Anonymous
05/19/2026 18:40
Subject: Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
Equally true that private school is never worth it. You are paying to subsidize tuition for poor and middle-class students.Anonymous wrote:OOS public school is never worth it. You are paying to subsidize in-state tuition.
Anonymous
05/19/2026 18:40
Subject: Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UNC and UVa, absolutely not regardless of major. UCB and UM, it could be depended on what you want to study.
UMich and Cal are worth oos for Eng/CS, but not UNC or UVA. So, it depends on your major.
There is nothing at UCB that is worth the mess of a UCB undergraduate experience. If you can get into UCB and want to do CS you can go to SJSU or Santa Clara and get all of the same opportunities for less money and angst.
Anonymous
05/19/2026 18:37
Subject: Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
Anonymous wrote:At today’s tuition rates, almost no college is worth the money unless is a T10.
There are at least 10 - 15 other schools as good or better than any T10 for a particular major. If you are hunting for IB/MBB then some of them are worth it and some of them fall behind the top SLACs. Otherwise ROI is a poor metric.
Anonymous
05/19/2026 18:36
Subject: Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
Anonymous wrote:OOS public school is never worth it. You are paying to subsidize in-state tuition.
Ridiculous statement. These publics are superior to 99% of privates.
Anonymous
05/19/2026 18:29
Subject: Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
OOS public school is never worth it. You are paying to subsidize in-state tuition.
Anonymous
05/19/2026 18:23
Subject: Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, if Engineering/Tech then UCB and UM are well worth it. You didn't mention Georgia Tech but the same applies there as well. Otherwise, probably not. I honestly can't think of any program at UNC worth paying out of state for.
Trade-school mindset.
Anonymous
05/19/2026 18:12
Subject: Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
In my opinion, if Engineering/Tech then UCB and UM are well worth it. You didn't mention Georgia Tech but the same applies there as well. Otherwise, probably not. I honestly can't think of any program at UNC worth paying out of state for.
Anonymous
05/19/2026 17:49
Subject: Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
Anonymous wrote:Crazy town, 85k average now for most, UNC is low 70s. Hard to believe it would be worth it but I guess they cater to rich people.
Anybody have positive outcomes justifying these costs? Or just hardcore legacies or prestige chasing parents?
Consider UF in Gainesville. Tuition is cheap and they give merit aid too and top 30 school
Anonymous
05/19/2026 17:43
Subject: Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
Anonymous wrote:I have an OOS kid at one of these schools, full-pay. I have another kid at a smaller, highly selective private school. And I truly don’t understand what people mean by “worth it.”
Is this about post-graduation salary? Class size? Reputation? Research opportunities? Personal attention? Happiness?
Both schools are “worth it” to us because they’re the schools our kids wanted to go to, where they thought they’d be happy and challenged.
Exactly. I’ve been raising this kid for 18 years and they’ve been a cost center the whole time. I’m not going to suddenly start being a hardass about short-term ROI. Would I go into debt for an OOS state school? No, but I also wouldn’t go into debt for a private school. YMMV.
Anonymous
05/19/2026 17:39
Subject: Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
Anonymous wrote:Worth it relative to a much cheaper in state option? No, not worth it. Worth it relative to full pay at privates? Depends on major.
The better question now is does any undergraduate degree make sense relative to ROI. Debatable.
+1 Depends on your kids' other options, their prospects for being employed upon graduation, your wealth etc. If your kid has in-state tuition at a good public, maybe not. If your kid's other option is U. Michigan full pay vs Northeastern or full pay, I'd pick Michigan.
Anonymous
05/19/2026 17:36
Subject: Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
Anonymous wrote:Crazy town, 85k average now for most, UNC is low 70s. Hard to believe it would be worth it but I guess they cater to rich people.
Anybody have positive outcomes justifying these costs? Or just hardcore legacies or prestige chasing parents?
So use your state flagship, which is there for a reason. Or send your kids to CrapU and they can ask this same question a generation from now.
Anonymous
05/19/2026 17:29
Subject: Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
I have an OOS kid at one of these schools, full-pay. I have another kid at a smaller, highly selective private school. And I truly don’t understand what people mean by “worth it.”
Is this about post-graduation salary? Class size? Reputation? Research opportunities? Personal attention? Happiness?
Both schools are “worth it” to us because they’re the schools our kids wanted to go to, where they thought they’d be happy and challenged.
Is this about post-graduation salary? Class size? Reputation? Research opportunities? Personal attention? Happiness?
Both schools are “worth it” to us because they’re the schools our kids wanted to go to, where they thought they’d be happy and challenged.
Anonymous
05/19/2026 17:27
Subject: Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maryland? Absolutely worth it.Anonymous wrote:UNC and UVa, absolutely not regardless of major. UCB and UM, it could be depended on what you want to study.
I think Um = Mich per OP's title thread.
Yes knew that was making a point thanks
Anonymous
05/19/2026 17:27
Subject: Re:Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
tag helps a a lot at the Vtech rate but maybe not Umich rate
Anonymous
05/19/2026 17:27
Subject: Full pays oos at UVA, UMICH, UCB, UNC worth it???????
Anonymous wrote:Maryland? Absolutely worth it.Anonymous wrote:UNC and UVa, absolutely not regardless of major. UCB and UM, it could be depended on what you want to study.
I think Um = Mich per OP's title thread.