Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most people are thinking about their experiences studying English in college 20-30 years ago, which is when parents of current students were in college. It's not the same world. It's not the same English departments. Even if the course has innocent titles like Shakespeare, how it is taught is very different. Worth reading this substack by a recent Columbia graduate with a degree in English.
https://www.pensandpoison.org/p/i-thought-i-was-going-to-study-literature
She may only be one person but what she says is corraborated by several old friends who are professors. Not every school is quite like Columbia but this ideological approach to teaching English (and history) is pervasive in many places. This kind of shift is certainly one of the multiple factors behind the dramatic collapse in students majoring in the humanities.
So, she went to college thinking studying English was going to be one thing, and it was something else? Meaning…she learned something? The point of going to college?
This piece is so full of clichés that I can’t believe a human wrote it. She was forced to give her pronouns? She had to read Said and Butler and other theory? She was expected to engage with work outside “the Western canon”? The horror! Also…with the exception of pronouns, all of this was true when I was in English undergrad/grad in the 90s.
What a giant blubbering baby. She wanted to go to college and live in her bubble. They tried to force her out of it, but she had no interest in learning. Such a waste.
(Also…“political correctness” was “the newest buzzword on campus” in 2015? Really?)
Anonymous wrote:How many of you have earned a bachelor's and masters in English?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People who question the value of this major don't undertand higher education.
Not factoring AI?
AI is coming for all of us, not just writers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People who question the value of this major don't undertand higher education.
Not factoring AI?
Anonymous wrote:People who question the value of this major don't undertand higher education.
Anonymous wrote:People who question the value of this major don't undertand higher education.
Anonymous wrote:s/o from 13-year-old thread
What do expert parents and English students or grads say re: English major?
Anonymous wrote:Most people are thinking about their experiences studying English in college 20-30 years ago, which is when parents of current students were in college. It's not the same world. It's not the same English departments. Even if the course has innocent titles like Shakespeare, how it is taught is very different. Worth reading this substack by a recent Columbia graduate with a degree in English.
https://www.pensandpoison.org/p/i-thought-i-was-going-to-study-literature
She may only be one person but what she says is corraborated by several old friends who are professors. Not every school is quite like Columbia but this ideological approach to teaching English (and history) is pervasive in many places. This kind of shift is certainly one of the multiple factors behind the dramatic collapse in students majoring in the humanities.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:English major here, worked out great for me. I read fiction in college and wrote essays about the stories. For that they gave me a degree, which is the minimum requirement for the job I've held for the past 30 years. If I had to do it over I wouldn't change a thing.
Yes a bachelor's to find a job. But what job is it? It employed you, but was the English major part necessary to get this particular job?