Op with an update of sorts.

Had the requested ‘quick’ call 4 with recruiter, although I put it off for a few days. First…. Recruiter was 30 mn late calling me - things happen but what was odd was that there was no comment about it, and recruiter scheduled the time. Recruiter then asked me a question about my experience, allegedly from the company that was odd, something about ‘buying’ not only my professional experience but my knowledge of how my current company does XYZ. An unusual question, and I somewhat demurred. Then recruiter proceeded to ask me the same question he asked last week, and then told the same story he’s previously told me about another candidate whose answer he didn’t like.

So odd. Either the company is toxic or the recruiter is, or both.

Anonymous wrote:If it's not a scam, it's a toxic company.

Totally. Something is very off.

The fact that they don't have someone in house to take over for the person they want to fire, even in a temp acting capacity is a major red flag.
I'm sure, you're awesome, but you are not an expert in their company.if some rando from outside, rven someone great, can come in and immediately be productive on whatever critical operations need immediate takeover and can't wait, why ian't anyone in the house competent to help out during the replacement search?

If it's not a scam, it's a toxic company.

^ oh and pp, it’s not an executive role. Please tell me what recruiting you have done for a mid level job where you’ve had 4 calls with a candidate before even passing their resume forward or telling the candidate what they need to adjust on their CV that doesn’t work for the client.

Anonymous wrote:Good grief, you sound like a high maintenance candidate. I was a recruiter (not legal) for many years. Confidential placements for roles in which someone is getting fired are delicate. Asking you for a call is not something to be suspicious of. As someone said above, it is just easier to talk to someone than type out questions. Jeesh, if you were my potential candidate, I would probably drop you because you sound exhausting. Three recruiter calls for an executive level role is nothing, expecially if the client is expecting a dossier on the candidates (more than a resume). I had a client that required extensive write ups for all candidates presented which required me to actually talk to the candidate.

Op here. You’re nasty but also wrong. I noticed you skimmed past the scenario I mentioned which does happen.

Unfortunately there are a lot of scammers among recruiters. It took me awhile to remember, but I’ve had a similar scam happen to my co. Recruiter we have worked with in the past sees we have a new job post and then reaches out to people ‘I work with Co A and they’re looking for someone for Job B’. But we did not engage the recruiter for this search. I only found out bc they somehow got a phone number for and texted a colleague/friend of mine. And before you say ‘they worked to find this person and deserve a fee!’, the colleague they reached out to was literally a former employee at my company. Pretty sure we could have found her on our own.

In my case, in addition to this vague thing about the company, the job spec I saw was uniquely thin, no comp attached to it in writing (illegal where I live), and then of course repeated refusal to identity anything specific to my resume that is a concern and just wanting ‘to chat’.

Good grief, you sound like a high maintenance candidate. I was a recruiter (not legal) for many years. Confidential placements for roles in which someone is getting fired are delicate. Asking you for a call is not something to be suspicious of. As someone said above, it is just easier to talk to someone than type out questions. Jeesh, if you were my potential candidate, I would probably drop you because you sound exhausting. Three recruiter calls for an executive level role is nothing, expecially if the client is expecting a dossier on the candidates (more than a resume). I had a client that required extensive write ups for all candidates presented which required me to actually talk to the candidate.

Anonymous wrote:Why not just have a call if you are interested in the role? It may go nowhere but what's the harm except 20-30 minutes? He may be more willing to fill in the blanks orally.

I’ve already had multiple calls, that’s why.