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Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

How and how many?

Cheating IS rampant there.

It's probably about 45/45 As, Bs and then 10% Cs.

Sorry, I meant how did he take a “ton of classes before ever hitting TJ?”

All kids at TJ have at least A1H, a HS class. A bunch of kids have A1H and Geometry. Probably 1/3, maybe only 1/4, have A2H.

I would guess a decent number of kids at TJ have at least 1 year of a foreign language, a good number will have 2 years.

My kid is a rising 9th grader with A1H, Geometry, and 2 years of foreign lnaguage so 4 HS classes. He earned A's in all four classes.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

That's just what is reported to me by my kid.

That said, I've had detailed discussions about performance at TJ. The C he got - his math teacher said he understood the material perfectly but he needed to be about 3x faster completing the questions. So it wasn't about knowledge, it was about speed. It's completing complex math in equations in less than 2 minutes each.

Imagine being totally competent but that's not the goal.

That is a BS story your child fed you.

There are levels of understanding and also there is mastery you gain from practice. Someone who practiced such as by doing all the assigned homework, and many kids dont, can complete the tests on time.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

That's just what is reported to me by my kid.

That said, I've had detailed discussions about performance at TJ. The C he got - his math teacher said he understood the material perfectly but he needed to be about 3x faster completing the questions. So it wasn't about knowledge, it was about speed. It's completing complex math in equations in less than 2 minutes each.

Imagine being totally competent but that's not the goal.

That is a BS story your child fed you.

There are levels of understanding and also there is mastery you gain from practice. Someone who practiced such as by doing all the assigned homework, and many kids dont, can complete the tests on time.

You're not understanding. This is the conversation I had with the teacher not my child.

Not PP, but understanding and speed are separate skills needed to get an A. If you think only understanding is enough, wait until you get to college courses.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

That's just what is reported to me by my kid.

That said, I've had detailed discussions about performance at TJ. The C he got - his math teacher said he understood the material perfectly but he needed to be about 3x faster completing the questions. So it wasn't about knowledge, it was about speed. It's completing complex math in equations in less than 2 minutes each.

Imagine being totally competent but that's not the goal.

That is a BS story your child fed you.

There are levels of understanding and also there is mastery you gain from practice. Someone who practiced such as by doing all the assigned homework, and many kids dont, can complete the tests on time.

You're not understanding. This is the conversation I had with the teacher not my child.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

That's just what is reported to me by my kid.

That said, I've had detailed discussions about performance at TJ. The C he got - his math teacher said he understood the material perfectly but he needed to be about 3x faster completing the questions. So it wasn't about knowledge, it was about speed. It's completing complex math in equations in less than 2 minutes each.

Imagine being totally competent but that's not the goal.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

How and how many?

Cheating IS rampant there.

It's probably about 45/45 As, Bs and then 10% Cs.

Sorry, I meant how did he take a “ton of classes before ever hitting TJ?”

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Anonymous wrote:What’s top 10 percent gpa end of freshman year ( weighted and unweighted? ?

What is the significance of top 10% at TJ compared to bases? Some say top 15% or even 20% will put you on par with top 5% at a base, true?

No one says this. Your ranking is school-related only just like your rigor is school-related and often the standardized testing is. A kid who attends a school where a 1300 sat is almost unheard of (as being very high) looks great. A major reason Dartmouth went test required was bc it found some underrepresented students weren’t submitting lower scores for fear of rejection even though those scores would have helped them. So a kid at TJ with a 1590 isn’t trumping that kid in testing. Each is compared to his own school.

So it's no point to go to TJ unless you're after the "TJ experience"

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Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

That's just what is reported to me by my kid.

That said, I've had detailed discussions about performance at TJ. The C he got - his math teacher said he understood the material perfectly but he needed to be about 3x faster completing the questions. So it wasn't about knowledge, it was about speed. It's completing complex math in equations in less than 2 minutes each.

Imagine being totally competent but that's not the goal.

That is a BS story your child fed you.

There are levels of understanding and also there is mastery you gain from practice. Someone who practiced such as by doing all the assigned homework, and many kids dont, can complete the tests on time.

You're not understanding. This is the conversation I had with the teacher not my child.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

How and how many?

Cheating IS rampant there.

It's probably about 45/45 As, Bs and then 10% Cs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

That's just what is reported to me by my kid.

That said, I've had detailed discussions about performance at TJ. The C he got - his math teacher said he understood the material perfectly but he needed to be about 3x faster completing the questions. So it wasn't about knowledge, it was about speed. It's completing complex math in equations in less than 2 minutes each.

Imagine being totally competent but that's not the goal.

That is a BS story your child fed you.

There are levels of understanding and also there is mastery you gain from practice. Someone who practiced such as by doing all the assigned homework, and many kids dont, can complete the tests on time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

That's just what is reported to me by my kid.

That said, I've had detailed discussions about performance at TJ. The C he got - his math teacher said he understood the material perfectly but he needed to be about 3x faster completing the questions. So it wasn't about knowledge, it was about speed. It's completing complex math in equations in less than 2 minutes each.

Imagine being totally competent but that's not the goal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

How and how many?

Cheating IS rampant there.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid had some Bs and C and his overall GPA was higher than 4.2 after freshman year...he did a ton of classes before ever hitting TJ, though.

You have to get used to the lower grades. Lots of classes at TJ aren't there for you to succeed. They want you to take the B or lower or learn how to cheat to get an A (sadly)

You seem to have developed quite a coping mechanism. My child got poor grades because he/she did not cheat!! LOL

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s top 10 percent gpa end of freshman year ( weighted and unweighted? ?

What is the significance of top 10% at TJ compared to bases? Some say top 15% or even 20% will put you on par with top 5% at a base, true?

No one says this. Your ranking is school-related only just like your rigor is school-related and often the standardized testing is. A kid who attends a school where a 1300 sat is almost unheard of (as being very high) looks great. A major reason Dartmouth went test required was bc it found some underrepresented students weren’t submitting lower scores for fear of rejection even though those scores would have helped them. So a kid at TJ with a 1590 isn’t trumping that kid in testing. Each is compared to his own school.