Anonymous wrote:It used to be common in both parties for the people (and their families) who ascended to the top of the party had to be upstanding people. I didn't think W was a good president at all, but I think he was probably a good dad, and that he chose a thoughtful and nurturing mother for his kids in Laura, and their family does a good job of nurturing kids to reach their potential.
Again, this used to be common on both sides of the aisle. I have never voted for a Republican for president but I think Mitt Romney, John McCain, George W. Bush, Bob Dole and George HW Bush are all decent human beings. Bad politics, good people. It happens. And then I also believe Jimmy Carter, Michael Dukakis, Al Gore, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton are also all good people.
Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan were not particularly moral people but they at least felt compelled to try and convince people they were, which likely led them to behave more ethically overall than they would have without that constraint.
Donald Trump is an openly bad person who is proud of his lack of ethics and morality. He gets excited when he does something clearly immoral and people fall all over themselves trying to justify it or explain it -- it's evidence of his power that he can twist people into these knots. And once he opened that door, it's hard to shut. Biden was once a pretty upstanding person -- flawed but basically a decent person. But he did some deeply unethical things during his presidency, and justified them because of Trump. Now I look at the Maine Senate race and find myself hoping a dirtbag with a Nazi tattoo successfully gets a Senate seat, because he's running against an otherwise nice lady who simply can't stand up to Trump.
Everything is broken. I don't know how we find our way back from this wilderness.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is just a normal person with a pretty normal (for UMC Texas) background aside from her dad and gdad being president. Pretty similar to many other UT sorority girls I know but even more down to earth.
She gives strong Elle Woods vibes. I know I'm supposed to hate her, but she's delightful.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is just a normal person with a pretty normal (for UMC Texas) background aside from her dad and gdad being president. Pretty similar to many other UT sorority girls I know but even more down to earth.
She gives strong Elle Woods vibes. I know I'm supposed to hate her, but she's delightful.
This is so off-base. You are not supposed to hate the Bush girls anymore than anyone is supposed to hate the Obama girls or Chelsey Clinton. Children who do not participate in their parents’ presidential administration should not be judged by it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is just a normal person with a pretty normal (for UMC Texas) background aside from her dad and gdad being president. Pretty similar to many other UT sorority girls I know but even more down to earth.
Pretty sure that the Bushes are past UMC at this point.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You sound so surprised. That's literally no different than offering surprise that Barack Obama is so clean and articulate.
wut?
And yet the PP hit the nail on the head. You were clearly politicizing the situation.
Anonymous wrote:Just ignore GW's DUI.Anonymous wrote:The Bushes are nice people. They were raised with standards and manners. I’ve met some of them, and they were exactly what they seemed to be - Old Blue WASP types (W hammed up the Texas stuff) who were “comfortable” and along the way were taught you should serve and give something back. They got lucky that grandma Barbara was the no-nonsense type who was not going to let her kids get away with bad behaviors. Today, this all seems another time, another place.
Anonymous wrote:She is just a normal person with a pretty normal (for UMC Texas) background aside from her dad and gdad being president. Pretty similar to many other UT sorority girls I know but even more down to earth.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She is just a normal person with a pretty normal (for UMC Texas) background aside from her dad and gdad being president. Pretty similar to many other UT sorority girls I know but even more down to earth.
She gives strong Elle Woods vibes. I know I'm supposed to hate her, but she's delightful.
Anonymous wrote:W and Laura were decent humans all along. Not very bright but decent people. W especially was a naive simpleton in the WH which suited Dick and the neocons just fine.
Anonymous wrote:It used to be common in both parties for the people (and their families) who ascended to the top of the party had to be upstanding people. I didn't think W was a good president at all, but I think he was probably a good dad, and that he chose a thoughtful and nurturing mother for his kids in Laura, and their family does a good job of nurturing kids to reach their potential.
Again, this used to be common on both sides of the aisle. I have never voted for a Republican for president but I think Mitt Romney, John McCain, George W. Bush, Bob Dole and George HW Bush are all decent human beings. Bad politics, good people. It happens. And then I also believe Jimmy Carter, Michael Dukakis, Al Gore, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton are also all good people.
Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan were not particularly moral people but they at least felt compelled to try and convince people they were, which likely led them to behave more ethically overall than they would have without that constraint.
Donald Trump is an openly bad person who is proud of his lack of ethics and morality. He gets excited when he does something clearly immoral and people fall all over themselves trying to justify it or explain it -- it's evidence of his power that he can twist people into these knots. And once he opened that door, it's hard to shut. Biden was once a pretty upstanding person -- flawed but basically a decent person. But he did some deeply unethical things during his presidency, and justified them because of Trump. Now I look at the Maine Senate race and find myself hoping a dirtbag with a Nazi tattoo successfully gets a Senate seat, because he's running against an otherwise nice lady who simply can't stand up to Trump.
Everything is broken. I don't know how we find our way back from this wilderness.
Anonymous wrote:Just ignore GW's DUI.Anonymous wrote:The Bushes are nice people. They were raised with standards and manners. I’ve met some of them, and they were exactly what they seemed to be - Old Blue WASP types (W hammed up the Texas stuff) who were “comfortable” and along the way were taught you should serve and give something back. They got lucky that grandma Barbara was the no-nonsense type who was not going to let her kids get away with bad behaviors. Today, this all seems another time, another place.