Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o
The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.
Right so like I said all non-white people are an aggregate for the far-right. A Sudanese asylum refugee should be counted alongside a British Sikh non-immigrant.
When POC commit crimes its always tribal. They, them is the issue and there is seemingly no issue with using pronouns when denouncing them (he). When non-POC commit crimes its always bad egg, bad apple, troubled, MH issues, etc.
And I am sure Ill get the "its not about color/race" responses but apparently it is.
Yes, the far right does that. However, the far left has blinders the other way.
You should know that the Sikh guy has almost universally been described as a bad egg, bad apple, troubled etc and the outrage has been focused on the police treating his family's lies as truths which led to them treating the dying victim as the perpetrator. The racist aspect of the stabbing itself has been downplayed.
Life does not fit into our neat assumptions.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o
The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.
Right so like I said all non-white people are an aggregate for the far-right. A Sudanese asylum refugee should be counted alongside a British Sikh non-immigrant.
When POC commit crimes its always tribal. They, them is the issue and there is seemingly no issue with using pronouns when denouncing them (he). When non-POC commit crimes its always bad egg, bad apple, troubled, MH issues, etc.
And I am sure Ill get the "its not about color/race" responses but apparently it is.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??
Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.
POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.
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They have a low IQ white supremacy problem there too.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??
Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.
POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.
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Stabbing?? The victim was nearly beheaded. This was not X or bots.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??
Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.
POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.
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Stabbing?? The victim was nearly beheaded. This was not X or bots.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are the circumstances of this Sudanese man being in Northern Ireland?
This is what presumably prompted the outrage: locals are fed up with the back door immigration that allows people to enter and easily seek asylum through a seemingly unguarded, porous border (at least that’s what two articles I read earlier today pointed to).
Everyone has a tipping point when it comes to immigration (ahem…look at the US). And incidents of violent crime often prompt attention, and sometimes prompt a strong reaction.
I think the pp who racialized this really missed the point. Aggressively protesting (like this) is directly attributable to pent up frustration. I mean, look at the post-George Floyd riots/protests.
If you don’t want such an unnecessary, dangerous reaction then the government needs to do a better job of taking the temperature of voters and anticipating where the tipping point is.
Its porous because of the situation with the UK. Something they have no problem with if you are a white person. And again the rates of violence by immigrants is less than the native born population. We are talking about Northern Ireland here!
I am going to ignore your comparison to George Floyd riots.
Yes, I believe everyone understands the UK’s role here. Full disclosure: one of the articles I read this morning was from the UK, and they are well aware of their role.
Nobody said the violent protests were legit or necessary, and nobody said migrants are more violent than locals. But perception is reality and this sort of strong reaction most certainly stems from a collective tipping point rather than singular outrage to the actual incident.
The analogy to the George Floyd riots was aimed at underscoring how a collective reaction tends to occur when the masses reach a breaking point. Whether or not you accept the fact that any group can reach a breaking point…or whether you simply feel entitled to judge one protest worthy over another…the reality is rather obvious.
Are you saying that an inicident of n=1 per year is the breaking point for the people of Northern Ireland?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??
Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.
POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o
The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.
Right so like I said all non-white people are an aggregate for the far-right. A Sudanese asylum refugee should be counted alongside a British Sikh non-immigrant.
When POC commit crimes its always tribal. They, them is the issue and there is seemingly no issue with using pronouns when denouncing them (he). When non-POC commit crimes its always bad egg, bad apple, troubled, MH issues, etc.
And I am sure Ill get the "its not about color/race" responses but apparently it is.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??
Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.
POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.
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Well, the Sudanese asylum seeker nearly beheaded the victim and gouged out his eyes. Not exactly the same as barroom brawl.
Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o
The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.
Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o
The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are the circumstances of this Sudanese man being in Northern Ireland?
This is what presumably prompted the outrage: locals are fed up with the back door immigration that allows people to enter and easily seek asylum through a seemingly unguarded, porous border (at least that’s what two articles I read earlier today pointed to).
Everyone has a tipping point when it comes to immigration (ahem…look at the US). And incidents of violent crime often prompt attention, and sometimes prompt a strong reaction.
I think the pp who racialized this really missed the point. Aggressively protesting (like this) is directly attributable to pent up frustration. I mean, look at the post-George Floyd riots/protests.
If you don’t want such an unnecessary, dangerous reaction then the government needs to do a better job of taking the temperature of voters and anticipating where the tipping point is.
Its porous because of the situation with the UK. Something they have no problem with if you are a white person. And again the rates of violence by immigrants is less than the native born population. We are talking about Northern Ireland here!
I am going to ignore your comparison to George Floyd riots.
Yes, I believe everyone understands the UK’s role here. Full disclosure: one of the articles I read this morning was from the UK, and they are well aware of their role.
Nobody said the violent protests were legit or necessary, and nobody said migrants are more violent than locals. But perception is reality and this sort of strong reaction most certainly stems from a collective tipping point rather than singular outrage to the actual incident.
The analogy to the George Floyd riots was aimed at underscoring how a collective reaction tends to occur when the masses reach a breaking point. Whether or not you accept the fact that any group can reach a breaking point…or whether you simply feel entitled to judge one protest worthy over another…the reality is rather obvious.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??
Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.
POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.
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What’s your opinion of protests / riots in the US in 2020 regarding police brutality being stoked by Twitter, bots, and foreign governments like China and Russia?