Anonymous
05/12/2026 22:10
Subject: Edscape 25-26 pathways
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow. Only 13 kids stayed for 5th grade at Brent. Anyone pretending the current 4th/5th grade combo has not been a failure is crazy. What is that principal thinking?
a huge number of the rising 5th graders got into BASIS.
21, to be precise. Wow.
Yu Ying sent 10 to BASIS. All other schools n<10.
Also, Brent is in a renovation so kids are being bussed pretty far away (maybe Columbia Heights?) for a couple of years. That may have led to an even bigger number of kids who jumped ship.
They lost a significant number of kids at every grade level, which is different from previous years. Their overall enrollment is down this year, certainly in large part to the renovation.
Numbers don't lie. Some certainly attributable to renovation but JOW also in swing space this year.
Brent: 13 of 66 stayed for 5th 19.6%
Maury: 67 of 92 stayed for 5th 72.8%
JOW: 42 of 60 stayed for 5th 70%
Tyler: 55 of 72 stayed for 5th 76.4%
Amidon: 47 of 65 stayed for 5th 72.3%
Watkins: 75 of 98 stayed for 5th 76.5%
Payne: 36 of 48 stayed for 5th 75%
Ludlow: 48 of 77 stayed for 5th 62.3%
That LT number is way off. That grade was tiny. Definitely didn’t have over 25 kids in a class… more like 18. Where did you get the denominators from?
Sorry, I misunderstood. This is the kids back in 5th grade this year? There were 21-22 4th graders in a class last year, so 48 of 65 or so would be my guess. Perhaps it’s 67 with the self contained class and that’s a typo for 48 of 67?
Anonymous
05/12/2026 21:59
Subject: Edscape 25-26 pathways
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow. Only 13 kids stayed for 5th grade at Brent. Anyone pretending the current 4th/5th grade combo has not been a failure is crazy. What is that principal thinking?
a huge number of the rising 5th graders got into BASIS.
21, to be precise. Wow.
Yu Ying sent 10 to BASIS. All other schools n<10.
Also, Brent is in a renovation so kids are being bussed pretty far away (maybe Columbia Heights?) for a couple of years. That may have led to an even bigger number of kids who jumped ship.
They lost a significant number of kids at every grade level, which is different from previous years. Their overall enrollment is down this year, certainly in large part to the renovation.
Numbers don't lie. Some certainly attributable to renovation but JOW also in swing space this year.
Brent: 13 of 66 stayed for 5th 19.6%
Maury: 67 of 92 stayed for 5th 72.8%
JOW: 42 of 60 stayed for 5th 70%
Tyler: 55 of 72 stayed for 5th 76.4%
Amidon: 47 of 65 stayed for 5th 72.3%
Watkins: 75 of 98 stayed for 5th 76.5%
Payne: 36 of 48 stayed for 5th 75%
Ludlow: 48 of 77 stayed for 5th 62.3%
That LT number is way off. That grade was tiny. Definitely didn’t have over 25 kids in a class… more like 18. Where did you get the denominators from?
Anonymous
05/12/2026 19:48
Subject: Edscape 25-26 pathways
No wonder Basis 5th has been the Brent mafia this year.
Anonymous
05/12/2026 19:40
Subject: Re:Edscape 25-26 pathways
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:81 Hardy students went to MacArthur this year.
John-Francis got a bunch in 6th from temporary feeders - Garrison 24, Seaton 15, Cleveland <10. In all four years prior, all of these schools sent <10 to Cardozo.
Interesting. What will happen to John Francis when those temporary feeders end. And those feeder schools? It's a lot from Garrison.
John Francis will offer more lottery seats again. I imagine many will go to students from Garrison, Seaton, and Cleveland as they did before.
Hopefully the new Euclid MS will get a lot of buy in from its feeders too, but that remains to be seen.
Interesting. Even if you throw in 9 kids for Cleveland, that's only 48 kids. Even with feeder rights to a pretty well established and decently reputable school, that's actually not a ton of kids. Assuming you get another 20 from Cooke/Marie Reed/Tubman who also will have programatic feeder rights to the new Euclid Middle school (they each sent <10 to their temporary programatic feeder this year, MacFarland), that's only 68 kids. They're going to have to take a LOT of out of bounds kids to fill this new Euclid Middle School.
I wonder if DCPS will give a preference to the Garrison/Seaton/Cleveland students to both schools for a while (the way that Hardy students could choose between JR and MacArthur for a few years.)
Doubtful. The whole point here is that this school is supposed to be more appealing than Cardozo Middle ever was.
If they did, it would totally kill Euclid, and Euclid isn't off to a great start as it is. If John-Francis didn't get more buy in, I'd worry even more about Euclid.
Anonymous
05/12/2026 19:31
Subject: Edscape 25-26 pathways
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow. Only 13 kids stayed for 5th grade at Brent. Anyone pretending the current 4th/5th grade combo has not been a failure is crazy. What is that principal thinking?
a huge number of the rising 5th graders got into BASIS.
21, to be precise. Wow.
Yu Ying sent 10 to BASIS. All other schools n<10.
Also, Brent is in a renovation so kids are being bussed pretty far away (maybe Columbia Heights?) for a couple of years. That may have led to an even bigger number of kids who jumped ship.
They lost a significant number of kids at every grade level, which is different from previous years. Their overall enrollment is down this year, certainly in large part to the renovation.
Numbers don't lie. Some certainly attributable to renovation but JOW also in swing space this year.
Brent: 13 of 66 stayed for 5th 19.6%
Maury: 67 of 92 stayed for 5th 72.8%
JOW: 42 of 60 stayed for 5th 70%
Tyler: 55 of 72 stayed for 5th 76.4%
Amidon: 47 of 65 stayed for 5th 72.3%
Watkins: 75 of 98 stayed for 5th 76.5%
Payne: 36 of 48 stayed for 5th 75%
Ludlow: 48 of 77 stayed for 5th 62.3%
Anonymous
05/12/2026 17:49
Subject: Re:Edscape 25-26 pathways
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:81 Hardy students went to MacArthur this year.
John-Francis got a bunch in 6th from temporary feeders - Garrison 24, Seaton 15, Cleveland <10. In all four years prior, all of these schools sent <10 to Cardozo.
Interesting. What will happen to John Francis when those temporary feeders end. And those feeder schools? It's a lot from Garrison.
John Francis will offer more lottery seats again. I imagine many will go to students from Garrison, Seaton, and Cleveland as they did before.
Hopefully the new Euclid MS will get a lot of buy in from its feeders too, but that remains to be seen.
Interesting. Even if you throw in 9 kids for Cleveland, that's only 48 kids. Even with feeder rights to a pretty well established and decently reputable school, that's actually not a ton of kids. Assuming you get another 20 from Cooke/Marie Reed/Tubman who also will have programatic feeder rights to the new Euclid Middle school (they each sent <10 to their temporary programatic feeder this year, MacFarland), that's only 68 kids. They're going to have to take a LOT of out of bounds kids to fill this new Euclid Middle School.
They could make Francis Stevens pk-5 and have a decent sized middle school with a bunch of feeders.
Anonymous
05/12/2026 16:52
Subject: Re:Edscape 25-26 pathways
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:81 Hardy students went to MacArthur this year.
John-Francis got a bunch in 6th from temporary feeders - Garrison 24, Seaton 15, Cleveland <10. In all four years prior, all of these schools sent <10 to Cardozo.
Interesting. What will happen to John Francis when those temporary feeders end. And those feeder schools? It's a lot from Garrison.
John Francis will offer more lottery seats again. I imagine many will go to students from Garrison, Seaton, and Cleveland as they did before.
Hopefully the new Euclid MS will get a lot of buy in from its feeders too, but that remains to be seen.
Interesting. Even if you throw in 9 kids for Cleveland, that's only 48 kids. Even with feeder rights to a pretty well established and decently reputable school, that's actually not a ton of kids. Assuming you get another 20 from Cooke/Marie Reed/Tubman who also will have programatic feeder rights to the new Euclid Middle school (they each sent <10 to their temporary programatic feeder this year, MacFarland), that's only 68 kids. They're going to have to take a LOT of out of bounds kids to fill this new Euclid Middle School.
I wonder if DCPS will give a preference to the Garrison/Seaton/Cleveland students to both schools for a while (the way that Hardy students could choose between JR and MacArthur for a few years.)
Doubtful. The whole point here is that this school is supposed to be more appealing than Cardozo Middle ever was.
Submitted too soon. Macarthur is way less appealing than JR, and as JR is a four-year school there are more siblings than a three-year school would have.
Anonymous
05/12/2026 16:51
Subject: Re:Edscape 25-26 pathways
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:81 Hardy students went to MacArthur this year.
John-Francis got a bunch in 6th from temporary feeders - Garrison 24, Seaton 15, Cleveland <10. In all four years prior, all of these schools sent <10 to Cardozo.
Interesting. What will happen to John Francis when those temporary feeders end. And those feeder schools? It's a lot from Garrison.
John Francis will offer more lottery seats again. I imagine many will go to students from Garrison, Seaton, and Cleveland as they did before.
Hopefully the new Euclid MS will get a lot of buy in from its feeders too, but that remains to be seen.
Interesting. Even if you throw in 9 kids for Cleveland, that's only 48 kids. Even with feeder rights to a pretty well established and decently reputable school, that's actually not a ton of kids. Assuming you get another 20 from Cooke/Marie Reed/Tubman who also will have programatic feeder rights to the new Euclid Middle school (they each sent <10 to their temporary programatic feeder this year, MacFarland), that's only 68 kids. They're going to have to take a LOT of out of bounds kids to fill this new Euclid Middle School.
I wonder if DCPS will give a preference to the Garrison/Seaton/Cleveland students to both schools for a while (the way that Hardy students could choose between JR and MacArthur for a few years.)
Doubtful. The whole point here is that this school is supposed to be more appealing than Cardozo Middle ever was.
Anonymous
05/12/2026 16:51
Subject: Re:Edscape 25-26 pathways
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:81 Hardy students went to MacArthur this year.
John-Francis got a bunch in 6th from temporary feeders - Garrison 24, Seaton 15, Cleveland <10. In all four years prior, all of these schools sent <10 to Cardozo.
Interesting. What will happen to John Francis when those temporary feeders end. And those feeder schools? It's a lot from Garrison.
John Francis will offer more lottery seats again. I imagine many will go to students from Garrison, Seaton, and Cleveland as they did before.
Hopefully the new Euclid MS will get a lot of buy in from its feeders too, but that remains to be seen.
Interesting. Even if you throw in 9 kids for Cleveland, that's only 48 kids. Even with feeder rights to a pretty well established and decently reputable school, that's actually not a ton of kids. Assuming you get another 20 from Cooke/Marie Reed/Tubman who also will have programatic feeder rights to the new Euclid Middle school (they each sent <10 to their temporary programatic feeder this year, MacFarland), that's only 68 kids. They're going to have to take a LOT of out of bounds kids to fill this new Euclid Middle School.
I wonder if DCPS will give a preference to the Garrison/Seaton/Cleveland students to both schools for a while (the way that Hardy students could choose between JR and MacArthur for a few years.)
Anonymous
05/12/2026 16:29
Subject: Edscape 25-26 pathways
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am sure this is all correct. But a total of only 13 kids returning to *Brent* 5th grade is insane. Remember that the original rationale was that they had too many 5th graders for 1 class, but not enough for 2. Well they've sure fixed that problem!
No dog in this fight but Brent families have money and resources. They are not going to stay in their IB poorly performing middle school. Those that are thinking of moving to burbs to Bethesda or wherever will do it in early to mid elementary
Except that more than double the number of Brent kids stayed for 5th as recently as 4 years ago... I wonder what changed... Oh wait, literally the year the stupid upper school was introduced.
Anonymous
05/12/2026 16:26
Subject: Edscape 25-26 pathways
Anonymous wrote:Is Euclid going to be a language school?
No. Cleveland has a language feeder track to MacFarland.
Anonymous
05/12/2026 16:25
Subject: Re:Edscape 25-26 pathways
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:81 Hardy students went to MacArthur this year.
John-Francis got a bunch in 6th from temporary feeders - Garrison 24, Seaton 15, Cleveland <10. In all four years prior, all of these schools sent <10 to Cardozo.
Interesting. What will happen to John Francis when those temporary feeders end. And those feeder schools? It's a lot from Garrison.
John Francis will offer more lottery seats again. I imagine many will go to students from Garrison, Seaton, and Cleveland as they did before.
Hopefully the new Euclid MS will get a lot of buy in from its feeders too, but that remains to be seen.
Interesting. Even if you throw in 9 kids for Cleveland, that's only 48 kids. Even with feeder rights to a pretty well established and decently reputable school, that's actually not a ton of kids. Assuming you get another 20 from Cooke/Marie Reed/Tubman who also will have programatic feeder rights to the new Euclid Middle school (they each sent <10 to their temporary programatic feeder this year, MacFarland), that's only 68 kids. They're going to have to take a LOT of out of bounds kids to fill this new Euclid Middle School.
Keep in mind that many parents of this year's 6th graders have been thinking about middle school pathways for awhile. Families likely peeled off to more desirable feeders before they knew about the temporary John Francis feed. If parents see Euclid as a viable option early on in their child's academic career, Euclid could see more buy in than John Francis did this year.
Anonymous
05/12/2026 16:11
Subject: Edscape 25-26 pathways
Is Euclid going to be a language school?
Anonymous
05/12/2026 16:06
Subject: Re:Edscape 25-26 pathways
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:81 Hardy students went to MacArthur this year.
John-Francis got a bunch in 6th from temporary feeders - Garrison 24, Seaton 15, Cleveland <10. In all four years prior, all of these schools sent <10 to Cardozo.
Interesting. What will happen to John Francis when those temporary feeders end. And those feeder schools? It's a lot from Garrison.
John Francis will offer more lottery seats again. I imagine many will go to students from Garrison, Seaton, and Cleveland as they did before.
Hopefully the new Euclid MS will get a lot of buy in from its feeders too, but that remains to be seen.
Interesting. Even if you throw in 9 kids for Cleveland, that's only 48 kids. Even with feeder rights to a pretty well established and decently reputable school, that's actually not a ton of kids. Assuming you get another 20 from Cooke/Marie Reed/Tubman who also will have programatic feeder rights to the new Euclid Middle school (they each sent <10 to their temporary programatic feeder this year, MacFarland), that's only 68 kids. They're going to have to take a LOT of out of bounds kids to fill this new Euclid Middle School.
I live OOB and am definitely going to consider it when the time comes. We are IB for McKinley Middle so there's a good chance Euclid St could be better.
Anonymous
05/12/2026 15:59
Subject: Re:Edscape 25-26 pathways
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:81 Hardy students went to MacArthur this year.
John-Francis got a bunch in 6th from temporary feeders - Garrison 24, Seaton 15, Cleveland <10. In all four years prior, all of these schools sent <10 to Cardozo.
Interesting. What will happen to John Francis when those temporary feeders end. And those feeder schools? It's a lot from Garrison.
John Francis will offer more lottery seats again. I imagine many will go to students from Garrison, Seaton, and Cleveland as they did before.
Hopefully the new Euclid MS will get a lot of buy in from its feeders too, but that remains to be seen.
Interesting. Even if you throw in 9 kids for Cleveland, that's only 48 kids. Even with feeder rights to a pretty well established and decently reputable school, that's actually not a ton of kids. Assuming you get another 20 from Cooke/Marie Reed/Tubman who also will have programatic feeder rights to the new Euclid Middle school (they each sent <10 to their temporary programatic feeder this year, MacFarland), that's only 68 kids. They're going to have to take a LOT of out of bounds kids to fill this new Euclid Middle School.