Anonymous wrote:I know of several kids at U-13 and up that were in the DCU ID process (they would train occassionally with DCU) and at least one other that made the jump (U-16 I think). I've also seen DCU coaches/scouts at Potomac games. If the kid is good, he'll get chances.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Potomac is like any club. They’re happy people and unhappy people. I would venture to say the unhappy people at Potomac will be unhappy anywhere. It is a well run club with good coaches and decent communication. However they did let a coach that was brought from the outside create too much turmoil and upheaval and that disrupted what should have been a natural flow of kids moving upward and their progression. However, those kids are developing and will do fine. Most everyone we know from u12 and above is happy and u9 and below seems happy.
The top teams at Potomac can beat anyone and their “issues” seem to be the same that any club has.
No doubt the top ECNL and MLSNext clubs are competive against each other. But I’m curious as to what has been asked. Why are Potomac boys and girls not being invited to USYNT events or do not appear to be scouted by academies? DCU takes kids from the other MLSNext and ECNL clubs all the time (even the ones they have cool relationships with). Haven’t seen much from Potomac. Are the coaches and club not doing enough to advocate for their players?
Is that Potomac’s business model?
1) DCU has its P2P clubs it works with. I would not expect any special relationship to Potomac.
2) BSC does not promote anything to DCU and DCU still find kids at BSC despite the clubs efforts to block them. If you are good enough, they will find you. I would not focus on the club. I would focus on your kid.
3) Potomac coaches SHOULD be recommending players to ID2. Again, if your kid can play, USYNT and MLS academies will find you through that process.
4) Potomac coaches SHOULD be recommending players for the MLS Next ID weekend on Indigenous People/Columbus weekend.
5) MLS academies recruit at the regional ID camp for ODP. I know a few Potomac players in ODP. If you are not making the regional ID camp for ODP, USMNT should not be on your radar. If you kid can ball, they will be noticed.
No horse in the race but a club does not dictate what happens to a kid. Plenty of ways to get seen if your kid can ball. Most kids can’t ball at the level of their parent’s ambition and think it is the club's fault.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I only have exp with the girls' side at the u-little level... seemingly at the u8 - u10, Potomac is way behind BSC. At u11 and u12 its comparable depending on the team. The girl's side (seems) to be trying to improve, bring in better quality coaches and be more selective on the players they bring in, but who knows what next year will bring. BSC is BSC, I generally think if your kid is 1st or 2nd team u10 and under, BSC is a better option. Not sure what's going on for next year. I know parents on both clubs looking to possibly move (including BSC to PSA and PSA to BSC).
BSC boys side is a mess right now so good look to those attracted to the name. You can have our spot.
Anonymous wrote:I only have exp with the girls' side at the u-little level... seemingly at the u8 - u10, Potomac is way behind BSC. At u11 and u12 its comparable depending on the team. The girl's side (seems) to be trying to improve, bring in better quality coaches and be more selective on the players they bring in, but who knows what next year will bring. BSC is BSC, I generally think if your kid is 1st or 2nd team u10 and under, BSC is a better option. Not sure what's going on for next year. I know parents on both clubs looking to possibly move (including BSC to PSA and PSA to BSC).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Potomac is like any club. They’re happy people and unhappy people. I would venture to say the unhappy people at Potomac will be unhappy anywhere. It is a well run club with good coaches and decent communication. However they did let a coach that was brought from the outside create too much turmoil and upheaval and that disrupted what should have been a natural flow of kids moving upward and their progression. However, those kids are developing and will do fine. Most everyone we know from u12 and above is happy and u9 and below seems happy.
The top teams at Potomac can beat anyone and their “issues” seem to be the same that any club has.
No doubt the top ECNL and MLSNext clubs are competive against each other. But I’m curious as to what has been asked. Why are Potomac boys and girls not being invited to USYNT events or do not appear to be scouted by academies? DCU takes kids from the other MLSNext and ECNL clubs all the time (even the ones they have cool relationships with). Haven’t seen much from Potomac. Are the coaches and club not doing enough to advocate for their players?
Anonymous wrote:Potomac is like any club. They’re happy people and unhappy people. I would venture to say the unhappy people at Potomac will be unhappy anywhere. It is a well run club with good coaches and decent communication. However they did let a coach that was brought from the outside create too much turmoil and upheaval and that disrupted what should have been a natural flow of kids moving upward and their progression. However, those kids are developing and will do fine. Most everyone we know from u12 and above is happy and u9 and below seems happy.
The top teams at Potomac can beat anyone and their “issues” seem to be the same that any club has.
Anonymous wrote:Potomac is like any club. They’re happy people and unhappy people. I would venture to say the unhappy people at Potomac will be unhappy anywhere. It is a well run club with good coaches and decent communication. However they did let a coach that was brought from the outside create too much turmoil and upheaval and that disrupted what should have been a natural flow of kids moving upward and their progression. However, those kids are developing and will do fine. Most everyone we know from u12 and above is happy and u9 and below seems happy.
The top teams at Potomac can beat anyone and their “issues” seem to be the same that any club has.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So do most top Potomac ECNL players make the jump to MLSNext teams or other ECNL teams? Most top clubs had at least a player (boys and girls) or some invited to a USYNT talent ID event and I don’t recall seeing Potomac ECNL on the list much.
I would imagine so. In full transparency, we are with Bethesda because it is the closest to us. Potomac beat us last year and they have some really top players that my kid trains with in neutral environments. Those parents are with Potomac because it is close to them just like we are with Bethesda because it is convenient for us. I am not some crazy that believes my club is better than your club. These kids are where they are based mostly on what they do outside of training. The more comfortable you get with setting up home training and pickup close to home, the less inherent pressure and expectations you will have from your kid, and the more they will enjoy the game and actually want to train on their own. Once they have passion and internal drive on their own, the sky is the limit.
As the kids age up, people will tend to gravitate towards Bethesda because they have the track record. In our age group, if Potomac kept their team together, they would be formidable if they continue to develop. It is really deeper than the club and badge. At Bethesda, we had an awesome coach for two years and then a dud this year. If we had another dud, we will start looking. The leagues do not matter pre-puberty from talking to parents of older kids.
To combine two previous posts, if you are a novice parent, check out neutral training environments to see what quality training looks like. Then pick the club closest to you that has those principles and train with them. More importantly, play at home with your kid in the backyard and with other kids in the area at school. Most parents default to club because there aren’t a lot of options between rec and club. Even if you want to be fancy, find a top coach who is $50-$200 an hour and split it with 9 kids and run 3v3 pickup with guidance. For $6-$23 a session, your kid will have a blast with some guidance on their free play. That is how they develop. Actually playing and making mistakes and learning from those mistakes. We all love our kids and these clubs take advantage it but many of them aren’t providing a quality product for the hype.
Whatever you do, don’t believe that any club or badge means anything on the boys side. I can’t speak on the girls side but because those Bethesda girls take so much abuse and parents accept it because of the “access” the coaches provide. I would not do it but I am grateful the boys side is not like that and I am not forced to make that decision. On the boys side, most of the boys develop in environments that allow them to play. We, Bethesda, have several USYNT players that developed on smaller, no name, clubs before they came to us. If your kids stand out, a coach will walk across the sidelines to find you. You go to tryouts and they will ask your kid “who are your parents?” It is really that simple on the boys side. Once that starts happening, you can begin worry to think about the league and access. ECNL still has ID2 and I know a few kids who have been identified through that process for USYNT’s and MLS academies also.
To summarize, there is no one path.
Potomac ECNL defeated Bethesda MLS Next?