Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We've all heard this phrase, but I don't know why it's a think among (some) Jewish people, but not other religious groups. Obviously all other religious groups have internal difference of opinions, or people who try to silence other voices. The same exact sentiments behind the term can certainly exist in all religions/cultures. All religious groups have internal conflict and disagreement. But they don't use this kind of in-group terminology. Where did the term "self hating Jew" come from, or originate?
There is a lot of guilt in Judaism. It's holiest day is Yom Kippur a day of atonement.
In Christianity our holiest day is Easter Sunday, the resurrection of Christ who died for our sins.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We've all heard this phrase, but I don't know why it's a think among (some) Jewish people, but not other religious groups. Obviously all other religious groups have internal difference of opinions, or people who try to silence other voices. The same exact sentiments behind the term can certainly exist in all religions/cultures. All religious groups have internal conflict and disagreement. But they don't use this kind of in-group terminology. Where did the term "self hating Jew" come from, or originate?
There is a lot of guilt in Judaism. It's holiest day is Yom Kippur a day of atonement.
In Christianity our holiest day is Easter Sunday, the resurrection of Christ who died for our sins.
Babies are born with sin aren't they. Go to confession?? ETC
There is no more "guilt" in Judaism than there is in Catholicism
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We've all heard this phrase, but I don't know why it's a think among (some) Jewish people, but not other religious groups. Obviously all other religious groups have internal difference of opinions, or people who try to silence other voices. The same exact sentiments behind the term can certainly exist in all religions/cultures. All religious groups have internal conflict and disagreement. But they don't use this kind of in-group terminology. Where did the term "self hating Jew" come from, or originate?
There is a lot of guilt in Judaism. It's holiest day is Yom Kippur a day of atonement.
In Christianity our holiest day is Easter Sunday, the resurrection of Christ who died for our sins.
Anonymous wrote:I am not Jewish, but the framing here is still pretty transparent to me. You are presenting this as a neutral question about terminology, but it reads more like a clever way to criticize Jewish people, particularly Zionist Jews, for how they debate disagreement within their own community.
If the question is genuinely about the origin of the phrase “self-hating Jew,” then ask that directly. But comparing Jewish internal language to other religious groups in this way makes the point seem less like curiosity and more like commentary dressed up as curiosity.
Your cleverness is evident. The underlying criticism is not hard to see. And as someone outside the Jewish community myself, I would be careful about positioning myself as the person who gets to diagnose how Jews should talk about Jewish identity, Jewish disagreement, or Jewish politics.
Anonymous wrote:We've all heard this phrase, but I don't know why it's a think among (some) Jewish people, but not other religious groups. Obviously all other religious groups have internal difference of opinions, or people who try to silence other voices. The same exact sentiments behind the term can certainly exist in all religions/cultures. All religious groups have internal conflict and disagreement. But they don't use this kind of in-group terminology. Where did the term "self hating Jew" come from, or originate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We've all heard this phrase, but I don't know why it's a think among (some) Jewish people, but not other religious groups. Obviously all other religious groups have internal difference of opinions, or people who try to silence other voices. The same exact sentiments behind the term can certainly exist in all religions/cultures. All religious groups have internal conflict and disagreement. But they don't use this kind of in-group terminology. Where did the term "self hating Jew" come from, or originate?
I guess it’s for Jews who don’t agree with what Jews do to others in name of religion and defense. They feel guilty by association but find no open exits to disassociate themselves? Every religion has this struggle. Moderate or liberal Muslims don’t want to associate with extremists and their actions even if in retaliation of occupation and apartheid but they are all lumped in together.
That is not at all where the tterm came from.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We've all heard this phrase, but I don't know why it's a think among (some) Jewish people, but not other religious groups. Obviously all other religious groups have internal difference of opinions, or people who try to silence other voices. The same exact sentiments behind the term can certainly exist in all religions/cultures. All religious groups have internal conflict and disagreement. But they don't use this kind of in-group terminology. Where did the term "self hating Jew" come from, or originate?
I guess it’s for Jews who don’t agree with what Jews do to others in name of religion and defense. They feel guilty by association but find no open exits to disassociate themselves? Every religion has this struggle. Moderate or liberal Muslims don’t want to associate with extremists and their actions even if in retaliation of occupation and apartheid but they are all lumped in together.
Anonymous wrote:There are “self-hating Indians”.
Anonymous wrote:We've all heard this phrase, but I don't know why it's a think among (some) Jewish people, but not other religious groups. Obviously all other religious groups have internal difference of opinions, or people who try to silence other voices. The same exact sentiments behind the term can certainly exist in all religions/cultures. All religious groups have internal conflict and disagreement. But they don't use this kind of in-group terminology. Where did the term "self hating Jew" come from, or originate?