I wish this thread had taken off more....

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Anonymous wrote:Bravo for most misogynistic post of the day! 👏👏👏

No, we’re not falling for your “women are crazy” spiel. Even for women struggling in perimenopause. You might want to take a look in the mirror about how entrenched in the patriarchy you are. If these were friends of yours, you should ask them in private how they are and support them.

Do better.

I don’t think it’s misogynistic to acknowledge that the perimenopause years can really deeply affect your mental health.

I agree with you AND you can do that without blasting stories about crazy women and asking innocently if it’s “peri.” This isn’t a conversation. I bet OP is a man.

I’m a 49 year old woman and I disagree with you. The stories are sort of central to the question. We don’t know these people, it’s ok.

Okay, so let's hear how you're crazy. Please give us more shit to confirm that women in midlife are out of their minds. I'll wait for OP too. We're here to gawk.

I agree with your take and don’t think OP is well-intentioned at all. Come on, making fun of an anorexic for bone breaks?

That said, I’ve noticed some really v unpleasant changes in some of my post-meno acquaintances. I don’t know whether they are using HRT or if they ever have. One just got fired in humiliating fashion from a volunteer job, a cruel experience that at the same time is not surprising; she cannot let other people just be, and is always verbally accosting them with accusations about being wrong about this or that situation. I’ve witnessed in these cases (not everyone) a total inability to be emotionally balanced and introspective, to hold the tongue for a strategically opportune time. It scares the S out of me, that despite my seeing this and being on appropriate hrt for my symptoms under a doctors care, that ill wake up totally estranged from myself and then estrange myself further by how I act.

I feel like this myself. I am becoming more aloof with age. I don't really trust people/situations and just lead my life around family and my home. I think it's a mix of accumulated experiences and peri anxiety.

I agree but can others provide examples of what they are seeing?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bravo for most misogynistic post of the day! 👏👏👏

No, we’re not falling for your “women are crazy” spiel. Even for women struggling in perimenopause. You might want to take a look in the mirror about how entrenched in the patriarchy you are. If these were friends of yours, you should ask them in private how they are and support them.

Do better.

I don’t think it’s misogynistic to acknowledge that the perimenopause years can really deeply affect your mental health.

I agree with you AND you can do that without blasting stories about crazy women and asking innocently if it’s “peri.” This isn’t a conversation. I bet OP is a man.

I’m a 49 year old woman and I disagree with you. The stories are sort of central to the question. We don’t know these people, it’s ok.

Okay, so let's hear how you're crazy. Please give us more shit to confirm that women in midlife are out of their minds. I'll wait for OP too. We're here to gawk.

I agree. I am seeing a lot of insane behavior lately. I agree with the above that age and hormones and our lifestyles make it harder to hide

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Someone I know just disclosed their late onset bipolar 2 diagnosis, which is associated with perimenopause.

Bullsh*t.

“Peri” is not a mental illness.

Nobody said peri is a mental illness

https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.focus.20200041

Everybody is insane these days. While I have some PTSD from my childhood the crazy I see around me everyday is next level.

During peri and menopause I became completely and totally rage filled as that estrogen seeped away. A lot of women do. And then it leveled out and I am fine.

It sounds like OP must have a particularly troubled group of friends.

But, yes, things like eating disorders and drug use and alcohol problems and even over exercising really start hitting all people when they enter middle age.

I think that perimenopause can and does contribute to some of these examples, but I also thinks it’s become a trendy, catch-all excuse for bad behavior. Not everything’s perimenopause, just like not everything’s ADHD.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bravo for most misogynistic post of the day! 👏👏👏

No, we’re not falling for your “women are crazy” spiel. Even for women struggling in perimenopause. You might want to take a look in the mirror about how entrenched in the patriarchy you are. If these were friends of yours, you should ask them in private how they are and support them.

Do better.

I don’t think it’s misogynistic to acknowledge that the perimenopause years can really deeply affect your mental health.

I agree with you AND you can do that without blasting stories about crazy women and asking innocently if it’s “peri.” This isn’t a conversation. I bet OP is a man.

I’m a 49 year old woman and I disagree with you. The stories are sort of central to the question. We don’t know these people, it’s ok.

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Someone I know just disclosed their late onset bipolar 2 diagnosis, which is associated with perimenopause.

Bullsh*t.

“Peri” is not a mental illness.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bravo for most misogynistic post of the day! 👏👏👏

No, we’re not falling for your “women are crazy” spiel. Even for women struggling in perimenopause. You might want to take a look in the mirror about how entrenched in the patriarchy you are. If these were friends of yours, you should ask them in private how they are and support them.

Do better.

I don’t think it’s misogynistic to acknowledge that the perimenopause years can really deeply affect your mental health.

Ditto. We are not allowed to discuss medical and mental health on an anonymous board? It’s not like op is posting this on Facebook with links to these people. Pp sounds insanely paranoid

Yes. Someone I know just disclosed their late onset bipolar 2 diagnosis, which is associated with perimenopause.

I see it in my cohort as well, OP. I think it's normal, has always happened, but our generation doesn't try to hide it like previous generations.

Middle age is when the body and brain start struggling to keep up appearances. All the stuff that was simmering under the surface is just harder to manage, and perimenopause just turbocharges all the ups and downs.