3.95 GPA unweighted, 35 ACT, coming from a large public school in the DMV. Admitted to a HYPSM for squash. Ranked in the top 5 nationally.

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Anonymous wrote:Track recruit
Top in state and nationally ranked in two events
Was told 1100 was minimum SAT score (got higher) from two Ivies
4.3 W GPA
Issue was no money- and doesn’t qualify for need based aid.
Deciding between Ivy and other highly ranked schools that offer good money (top state schools, schools in top 30)

1,100??? Omg! See I was right on how much lower standards are for athletes even though it raises admittance chances from 3% to 70%.

Ivies are looking for pointy kids. They could fill the entire class with 1600 SAT if they wanted to. Nobody needs a 1600 SAT to be successful at college.

No they couldn't. Only about 1000 perfect SAT score per year.
Not saying they should try but a perfect SAT score is not that common.

Internationally ranked in badminton.

HYP admit.

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Anonymous wrote:Track recruit
Top in state and nationally ranked in two events
Was told 1100 was minimum SAT score (got higher) from two Ivies
4.3 W GPA
Issue was no money- and doesn’t qualify for need based aid.
Deciding between Ivy and other highly ranked schools that offer good money (top state schools, schools in top 30)

1,100??? Omg! See I was right on how much lower standards are for athletes even though it raises admittance chances from 3% to 70%.

According the one of the Ivies- 25 years of stats show the athletes perform as well academically as the non-athletes so they don’t really care about test scores

To be fair…there is massive grade INflation at most

Athletes also have more success once they graduate too. Ken Griffin of Citadel just had a talk where he said he targets academically gifted athletes. Also, this study.

https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2024/11/ivy-league-athletics-career-success-harvard-study

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Anonymous wrote:Track recruit
Top in state and nationally ranked in two events
Was told 1100 was minimum SAT score (got higher) from two Ivies
4.3 W GPA
Issue was no money- and doesn’t qualify for need based aid.
Deciding between Ivy and other highly ranked schools that offer good money (top state schools, schools in top 30)

1,100??? Omg! See I was right on how much lower standards are for athletes even though it raises admittance chances from 3% to 70%.

According the one of the Ivies- 25 years of stats show the athletes perform as well academically as the non-athletes so they don’t really care about test scores

To be fair…there is massive grade INflation at most

Anonymous wrote:1100 is not lying. Heard this from Penn and Columbia. They prefer if it is higher but that is the minimum to get through admissions

For track and field you either misunderstood or are lying, and it is posted on the school's websites. You cannot pass the academic index with that SAT score. Every, literally every, coach told us 1400 is the target SAT and that if you significantly below that the AI wouldn't work. We talked to the two schools you mentioned.

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Anonymous wrote:Track recruit
Top in state and nationally ranked in two events
Was told 1100 was minimum SAT score (got higher) from two Ivies
4.3 W GPA
Issue was no money- and doesn’t qualify for need based aid.
Deciding between Ivy and other highly ranked schools that offer good money (top state schools, schools in top 30)

1,100??? Omg! See I was right on how much lower standards are for athletes even though it raises admittance chances from 3% to 70%.

Ivies are looking for pointy kids. They could fill the entire class with 1600 SAT if they wanted to. Nobody needs a 1600 SAT to be successful at college.

1100 is not lying. Heard this from Penn and Columbia. They prefer if it is higher but that is the minimum to get through admissions

All the boys I know who have been recruited and admitted to Ivy's have had multiple hooks (URM or legacy or both).

Anonymous wrote:Ivy coaches will give exact stats needed to kids they're interested in, this will include GPA, SAT/ACT, and required times/metrics for their particular sport. That's it, the other things don't matter, and, again, the coach will be very specific about what is needed so there is no guessing game.

Basically true. The one thing you missed is that you will do an official visit before being offered a slot. If you are not a good fit with the team, are a complete jerk, do something dumb on your trip (get drunk, do drugs, make racist comments), or just don't "vibe" with the coach, you may not get offered a slot.

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Private School
Track and Field (Field)

UW 3.9; SAT 1480 (one try); 11AP Classes (Bio/Calc/Phys/Chem, Eng (2), History (2), Stats, AA History, Geo) all 4s and 5s. Remainder were all honors classes.

Well liked by teachers, great recommendation letters.

State Champion for their event, Top Ten Nationally for their event

Admitted to non-HYP Ivy within the last 3 years (SAT was submitted at request of coach).

Is there a split in field vs track?

Ie would your kid have gotten hyp if they were a top 10 in the nation track athlete?


Top 10 nationally ranked in an objective measured thing with those grades and test scores should be hyp no?

OP here

I can't speak to other sports, but can give you my experience. Recruiting is weird, and idiosyncratic. The T/F team gets a certain number of recruiting slots and that is then divided up by the head coach to the coach for each event. From what we experienced there are 12 to 15 slots for the entire team, and then each coach will get 1 or 2 slots. Some events will get 0 slots if they have, say already have 6 good athletes in pole vault that are sophomores, juniors and seniors. Then if you have a multi-event athlete recruit they may get preference over your kid even if your kid is better at the individual event. For Example, if you have one recruit who is top 20 nationally at both triple jump and long jump but your kid is top 10 at only long jump they may not be a top recruit.

I understand from friends that hockey goalies are another position where this happens. If Harvard happened to get two really good recruits for goalie one year, the next year maybe they will get zero slots.

That being said, my child was recruited by two of the HYP schools and had conversations with the coaches. However, to make this even more laughable for some on this board, we also have legacy at the school they attend and that was where my child felt the most connection. They always wanted to go to this school since they were a little kid so once they found out they could be guaranteed admission they just stopped looking.

Also, a clarification. They were top 10 nationally among JUNIORS in high school, which was the recruiting cohort. They would go on to be top 10 nationally for the entire high-school cohort their senior year.

Finally, the poster who said 1100 SAT I believe is lying. Every coach we talked to said 700 math and 700 English was the target for SAT.

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Anonymous wrote:Track recruit
Top in state and nationally ranked in two events
Was told 1100 was minimum SAT score (got higher) from two Ivies
4.3 W GPA
Issue was no money- and doesn’t qualify for need based aid.
Deciding between Ivy and other highly ranked schools that offer good money (top state schools, schools in top 30)

1,100??? Omg! See I was right on how much lower standards are for athletes even though it raises admittance chances from 3% to 70%.

And wait until you hear about the well ranked state schools and other top schools standards for athletes.

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Anonymous wrote:Track recruit
Top in state and nationally ranked in two events
Was told 1100 was minimum SAT score (got higher) from two Ivies
4.3 W GPA
Issue was no money- and doesn’t qualify for need based aid.
Deciding between Ivy and other highly ranked schools that offer good money (top state schools, schools in top 30)

1,100??? Omg! See I was right on how much lower standards are for athletes even though it raises admittance chances from 3% to 70%.

According the one of the Ivies- 25 years of stats show the athletes perform as well academically as the non-athletes so they don’t really care about test scores

Anonymous wrote:Track recruit
Top in state and nationally ranked in two events
Was told 1100 was minimum SAT score (got higher) from two Ivies
4.3 W GPA
Issue was no money- and doesn’t qualify for need based aid.
Deciding between Ivy and other highly ranked schools that offer good money (top state schools, schools in top 30)

1,100??? Omg! See I was right on how much lower standards are for athletes even though it raises admittance chances from 3% to 70%.

Track recruit
Top in state and nationally ranked in two events
Was told 1100 was minimum SAT score (got higher) from two Ivies
4.3 W GPA
Issue was no money- and doesn’t qualify for need based aid.
Deciding between Ivy and other highly ranked schools that offer good money (top state schools, schools in top 30)