Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 17:21     Subject: UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean that’s the thing. You all can complain about the cost of college and health care, but we make more than double (or triple). We do have social programs for the poor as well.

Have you seen the housing costs in the UK?


And, have you tried to get a home loan in the UK? No 30 year mortgage there. What’s your monthly payment going to be in a year? Anyone’s guess.

Every place has its good and bad.


The US is the only country that offers standard 30 year mortgages. So what?
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 17:11     Subject: UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

Anonymous wrote:I mean that’s the thing. You all can complain about the cost of college and health care, but we make more than double (or triple). We do have social programs for the poor as well.

Have you seen the housing costs in the UK?


And, have you tried to get a home loan in the UK? No 30 year mortgage there. What’s your monthly payment going to be in a year? Anyone’s guess.

Every place has its good and bad.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 17:08     Subject: UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

Anonymous wrote:When I travel around Europe, the biggest safety issue I have to worry about is pickpockets. When I travel in the US, or just live here, the biggest safety issue I have to worry about is shootings.

I'll take pickpockets over shootings.


Disagree. Shootings are so rare but pickpockets are endemic in Europe. And cops don’t seem to care.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 17:07     Subject: UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

I mean that’s the thing. You all can complain about the cost of college and health care, but we make more than double (or triple). We do have social programs for the poor as well.

Have you seen the housing costs in the UK?
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 17:04     Subject: UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

This is the sortt of thing that really highlights US cuts in education spending
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 17:04     Subject: UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

Anonymous wrote:When I travel around Europe, the biggest safety issue I have to worry about is pickpockets. When I travel in the US, or just live here, the biggest safety issue I have to worry about is shootings.

I'll take pickpockets over shootings.


I guess you're not a woman.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 17:03     Subject: UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

EU Kids end HS being fluent in at least three languages. Education counts.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 16:59     Subject: UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

When I travel around Europe, the biggest safety issue I have to worry about is pickpockets. When I travel in the US, or just live here, the biggest safety issue I have to worry about is shootings.

I'll take pickpockets over shootings.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 16:58     Subject: Re:UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

If you talk to a Brit, and tell them about our healthcare system, they would think we are crazy, and that no way do they want our system. If you tell them how much college costs here, they also would balk. If you tell them about how many mass shootings we have here, they'd be shocked that a supposedly first world country has gun deaths rivaling third world countries.

Europeans have a smaller wealth gap than we do here. More of their citizens can afford healthcare and to live modestly than people in the US. Do you see British people clamoring to come to the US? No. We know people in the UK, and most of them live pretty comfortably though not extravagantly. They all think our system is nuts.

Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 16:48     Subject: UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

Norway, Finland and Denmark are also socialist countries with higher standards of living that the US.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 16:03     Subject: UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

Anonymous wrote:We know socialism doesn’t work. We tried to force capitalism on the world and they don’t want it. Except maybe China now wants it.

Anyway, we keep bringing new waves of foreigners to this country and either we aren’t Americanizing them properly or we are oversubscribed but it seems like a lot of these new foreigners are pushing socialism on us again. They should've stayed in their own socialist countries.


Do you know socialism doesn't work? Is Australia socialist? It has an Labour government and offers free public healthcare. And yet its median wealth is $268,000 per person vs $124,000 in USA. That’s a hell of a difference.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 15:58     Subject: UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

Anonymous wrote:Not anymore. Their crime rate is up due to Muslim third world immigrants.


Last year the homicide rate in England and Wales was 8.6 per million people, the lowest level since 1977, and was 59 per million in the US. But shoplifting was up a bit. Is that what you’re talking about?
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 15:36     Subject: UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to watch that stupid YouTube video — can someone summarize?


A guy doing man in the street interviews in London. One American, the rest British. All expressing surprise as most thought the UK would be in the top ten if it were a state. One women guessed the bottom 25% and said Americans like working more than the British.

Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 15:26     Subject: UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

I don’t want to watch that stupid YouTube video — can someone summarize?
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2026 15:07     Subject: UK, Italy, France quality decline, now poorer than all 50 states

If you are talking about material things, then sure America is wealthier because we have more stuff: cars, bigger houses, and more stuff to fill your house with. Our economy is bigger because it requires more private capital for account for America's lifestyle.

Americans have to earn more to have their basic needs met. Want to go to the doctor? You need to have money for that. Not so in UK or France. Want to go to the grocery store in America or literally anywhere? You need a car for that. Not so in the UK or Italy. You can walk to take trains.