Anonymous wrote:Not OP but 2nd poster (don’t want to be accused of sock puppeting)- while we don’t find the parent community great, I want to be clear that our most significant issue has been teacher quality. It is very uneven- each grade has amazing teachers, but each grade has incredibly poor teachers. The variability is too wide to ensure a consistent minimal bar that’s acceptable. Even parents who love the school share stories about their one (or two) bad years. There are only 5 years- one or two bad years means a large minority of your experience is bad. The administration appetite for concerns about teachers is nil. I work in the education space and believe that administration should support teachers…however the Beauvoir admin seems to believe that teachers can do no wrong and if there’s a problem it’s because of the parents and kids. Sometimes it is! But the assumption that your staff is infallible is very odd, and damaging to children and families who have legitimate concerns.
Anyway- best of luck OP. NCS parent, there are some lovely kids and families joining your community. Unfortunately there are many families and children harmed by their Beauvoir experience (some of whom may be joining you at NCS too). We are truly counting the days (three more including today!) and will be celebrating hard after Thursday chapel.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We’ve only been at the school 1 year so some will say give it time, but overall we had a good experience with the school and community this year, and I consider myself a fairly involved parent. Don’t get me wrong I’ve had a few issues with the school but nothing super alarming. I disagree with the comments about curriculum- before we enrolled I spoke with families from other schools including Sidwell, and they said the strong top-down curriculum was actually one of the advantages of BVR over Sidwell. Unfortunately there is uneven teacher quality at every school- that’s just part of private school in a high COL city where good teachers are in short demand. But BVR’s top-down curriculum ensures all the classes are more or less getting the same instruction.
My main gripe with the community is actually that I find them under-engaged with the school and their kid. We’re not super rich and I felt like I didn’t fit in with the superstar career execs busy with their high-powered DC social lives and nannies round the clock doing pickups and play dates. But I found them nice enough and relatively inclusive even though I definitely don’t fit in. I wouldn’t plan on making friends there as I have at other schools. I have a feeling as we get older we are going to have to deal with entitled kids in our peer group, but that’s a hazard of private school in NW DC (and maybe some publics as well).
I found the admin staff including HOS to be wonderfully engaging and responsive. They know your child by name and were very responsive on the occasion I raised an issue. I thought there was a nice balance of community and parent events as well.
What do you mean by top down curriculum? Can you please explain
Anonymous wrote:Op here. Thursday was rough. Had to take a couple of days to process. I'm still processing. I see some comments that say we are to blame. Probably that's true. We're outsiders and didn't know the rules of the game until it was nearly over. I feel an overwhelming sense of guilt for putting my child through that system. For not wising up sooner. This year has taken a toll on DC no matter what we say or do. I just hope that others can learn from others and spare their own children.
Anonymous wrote:We’ve only been at the school 1 year so some will say give it time, but overall we had a good experience with the school and community this year, and I consider myself a fairly involved parent. Don’t get me wrong I’ve had a few issues with the school but nothing super alarming. I disagree with the comments about curriculum- before we enrolled I spoke with families from other schools including Sidwell, and they said the strong top-down curriculum was actually one of the advantages of BVR over Sidwell. Unfortunately there is uneven teacher quality at every school- that’s just part of private school in a high COL city where good teachers are in short demand. But BVR’s top-down curriculum ensures all the classes are more or less getting the same instruction.
My main gripe with the community is actually that I find them under-engaged with the school and their kid. We’re not super rich and I felt like I didn’t fit in with the superstar career execs busy with their high-powered DC social lives and nannies round the clock doing pickups and play dates. But I found them nice enough and relatively inclusive even though I definitely don’t fit in. I wouldn’t plan on making friends there as I have at other schools. I have a feeling as we get older we are going to have to deal with entitled kids in our peer group, but that’s a hazard of private school in NW DC (and maybe some publics as well).
I found the admin staff including HOS to be wonderfully engaging and responsive. They know your child by name and were very responsive on the occasion I raised an issue. I thought there was a nice balance of community and parent events as well.
Anonymous wrote:NCS parent here. It scares me to see the pipeline of students and parents that are coming/may be joining the NCS community. NCS has worked hard to focus on the whole child and an inclusive environment but the next batch of BVR parents/students gives me the ick. I'm sorry for your experiences.
Anonymous wrote:We’ve only been at the school 1 year so some will say give it time, but overall we had a good experience with the school and community this year, and I consider myself a fairly involved parent. Don’t get me wrong I’ve had a few issues with the school but nothing super alarming. I disagree with the comments about curriculum- before we enrolled I spoke with families from other schools including Sidwell, and they said the strong top-down curriculum was actually one of the advantages of BVR over Sidwell. Unfortunately there is uneven teacher quality at every school- that’s just part of private school in a high COL city where good teachers are in short demand. But BVR’s top-down curriculum ensures all the classes are more or less getting the same instruction.
My main gripe with the community is actually that I find them under-engaged with the school and their kid. We’re not super rich and I felt like I didn’t fit in with the superstar career execs busy with their high-powered DC social lives and nannies round the clock doing pickups and play dates. But I found them nice enough and relatively inclusive even though I definitely don’t fit in. I wouldn’t plan on making friends there as I have at other schools. I have a feeling as we get older we are going to have to deal with entitled kids in our peer group, but that’s a hazard of private school in NW DC (and maybe some publics as well).
I found the admin staff including HOS to be wonderfully engaging and responsive. They know your child by name and were very responsive on the occasion I raised an issue. I thought there was a nice balance of community and parent events as well.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a current parent, my reflections on our experience at Beauvoir has left me deeply disappointed as we end the year.
What has frustrated me most is the apparent inability of the school community to engage constructively with criticism. Concerns raised by parents are often dismissed rather than addressed, creating an environment where honest discussion feels unwelcome. Indeed, any critical post of the school has been locked or erased from this site. I fully expect the same to happen with this thread.
One of the biggest problems is the quality of teaching is highly uneven. Our experience over the years has shown that quality varies dramatically from classroom to classroom, and that inconsistency can have a significant impact on young children during formative years.
The culture can also feel surprisingly insular and status-conscious. Rather than the warm and supportive community I expected, I have often found the parent community to be competitive, cliquish, and lacking (ironically) in empathy.
For families with boys, the transition process to the next schools can be especially stressful. Decisions regarding placement and admissions often feel opaque, and when children are not accepted to expected destinations, families are left searching for explanations. Whether or not those explanations exist, the lack of transparency can be painful for both parents and children with profound and lasting impacts.
I was also disappointed by the limited support available to families considering options outside the traditional Cathedral school pathway for our kids. At times, it felt as though families pursuing alternative routes were largely on their own. It seems that trend is starting to change, and for the better.
What saddens me most is that these dynamics affect very young children. This is an age when schools should be building confidence, curiosity, and a sense of belonging. Instead, the pressure, competition, and uncertainty can feel disproportionate to the age of the students involved.
I know many families have had positive experiences, and I respect that. Mine has been different. For us, leaving Beauvoir this week will be a relief rather than a regret.
OP, you've written a lot here and I think your post is sincere and serious. If I were considering schools for a child of this age, I would very much appreciate what you've contributed to the conversation.
However, as a long time DMV private school parent (not at Beauvoir now), I will say to you that the part that I have bolded above is on you to prevent. If you are allowing school decisions that come in the 3rd grade to 8 and 9 year old children to have a "profound and lasting impact," then you need to examine your own behavior on the subject. And if pressure and competition is out of line for students of this age, and I have no doubt that for many it is, then it is up to parents to step in and say "enough." I would never allow a child of this age to absorb such negative feedback from a school or an admissions process and decision.
I will never forget, years ago, hearing a 4 YO in our preschool tell me that she "got into XX school." Obviously, that is the language that she had absorbed at home; that she had achieved something grand at the age of 4. That struck me at the time as both odd and sad. Kids of this age do not need to be exposed to this, and it's up to parents to prevent it from causing this so-called long term impact.
Anonymous wrote:OP - sharing support. We are also very pleased to be done. There is fair criticism over every school AND in my experience the fair criticism of Beauvoir is weirdly pushed aside. I would have made a different choice knowing now what I know - the teacher quality extremely variable, lack of consistent curriculum and education philosophy, and outplacement only focused on the Cathedral Schools. Half of the children in my older child's class were receiving extensive out of school support because they were not at grade level. While there will always be kids receiving support, it's unusual for half of a class to not be comfortable readers at the end of 1st grade. Very few families choose Beauvoir for Beauvoir - they choose it for the best path to NCS / STA. Because of that, the whole experience is focused on NCS / STA - who's gotten in? Are you planning on going? Etc - this all started in prek. The school doesn't have to stand on its own and compete against the other elementary schools. If it did, it would come up short. I know many people who have had great experiences - it seems like they got lucky and knew what they wanted (NCS / STA) and that was the right answer for their kid in 2nd grade. Others who didn't get lucky with teachers or who realized their kids wouldn't be well served at NCS / STA or who realized they didn't like the community on the Close and wanted different are SOL. We are very happy to be done.