Anonymous
Post 05/14/2026 11:22     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

It’s absolutely your personality.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2026 11:20     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

Anonymous wrote:People who are naturally good looking have way easier lives than someone who is wealthy but unattractive. I do think at a certain point, money and fame can make up for lack of good looks, but this is a level that is unattainable for most people (centimillionaire or higher).

If you’re a man born ugly, short, bald, small member, etc (something that is not easily fixable) even if you achieve decent upper middle class wealth, think 5-10M, your overall quality of life will be worse than a guy who is a broke or LMC “Chad”.

I fall into this category. I’m a man who is unattractive and never got attention from women until my late 20’s when career took off, but even then it was difficult. I live a comfortable life with above average wealth, but not enough to live a baller lifestyle like you see in the movies. I have family members who are poorer than me but better looking and act passive aggressive jealous about my finances vs theirs, but they don’t realize how much better their social & dating lives were compared to mine because they’re conventionally good looking. I would trade all my money to be born as a man with top 5% looks and live paycheck to paycheck.


You can make the best of your natural looks. Short men who are ripped and dress well and are successful have no problem getting women or making money. Your mindset is your problem, not your looks.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2026 11:19     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

Worse than being short is feeling self-pity. Confidence (not gross machismo!), but self-assurance and having a calm demeanor are extremely attractive. Men who have $5M+ net worth should have no problem finding women to date.
OP, get a therapist and work on your self-esteem.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2026 11:18     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

Anonymous wrote:Have you considered having a better personality?


He needs to smile more.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2026 11:17     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

I would never marry an attractive man who only lived “paycheck to paycheck.” Women are hardwired to prioritize safety and survival for them and their offspring. Yes, it’s nice to have attractive kids but I don’t want them to be broke!
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2026 10:46     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m the opposite - a very attractive woman who never had a career/money. It was fine until I got divorced and was on my own with no career to speak of. Took me a very long time to fix my financial situation, and it’s still very much a struggle. I would rather have wealth.

And so much of beauty can be bought. Men can get cosmetic work, hair transplants, get in shape, buy nice clothes. Beauty standards for women nowadays have gotten so extreme even the attractive ones need to invest so much time and money into their appearance.


Men can't grow taller though, and height is the top indicator of physical attracriveness.


This. Men’s physical attractiveness is more set in stone (or has a hard upper limit). For women the two things are weight and age. Everyone’s young at some point and with weight, might be difficult for some people to lose fat but it’s infinitely easier than getting taller.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 18:24     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

Anonymous wrote:I’m the opposite - a very attractive woman who never had a career/money. It was fine until I got divorced and was on my own with no career to speak of. Took me a very long time to fix my financial situation, and it’s still very much a struggle. I would rather have wealth.

And so much of beauty can be bought. Men can get cosmetic work, hair transplants, get in shape, buy nice clothes. Beauty standards for women nowadays have gotten so extreme even the attractive ones need to invest so much time and money into their appearance.


Men can't grow taller though, and height is the top indicator of physical attracriveness.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 18:23     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

Sex with beautiful women is like having lots of money OP. After a while, you get used to it.
You're not missing out on much, honestly.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 15:50     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People who are naturally good looking have way easier lives than someone who is wealthy but unattractive. I do think at a certain point, money and fame can make up for lack of good looks, but this is a level that is unattainable for most people (centimillionaire or higher).

If you’re a man born ugly, short, bald, small member, etc (something that is not easily fixable) even if you achieve decent upper middle class wealth, think 5-10M, your overall quality of life will be worse than a guy who is a broke or LMC “Chad”.

I fall into this category. I’m a man who is unattractive and never got attention from women until my late 20’s when career took off, but even then it was difficult. I live a comfortable life with above average wealth, but not enough to live a baller lifestyle like you see in the movies. I have family members who are poorer than me but better looking and act passive aggressive jealous about my finances vs theirs, but they don’t realize how much better their social & dating lives were compared to mine because they’re conventionally good looking. I would trade all my money to be born as a man with top 5% looks and live paycheck to paycheck.
you are still better off than an equally unattractive female


This. You can make money and be attractive to some women. Mostly the bad ones but some. It’s hard for unattractive women to be attractive to anyone though.


It’s true that men can compensate better for being ugly. But women have more control over their looks than men and can more easily do a glow up. For women the most common physical issue is weight, which is controllable. Get skinny and put on some makeup, it’s not difficult to go from being a 3/10 to an 8.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 15:45     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

I’m the opposite - a very attractive woman who never had a career/money. It was fine until I got divorced and was on my own with no career to speak of. Took me a very long time to fix my financial situation, and it’s still very much a struggle. I would rather have wealth.

And so much of beauty can be bought. Men can get cosmetic work, hair transplants, get in shape, buy nice clothes. Beauty standards for women nowadays have gotten so extreme even the attractive ones need to invest so much time and money into their appearance.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 15:41     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

Have you considered having a better personality?
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 15:34     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People who are naturally good looking have way easier lives than someone who is wealthy but unattractive. I do think at a certain point, money and fame can make up for lack of good looks, but this is a level that is unattainable for most people (centimillionaire or higher).

If you’re a man born ugly, short, bald, small member, etc (something that is not easily fixable) even if you achieve decent upper middle class wealth, think 5-10M, your overall quality of life will be worse than a guy who is a broke or LMC “Chad”.

I fall into this category. I’m a man who is unattractive and never got attention from women until my late 20’s when career took off, but even then it was difficult. I live a comfortable life with above average wealth, but not enough to live a baller lifestyle like you see in the movies. I have family members who are poorer than me but better looking and act passive aggressive jealous about my finances vs theirs, but they don’t realize how much better their social & dating lives were compared to mine because they’re conventionally good looking. I would trade all my money to be born as a man with top 5% looks and live paycheck to paycheck.
you are still better off than an equally unattractive female


This. You can make money and be attractive to some women. Mostly the bad ones but some. It’s hard for unattractive women to be attractive to anyone though.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 15:29     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

Anonymous wrote:People who are naturally good looking have way easier lives than someone who is wealthy but unattractive. I do think at a certain point, money and fame can make up for lack of good looks, but this is a level that is unattainable for most people (centimillionaire or higher).

If you’re a man born ugly, short, bald, small member, etc (something that is not easily fixable) even if you achieve decent upper middle class wealth, think 5-10M, your overall quality of life will be worse than a guy who is a broke or LMC “Chad”.

I fall into this category. I’m a man who is unattractive and never got attention from women until my late 20’s when career took off, but even then it was difficult. I live a comfortable life with above average wealth, but not enough to live a baller lifestyle like you see in the movies. I have family members who are poorer than me but better looking and act passive aggressive jealous about my finances vs theirs, but they don’t realize how much better their social & dating lives were compared to mine because they’re conventionally good looking. I would trade all my money to be born as a man with top 5% looks and live paycheck to paycheck.
you are still better off than an equally unattractive female
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 13:44     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Every single good looking woman has dated a guy who was not conventionally attractive or "her type" - the common thread is personality and confidence. But so many short / ugly / balding guys just wallow down into the "I'd have such a better life if I was 6'4"!!" mentality that they're walking around either mopey or furious. And then when women are not attracted to a furious or miserable guy, he decides it's because women are shallow and he spirals further.


Correct.

+2
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 13:37     Subject: Attractiveness > Money

Anonymous wrote:Every single good looking woman has dated a guy who was not conventionally attractive or "her type" - the common thread is personality and confidence. But so many short / ugly / balding guys just wallow down into the "I'd have such a better life if I was 6'4"!!" mentality that they're walking around either mopey or furious. And then when women are not attracted to a furious or miserable guy, he decides it's because women are shallow and he spirals further.


Correct.