Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 13:48     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

If the far left is so concerned about the far right, why don’t they neuter them by keeping people who don’t belong in these countries out? Most asylum claims are illegitimate. There is no benefit to the UK and its citizens to admit these people anyway. It is entirely a benefit to the alleged asylum seeker.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 13:44     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o

The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.


Right so like I said all non-white people are an aggregate for the far-right. A Sudanese asylum refugee should be counted alongside a British Sikh non-immigrant.

When POC commit crimes its always tribal. They, them is the issue and there is seemingly no issue with using pronouns when denouncing them (he). When non-POC commit crimes its always bad egg, bad apple, troubled, MH issues, etc.

And I am sure Ill get the "its not about color/race" responses but apparently it is.


Yes, the far right does that. However, the far left has blinders the other way.

You should know that the Sikh guy has almost universally been described as a bad egg, bad apple, troubled etc and the outrage has been focused on the police treating his family's lies as truths which led to them treating the dying victim as the perpetrator. The racist aspect of the stabbing itself has been downplayed.

Life does not fit into our neat assumptions.

Correct, by his own family and Sikh community.
However, posters here and other news reports are lumping them together as what has fueled this anti-immigrant protesting. These are seen as cumulative events in the far-right because its (mostly) POC, regardless of immigration status.

This is about the far right scapegoating immigrants and POC.
"Grievances over poor housing conditions and housing shortages, in particular, have been used to scapegoat migrants and to favour a narrative of “mass uncontrolled migration that simply is not factually true”, Holder said.

The CAJ report, he said, found no clear correlation between the areas where violence has flared up in Northern Ireland since 2023 and poverty rates or high immigration rates.

“When you look at the pattern of where attacks are taking place, they’re not in the most deprived areas,” Holder said. “What this points to is that attacks involve particular far-right elements, including some elements of loyalist paramilitary organisations, rather than this being tied to either migration levels or deprivation.”"
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/13/why-have-anti-immigration-riots-broken-out-in-northern-ireland- Yes, from last year but again, multiple articles about this stabbing reference the Sikh stabbing and the attempted sexual assault by Romanian refugees.

The discontent is rationale. No one wants stabbings or rape/assault. But the far right are flaming the fires and turning protests violent just like they did in the US with BBM.

So the answer to the topic question is: Racial and xenophobia by the far right is what the heck is going on in Belfast and its going on here too! See JD Vance about Nowak
"Henry Nowak died the same way a civilisation dies: Abandoned, handcuffed by authorities who neither trusted nor cared for him, and accused of hate crimes he did not commit.
"His murder is as tragic as it is enraging.

"He should still be alive today, and he would be if the last few generations of European elites had stood their ground against the politics of self-hatred and the mass invasion of migrants, many of whom despise the West and the people who love it"

Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 13:35     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o

The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.


Right so like I said all non-white people are an aggregate for the far-right. A Sudanese asylum refugee should be counted alongside a British Sikh non-immigrant.

When POC commit crimes its always tribal. They, them is the issue and there is seemingly no issue with using pronouns when denouncing them (he). When non-POC commit crimes its always bad egg, bad apple, troubled, MH issues, etc.

And I am sure Ill get the "its not about color/race" responses but apparently it is.


Yes, the far right does that. However, the far left has blinders the other way.

You should know that the Sikh guy has almost universally been described as a bad egg, bad apple, troubled etc and the outrage has been focused on the police treating his family's lies as truths which led to them treating the dying victim as the perpetrator. The racist aspect of the stabbing itself has been downplayed.

Life does not fit into our neat assumptions.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 13:34     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??


Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.

POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.



They have a low IQ white supremacy problem there too.


Hey high IQ poster, it’s sarcasm .
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 13:32     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??


Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.

POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.



Stabbing?? The victim was nearly beheaded. This was not X or bots.


He was not. Stop making the injuries sound worse than they were. These were non-fatal injuries.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 13:30     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??


Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.

POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.



Stabbing?? The victim was nearly beheaded. This was not X or bots.


Elon Musk personally tweeted gathering spaces for protests and shared far-right tweets.

"On Tuesday night, houses, cars, and a bus were set on fire in Belfast - in one area, hundreds of masked men shouted "foreigners out", our reporter says"

Why is it foreigners out? Are all foreigners committing crimes or beheadings as you want to use that term repeatedly?
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 13:28     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What are the circumstances of this Sudanese man being in Northern Ireland?



This is what presumably prompted the outrage: locals are fed up with the back door immigration that allows people to enter and easily seek asylum through a seemingly unguarded, porous border (at least that’s what two articles I read earlier today pointed to).

Everyone has a tipping point when it comes to immigration (ahem…look at the US). And incidents of violent crime often prompt attention, and sometimes prompt a strong reaction.

I think the pp who racialized this really missed the point. Aggressively protesting (like this) is directly attributable to pent up frustration. I mean, look at the post-George Floyd riots/protests.

If you don’t want such an unnecessary, dangerous reaction then the government needs to do a better job of taking the temperature of voters and anticipating where the tipping point is.


Its porous because of the situation with the UK. Something they have no problem with if you are a white person. And again the rates of violence by immigrants is less than the native born population. We are talking about Northern Ireland here!

I am going to ignore your comparison to George Floyd riots.


Yes, I believe everyone understands the UK’s role here. Full disclosure: one of the articles I read this morning was from the UK, and they are well aware of their role.

Nobody said the violent protests were legit or necessary, and nobody said migrants are more violent than locals. But perception is reality and this sort of strong reaction most certainly stems from a collective tipping point rather than singular outrage to the actual incident.

The analogy to the George Floyd riots was aimed at underscoring how a collective reaction tends to occur when the masses reach a breaking point. Whether or not you accept the fact that any group can reach a breaking point…or whether you simply feel entitled to judge one protest worthy over another…the reality is rather obvious.



Are you saying that an inicident of n=1 per year is the breaking point for the people of Northern Ireland?


No.

I’m saying immigration has obviously reached a tipping point for the people of Northern Ireland.

BTW that doesn’t mean they are racist necessarily. It just means the influx of newcomers to their admittedly small slice of land has reached a point of discomfort for some (obviously the protests were limited to a select group, so there’s no need to cast aspersions on everyone).

And unusually violent incidents tend to draw attention and prompt a reaction regardless of race/ethnicity. That’s just human nature. But as a dispassionate observer with no ties to the area, it’s obvious that local leaders should spend some time thinking about the impact of immigration on local voters. Such outbursts tend to point to bigger issues.

Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 13:25     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??


Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.

POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.



Stabbing?? The victim was nearly beheaded. This was not X or bots.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 13:12     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o

The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.


Right so like I said all non-white people are an aggregate for the far-right. A Sudanese asylum refugee should be counted alongside a British Sikh non-immigrant.

When POC commit crimes its always tribal. They, them is the issue and there is seemingly no issue with using pronouns when denouncing them (he). When non-POC commit crimes its always bad egg, bad apple, troubled, MH issues, etc.

And I am sure Ill get the "its not about color/race" responses but apparently it is.


I think the issue is more so the police response. The brits protesting are talking about a two tier system. They had violents protests over this not long ago.

https://time.com/article/2026/06/03/uk-violent-protests-student-murder-police-response-sikh-community-fearful/

I'd imagine the next rounds of British elections will see move movement on this issue.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 13:08     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??


Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.

POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.



Well, the Sudanese asylum seeker nearly beheaded the victim and gouged out his eyes. Not exactly the same as barroom brawl.


The victim sustained serious injury to one eye and his back, so you seem misinformed. His family is appalled by the rioting and violence and is calling for street terrorists to disperse and stop terrorizing people of color in their son’s name.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 13:06     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o

The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.


Right so like I said all non-white people are an aggregate for the far-right. A Sudanese asylum refugee should be counted alongside a British Sikh non-immigrant.

When POC commit crimes its always tribal. They, them is the issue and there is seemingly no issue with using pronouns when denouncing them (he). When non-POC commit crimes its always bad egg, bad apple, troubled, MH issues, etc.

And I am sure Ill get the "its not about color/race" responses but apparently it is.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 13:03     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

Anonymous wrote:The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o

The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.


The murderer falsely claimed racism and his family covered up the crime. It was an ugly and horrific incident in which the outrage is justified but also being fanned by anti-immigrationists.

Ironically the Sikh murderer was born in the UK and the Polish victim was an immigrant.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 12:55     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

The video off murder of an english student recently didn't help. He was handcuffed while bleeding out while the police officers denied he was stabbed by an ethnic minority. The police were called because said person claimed they were verbally abused.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlpyw05l75o

The government is trying to clamp down on these videos due to racial tensions.
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 12:27     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What are the circumstances of this Sudanese man being in Northern Ireland?



This is what presumably prompted the outrage: locals are fed up with the back door immigration that allows people to enter and easily seek asylum through a seemingly unguarded, porous border (at least that’s what two articles I read earlier today pointed to).

Everyone has a tipping point when it comes to immigration (ahem…look at the US). And incidents of violent crime often prompt attention, and sometimes prompt a strong reaction.

I think the pp who racialized this really missed the point. Aggressively protesting (like this) is directly attributable to pent up frustration. I mean, look at the post-George Floyd riots/protests.

If you don’t want such an unnecessary, dangerous reaction then the government needs to do a better job of taking the temperature of voters and anticipating where the tipping point is.


Its porous because of the situation with the UK. Something they have no problem with if you are a white person. And again the rates of violence by immigrants is less than the native born population. We are talking about Northern Ireland here!

I am going to ignore your comparison to George Floyd riots.


Yes, I believe everyone understands the UK’s role here. Full disclosure: one of the articles I read this morning was from the UK, and they are well aware of their role.

Nobody said the violent protests were legit or necessary, and nobody said migrants are more violent than locals. But perception is reality and this sort of strong reaction most certainly stems from a collective tipping point rather than singular outrage to the actual incident.

The analogy to the George Floyd riots was aimed at underscoring how a collective reaction tends to occur when the masses reach a breaking point. Whether or not you accept the fact that any group can reach a breaking point…or whether you simply feel entitled to judge one protest worthy over another…the reality is rather obvious.



Are you saying that an inicident of n=1 per year is the breaking point for the people of Northern Ireland?
Anonymous
Post 06/10/2026 12:24     Subject: What the heck is going on in Belfast?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The images emerging are really quite disturbing. Is this situation going to spread to nearby locations? Anyone have friends / family there for context??


Seems like another incident of far-right anti-immigration tactics stoked by Musk/X and bots.

POV: A Sudanese man is appropriately charged and detained after stabbing another man. No other details are given. Out come the anti-immigrants because how dare an immigrant harm one of us...only WE WHITE MEN are allowed to do the harming.



What’s your opinion of protests / riots in the US in 2020 regarding police brutality being stoked by Twitter, bots, and foreign governments like China and Russia?


Social media and bots are a scourge. So is the relentless killing of unarmed Black men and women. Violent protests have no place and Ill remind you that our own government stated that many of the violent protests had far-right agitators flaming the violence.

[url]https://www.counterterrorismgroup.com/post/threat-pattern-analysis-assessing-risks-of-protest-infiltrations[google]
[/url]https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110775/documents/HHRG-116-JU00-20200610-SD019.pdf[url]

The common thread I can find is the far-right.