most are mid-office. And there is no shame in that. But it isn't what Harvard alums are gunning for.
The analysis adjusts for enrollment in the second table.
That table, especially with DCUM whipping boy Columbia at the top, causes a lot of cognitive dissonance.
Anonymous wrote:No. The Lax pipeline works because there are lax players in key roles at banks and they preferentially hire the next generation of lax bros who reach out to them from their alma mater.
It's not some sort of magic with HR or based on college name alone. It's 1:1 networking, bro-to-bro among students with high bro EQ who know how to interact with this type of guy. It doesn't work if you're a cross country geek and are trying to flash your college name alone.
(No offense to cross country geeks--this describes my kid).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you mean Wall Street and IB type jobs? If so, this analysis may be helpful:
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking/
The site includes all the Ivies along with NESCACs Amherst, Williams, Middlebury, Hamilton and Bowdoin. I'm not sure about the athletic component of this though.
That list is of limited use. Because there is a bias for bigger schools. And it doesn't differentiate the types of jobs. Baruch is high up the list and they do get jobs at banks. But there is a difference between a glorified bank teller and M&A at Goldman. Note that there are kids from Baruch who do end up in pretty high level jobs. But most are mid-office. And there is no shame in that. But it isn't what Harvard alums are gunning for.
Precisely. Ivy kids want the top, and often have a better shot at getting it. Athletics does not play into the TOP roles they seek
That's wrong. Do you guys just make stuff up? I would say that more than 50% of the people I've interacted with at Goldman (as a client) were college athletes. This is just either cope, mendacity, or ignorance.
https://www.aol.com/articles/athletes-key-hiring-pool-goldman-090102072.html
https://fortune.com/2026/02/22/meet-retired-olympic-champions-second-careers-goldman-sachs-no-financial-expertise-office-experience/
I mean 80% of their recent CEOs were proud college athletes.
"It is a way to differentiate yourself," Jacqueline Arthur, Goldman's head of human capital management, previously told Business Insider about why athletes are compelling applicants. "These qualities are not just transferable but powerful and directly applicable to the dynamic environment of financial services."
And, it isn't just Goldman. Finance is filled to the gills with athletes from top schools. It is a well known thing in finance.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/data-backed-advantage-hiring-student-athletes-don-philabaum-oehrc
“Athletes understand what it means to be part of a team. They are disciplined, competitive, and they know how to handle pressure. Those are the people you want in your organization. " --Jamie Dimon
So, if you had any industry experience, you would know this is a phenomenon.
Anonymous wrote:Williams has a big nepo network beyond sports. If your girlfriend or roommate's dad is big guy at blackstone, it doesn't matter if you can play lacrosse.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you mean Wall Street and IB type jobs? If so, this analysis may be helpful:
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking/
The site includes all the Ivies along with NESCACs Amherst, Williams, Middlebury, Hamilton and Bowdoin. I'm not sure about the athletic component of this though.
That list is of limited use. Because there is a bias for bigger schools. And it doesn't differentiate the types of jobs. Baruch is high up the list and they do get jobs at banks. But there is a difference between a glorified bank teller and M&A at Goldman. Note that there are kids from Baruch who do end up in pretty high level jobs. But most are mid-office. And there is no shame in that. But it isn't what Harvard alums are gunning for.
Precisely. Ivy kids want the top, and often have a better shot at getting it. Athletics does not play into the TOP roles they seek
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you mean Wall Street and IB type jobs? If so, this analysis may be helpful:
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking/
The site includes all the Ivies along with NESCACs Amherst, Williams, Middlebury, Hamilton and Bowdoin. I'm not sure about the athletic component of this though.
That list is of limited use. Because there is a bias for bigger schools. And it doesn't differentiate the types of jobs. Baruch is high up the list and they do get jobs at banks. But there is a difference between a glorified bank teller and M&A at Goldman. Note that there are kids from Baruch who do end up in pretty high level jobs. But most are mid-office. And there is no shame in that. But it isn't what Harvard alums are gunning for.
If you think that the ‘Middlebury Mafia’ isn’t real you’re clueless. Williams, Amherst, and CMC also outperform half of the Ivies without breaking a sweat.
Lighten up, Francis. When did I say any of those things? Your reading comprehension skills stink. If anything, I was saying that small schools like those are largely under-ranked because they have fewer students, which should not be a penalizing factor.
I wrote incredibly purposefully and clearly. People are looking for reasons to get angry and just end up showcasing their stupidity. No job on Wall Street for you or your children (except in the mailroom or the cafeteria).
Anonymous wrote:Williams has a big nepo network beyond sports. If your girlfriend or roommate's dad is big guy at blackstone, it doesn't matter if you can play lacrosse.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you mean Wall Street and IB type jobs? If so, this analysis may be helpful:
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking/
The site includes all the Ivies along with NESCACs Amherst, Williams, Middlebury, Hamilton and Bowdoin. I'm not sure about the athletic component of this though.
That list is of limited use. Because there is a bias for bigger schools. And it doesn't differentiate the types of jobs. Baruch is high up the list and they do get jobs at banks. But there is a difference between a glorified bank teller and M&A at Goldman. Note that there are kids from Baruch who do end up in pretty high level jobs. But most are mid-office. And there is no shame in that. But it isn't what Harvard alums are gunning for.
If you think that the ‘Middlebury Mafia’ isn’t real you’re clueless. Williams, Amherst, and CMC also outperform half of the Ivies without breaking a sweat.
Anonymous wrote:Yes if Williams. Not sure about others.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you mean Wall Street and IB type jobs? If so, this analysis may be helpful:
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking/
The site includes all the Ivies along with NESCACs Amherst, Williams, Middlebury, Hamilton and Bowdoin. I'm not sure about the athletic component of this though.
That list is of limited use. Because there is a bias for bigger schools. And it doesn't differentiate the types of jobs. Baruch is high up the list and they do get jobs at banks. But there is a difference between a glorified bank teller and M&A at Goldman. Note that there are kids from Baruch who do end up in pretty high level jobs. But most are mid-office. And there is no shame in that. But it isn't what Harvard alums are gunning for.
Anonymous wrote:Do you mean Wall Street and IB type jobs? If so, this analysis may be helpful:
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking/
The site includes all the Ivies along with NESCACs Amherst, Williams, Middlebury, Hamilton and Bowdoin. I'm not sure about the athletic component of this though.