Anonymous wrote:My DH is currently ultra super low contact with his mom (only living parent). They haven’t seen each other in nearly a year, and haven’t spoken since September. They had a major falling out last year. NPD.
I can’t even begin to tell you the peace that has enveloped our lives. Holiday, weekends, etc. So much peace. I never realized how much we were all pretending until we stopped.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I recognize you, OP. Do you ever get tired of beating the same bush. Either cut them off or stop talking about it. I'm guessing you are as obnoxious to them as they are to you. I know you try my nerves and I just have to see your posts about this on occasion.
Not OP but why do you read posts that try your nerves? Do you ever get tired of doing this to yourself? You are obnoxious.
Basically, I wonder why people have to post repeatedly about the same thing. It's as if they have a massive victim mentality and get attention with their "problems" here. If they really wanted to solve their issues they would get help. It is rarely a one-side issue. But OP and people like her are getting attention by posting repeatedly on the same issue. And that's what they want. Attention. A version of Münchausen syndrome.
Doesn't it actually help if they get a reality check that maybe they are part of the problem?
You are nuts. Totally nuts. It's not the same people posting about problems with family. Just because you haven't experienced such problems doesn't mean they don't exist.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I recognize you, OP. Do you ever get tired of beating the same bush. Either cut them off or stop talking about it. I'm guessing you are as obnoxious to them as they are to you. I know you try my nerves and I just have to see your posts about this on occasion.
Not OP but why do you read posts that try your nerves? Do you ever get tired of doing this to yourself? You are obnoxious.
Basically, I wonder why people have to post repeatedly about the same thing. It's as if they have a massive victim mentality and get attention with their "problems" here. If they really wanted to solve their issues they would get help. It is rarely a one-side issue. But OP and people like her are getting attention by posting repeatedly on the same issue. And that's what they want. Attention. A version of Münchausen syndrome.
Doesn't it actually help if they get a reality check that maybe they are part of the problem?
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for all the feedback. They never went for therapy and most certainly don’t go now. They’ve told themselves all the tears it’s everyone else, not them— they are estranged from their relatives in their own families.
They just don’t get it, that they could be the problem in the room. They will not curb their behavior or keep their mouths shut as they believe they are really helping you in some way by calling out all the problems that you supposedly don’t see and that they’re just so intuitive and details and well, you should be grateful for their input. They think they’re doing you a favor by telling you that your neighborhood isn’t that great or your handyman did a bad job fixing the sink or they find some piece of news on Yahoo about your school district.
So yeah, if I do end up capitulating and helping them, I will just say I’m not doing it for them. I’m doing it for my sibling.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I recognize you, OP. Do you ever get tired of beating the same bush. Either cut them off or stop talking about it. I'm guessing you are as obnoxious to them as they are to you. I know you try my nerves and I just have to see your posts about this on occasion.
Not OP but why do you read posts that try your nerves? Do you ever get tired of doing this to yourself? You are obnoxious.
Basically, I wonder why people have to post repeatedly about the same thing. It's as if they have a massive victim mentality and get attention with their "problems" here. If they really wanted to solve their issues they would get help. It is rarely a one-side issue. But OP and people like her are getting attention by posting repeatedly on the same issue. And that's what they want. Attention. A version of Münchausen syndrome.
Doesn't it actually help if they get a reality check that maybe they are part of the problem?
It actually is often a one-sided issue. As you can see it's only one side that has an issue. In this world there are definitely perpetrators that do things just because they want to not caring about the consequences.
My point is that we are only getting OP's side of the story. There are always two sides of every story involving human beings. Each one sees it through their own lens and their own experiences. But whatever about that. I'm just saying that people who talk/complain/post repeatedly about an issue and do nothing to solve it are simply ruminating. At least the people who say I just need to vent are self aware enough to know that they just want to get it off their chests, relieve the pressure of a situation that is either unsolveable or they don't want the consequences of what the/a solution entails.
I just think people like the OP should become more self aware, and by doing so, maybe they'd be able to handle their issues better.
Lots of people post some version of OP's story. Heck, I have posted something along the same lines in the past.
OP- if other relatives are estranged from your parents, it most certainly is NOT you. Don't listen to these "every story has 2 sides" people. That's not always the case.
How is it possible that anyone believes that there is ever only one side of a story? Of course everyone has their own version. How can you be so self involved as to believe otherwise?
What can be true is that the level of difference a person has is too much for the other to deal with. Fine, then move on. But you people who act like you are blameless or perfect or superior to the other is myopic. You're just different or incompatible.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We had evolved into a sort of low contact, monthly phone calls, see them once a year for a short time kind of relationship with my parents. But it gets a lot more complicated when they get really old and start to require help. I went from this pleasant no contact, nontriggering relationship to having to go home and sleep in my childhood bedroom as I helped with my mother's broken hip. My parents are/were massively self-centered and critical. For example, they still call me by a mean childhood nickname that my brother made up when we were preschoolers. At one point I said to my mother, "I have literally been asking you not to call me that for over fifty years, half a century. Do you think you could stop now?" And the answer was that no, I don't have a sense of humor.
The eventuality that you need to be prepared for is that these people who don't behave during the best of times will possibly completely lose their filters as they age. They will require substantive engagement, and even the simplest things like hiring a house cleaner will likely evolve into a major issue, as happened in our family.
We were the siblings where the neighbors were calling us and saying "These people have parked their car on their front lawn, their doors are unlocked, the lights are on all night. Why are you terrible people not taking better care of your fragile elderly?" But they are not the kind of people that you can talk to or negotitate with -- our parents. For years, it felt like we were lying on the railroad tracks waiting for this train to run us over and we had almost no control over when the train hit, whether or not we survived. They would not have gone willingly to assisted living, a home, etc.
The only suggestion I can offer is to get some therapy, to try to cooperate with your siblings and to save money for eventualities like having to spend extended periods of time in your home town so you can afford a hotel, etc.
I have an example like this too. They call me by a name I don't prefer and won't stop despite repeatedly asking them to stop. The older I get the more I find this type of thing so beyond baffling. It's got to be mental illness.
Anonymous wrote:We had evolved into a sort of low contact, monthly phone calls, see them once a year for a short time kind of relationship with my parents. But it gets a lot more complicated when they get really old and start to require help. I went from this pleasant no contact, nontriggering relationship to having to go home and sleep in my childhood bedroom as I helped with my mother's broken hip. My parents are/were massively self-centered and critical. For example, they still call me by a mean childhood nickname that my brother made up when we were preschoolers. At one point I said to my mother, "I have literally been asking you not to call me that for over fifty years, half a century. Do you think you could stop now?" And the answer was that no, I don't have a sense of humor.
The eventuality that you need to be prepared for is that these people who don't behave during the best of times will possibly completely lose their filters as they age. They will require substantive engagement, and even the simplest things like hiring a house cleaner will likely evolve into a major issue, as happened in our family.
We were the siblings where the neighbors were calling us and saying "These people have parked their car on their front lawn, their doors are unlocked, the lights are on all night. Why are you terrible people not taking better care of your fragile elderly?" But they are not the kind of people that you can talk to or negotitate with -- our parents. For years, it felt like we were lying on the railroad tracks waiting for this train to run us over and we had almost no control over when the train hit, whether or not we survived. They would not have gone willingly to assisted living, a home, etc.
The only suggestion I can offer is to get some therapy, to try to cooperate with your siblings and to save money for eventualities like having to spend extended periods of time in your home town so you can afford a hotel, etc.
Anonymous wrote:We had evolved into a sort of low contact, monthly phone calls, see them once a year for a short time kind of relationship with my parents. But it gets a lot more complicated when they get really old and start to require help. I went from this pleasant no contact, nontriggering relationship to having to go home and sleep in my childhood bedroom as I helped with my mother's broken hip. My parents are/were massively self-centered and critical. For example, they still call me by a mean childhood nickname that my brother made up when we were preschoolers. At one point I said to my mother, "I have literally been asking you not to call me that for over fifty years, half a century. Do you think you could stop now?" And the answer was that no, I don't have a sense of humor.
The eventuality that you need to be prepared for is that these people who don't behave during the best of times will possibly completely lose their filters as they age. They will require substantive engagement, and even the simplest things like hiring a house cleaner will likely evolve into a major issue, as happened in our family.
We were the siblings where the neighbors were calling us and saying "These people have parked their car on their front lawn, their doors are unlocked, the lights are on all night. Why are you terrible people not taking better care of your fragile elderly?" But they are not the kind of people that you can talk to or negotitate with -- our parents. For years, it felt like we were lying on the railroad tracks waiting for this train to run us over and we had almost no control over when the train hit, whether or not we survived. They would not have gone willingly to assisted living, a home, etc.
The only suggestion I can offer is to get some therapy, to try to cooperate with your siblings and to save money for eventualities like having to spend extended periods of time in your home town so you can afford a hotel, etc.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I recognize you, OP. Do you ever get tired of beating the same bush. Either cut them off or stop talking about it. I'm guessing you are as obnoxious to them as they are to you. I know you try my nerves and I just have to see your posts about this on occasion.
Not OP but why do you read posts that try your nerves? Do you ever get tired of doing this to yourself? You are obnoxious.
Basically, I wonder why people have to post repeatedly about the same thing. It's as if they have a massive victim mentality and get attention with their "problems" here. If they really wanted to solve their issues they would get help. It is rarely a one-side issue. But OP and people like her are getting attention by posting repeatedly on the same issue. And that's what they want. Attention. A version of Münchausen syndrome.
Doesn't it actually help if they get a reality check that maybe they are part of the problem?
It actually is often a one-sided issue. As you can see it's only one side that has an issue. In this world there are definitely perpetrators that do things just because they want to not caring about the consequences.
My point is that we are only getting OP's side of the story. There are always two sides of every story involving human beings. Each one sees it through their own lens and their own experiences. But whatever about that. I'm just saying that people who talk/complain/post repeatedly about an issue and do nothing to solve it are simply ruminating. At least the people who say I just need to vent are self aware enough to know that they just want to get it off their chests, relieve the pressure of a situation that is either unsolveable or they don't want the consequences of what the/a solution entails.
I just think people like the OP should become more self aware, and by doing so, maybe they'd be able to handle their issues better.
Lots of people post some version of OP's story. Heck, I have posted something along the same lines in the past.
OP- if other relatives are estranged from your parents, it most certainly is NOT you. Don't listen to these "every story has 2 sides" people. That's not always the case.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I recognize you, OP. Do you ever get tired of beating the same bush. Either cut them off or stop talking about it. I'm guessing you are as obnoxious to them as they are to you. I know you try my nerves and I just have to see your posts about this on occasion.
Not OP but why do you read posts that try your nerves? Do you ever get tired of doing this to yourself? You are obnoxious.
Basically, I wonder why people have to post repeatedly about the same thing. It's as if they have a massive victim mentality and get attention with their "problems" here. If they really wanted to solve their issues they would get help. It is rarely a one-side issue. But OP and people like her are getting attention by posting repeatedly on the same issue. And that's what they want. Attention. A version of Münchausen syndrome.
Doesn't it actually help if they get a reality check that maybe they are part of the problem?
It actually is often a one-sided issue. As you can see it's only one side that has an issue. In this world there are definitely perpetrators that do things just because they want to not caring about the consequences.
My point is that we are only getting OP's side of the story. There are always two sides of every story involving human beings. Each one sees it through their own lens and their own experiences. But whatever about that. I'm just saying that people who talk/complain/post repeatedly about an issue and do nothing to solve it are simply ruminating. At least the people who say I just need to vent are self aware enough to know that they just want to get it off their chests, relieve the pressure of a situation that is either unsolveable or they don't want the consequences of what the/a solution entails.
I just think people like the OP should become more self aware, and by doing so, maybe they'd be able to handle their issues better.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I recognize you, OP. Do you ever get tired of beating the same bush. Either cut them off or stop talking about it. I'm guessing you are as obnoxious to them as they are to you. I know you try my nerves and I just have to see your posts about this on occasion.
Not OP but why do you read posts that try your nerves? Do you ever get tired of doing this to yourself? You are obnoxious.
Basically, I wonder why people have to post repeatedly about the same thing. It's as if they have a massive victim mentality and get attention with their "problems" here. If they really wanted to solve their issues they would get help. It is rarely a one-side issue. But OP and people like her are getting attention by posting repeatedly on the same issue. And that's what they want. Attention. A version of Münchausen syndrome.
Doesn't it actually help if they get a reality check that maybe they are part of the problem?
It actually is often a one-sided issue. As you can see it's only one side that has an issue. In this world there are definitely perpetrators that do things just because they want to not caring about the consequences.
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for all the feedback. They never went for therapy and most certainly don’t go now. They’ve told themselves all the tears it’s everyone else, not them— they are estranged from their relatives in their own families.
They just don’t get it, that they could be the problem in the room. They will not curb their behavior or keep their mouths shut as they believe they are really helping you in some way by calling out all the problems that you supposedly don’t see and that they’re just so intuitive and details and well, you should be grateful for their input. They think they’re doing you a favor by telling you that your neighborhood isn’t that great or your handyman did a bad job fixing the sink or they find some piece of news on Yahoo about your school district.
So yeah, if I do end up capitulating and helping them, I will just say I’m not doing it for them. I’m doing it for my sibling.