Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many kids do you have? If more than one, you'll need to work out this scenario for multiple kids. I'd say apply and see what happens. You could probably afford to cash flow some of it or fund with outside scholarships. Only you can determine if the ROI is there. There's different schools of thought on if Ivy degrees are worth it.
I'd say differently. Figure out finances ahead of time. They will not get Financial aide. Most of the T25-30 schools do NOT really offer merit (10 awards out of 2K freshman is not really offering it). So if you are not willing to be full pay, let your kid know. So they can have a great list of targets/safeties that will be in the price range you are willing to pay.
With that wealth they will need to go T100 or so to get substantial savings.
Anonymous wrote:Somehow over the past few years, our net worth has skyrocketed. We are early-mid 50s and current net worth is about $4.35 million. This includes about $1m in home equity and $2.4m in retirement. The remaining approx $900k includes around $300k in earmarked college savings. Most of the rest is in brokerage accounts -- and is about 80% gains (so capital gain tax would be due on sale).
Our income has gone up considerably in the past few years, and is now around $280k, including dividends, W2 income and 1099. Mortgage is very low ($1k a month) but property tax is high ($20k per year) and we put about $75k a year into retirement.
Our oldest child will be applying to college in the fall. He is a very high achiever and very interested in Ivy league schools. Realizing that despite his achievements, admission to Ivies is always tough, what I'm trying to work out is whether we discourage his application to highly selective schools that do not offer merit aid where if successful we'd be expected to pay $95k per year. Clearly we won't get any needs based aid.
Everytime I run the numbers -- looking at likely growth of our funds while our kids are in college, only withdrawing 4% or less, possibly diverting money from retirement to college or cashflowing a portion -- it looks like it's doable for us to spend that kind of money, at least for one kid. But what if there is a catastrophic drop in the market? Or if I (the primary earner) lose my job?
Essentially would it be worth the investment? Potentially $400k per kid is more than we've ever spent on a house, for example, and I grew up without much money. If he instead goes to our state flagship it would be one third of the cost. Wouldn't that be a better investment? My husband thinks he should apply to the pricey colleges and then if he gets in, we decide, but I think it makes more sense to work out how much we are prepared to pay in advance.
Anonymous wrote:We did not apply to expensive privates. We are in VA and had our children apply ED to UVA or W&M. (One chose one and one chose the other.) The backup plan was out of state public bit thankfully both kids were admitted ED.
No regrets. NW is $6M+.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many kids do you have? If more than one, you'll need to work out this scenario for multiple kids. I'd say apply and see what happens. You could probably afford to cash flow some of it or fund with outside scholarships. Only you can determine if the ROI is there. There's different schools of thought on if Ivy degrees are worth it.
I'd say differently. Figure out finances ahead of time. They will not get Financial aide. Most of the T25-30 schools do NOT really offer merit (10 awards out of 2K freshman is not really offering it). So if you are not willing to be full pay, let your kid know. So they can have a great list of targets/safeties that will be in the price range you are willing to pay.
Anonymous wrote:You have the money to send both kids to full private. Inlcuding ivy if they get in. They certainly don’t need to be chasing merit but it sounds like you’re going to ask them to? Or go public? Maybe you should step back and think about your priorities. What do you want to do with your money? Invest in your kids? Set up the next generation? You aren’t going to run out of money. Even though it sounds like you’re worried about that. If the market tanks 30%, you’re not going to need access to all of it in the next 24 months - so you’re going to do what you did in the dot com crash and 2008 - wait it out until it comes back.
Anonymous wrote:How many kids do you have? If more than one, you'll need to work out this scenario for multiple kids. I'd say apply and see what happens. You could probably afford to cash flow some of it or fund with outside scholarships. Only you can determine if the ROI is there. There's different schools of thought on if Ivy degrees are worth it.
Anonymous wrote:The additional cost of an Ivy is not $400K, it's the difference between $400K and the cheaper option. THat cheaper option might be your in state school or might be someplace that gives your kid merit aid (if your kid can get into an Ivy, he/she will get merit somewhere). What does your kid want to do? What kind of a school does he/she want? I would probably pay it and think it was worth it depending on what my kid wanted to do. For ex, if my kid wanted to be a teacher, I would encourage them to go to one of the cheapest options available and then give them money for a down payment when they are older.
Anonymous wrote:I think they use all the 900k to determine what you have available not just the 300k. I would do some net price calculators. We’re in a similar boat where our assets are higher than you would think based on our income because of an inheritance. We don’t qualify for any aid when I’ve put in info into net price calculators.
We’re thinking of just not letting our kid apply early decision to any schools so we punt the decision on what we’re willing to pay to the spring and can consider cost. Whatever we choose for our oldest, we’ll do for our youngest + account for inflation.