Anonymous wrote:My 22 year old son has joined a couple groups and is now a “men’s rights activist”. He’s an adult, I cannot change his beliefs, but I’m not sure how to deal with the constant talk about men’s rights when he’s at home around family or on the phone. Is there anything that I should do? I also have have 18 and 17 year old sons to worry about.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with Men's rights activism? We got everything else going on too - women's rights, minority rights, animal rights, environment,...etc. Let him be.
There is nothing "wrong" with it. Though I question the necessity. It's the "how" of the manosphere. They are disrespectful, misogynistic, and hateful, ftmp. And lbh, they're just playing victim b/c they now have to share opportunities. That's not opression.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Men's rights activists can be about improving life for men vs attacking him. Have him focus on work place safety, men's mental health, men's rights in family court, men as advocates for their own health (prostate checks, going to the doctor), support for men who are abused or in toxic, unhealthy relationships, men's suicide prevention, men and education, men's substnace use and risk taking etc.
See if you can engage him in those kinds of topics where he can advocate and support men in ways that needed and necessary.
This. If he is saying stuff like "women shouldn't vote" you can ask him how that would improve any of these issues.
Voting is fake and doesn't do anything. I would give up my vote to not have to pay taxes in heart beat.
Debate him.
Anonymous wrote:Um I think some of the men’s issues behind this can potentially not be toxic even though many of the men’s right activists have misogynistic views. Men have a lower college education rate, higher suicide rate, lower life expectancy. These are legitimate problems that could be improved upon. However, assuming your son is going down the rabbit hole of woman hating, there are some way to address this. First I would acknowledge some of his points of view that you agree with. Say yes men are struggling with x, y, and Z. Then explain why you are concerned about these organizations. Do not criticize him directly but point out some worries you have about the movement in general.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Men's rights activists can be about improving life for men vs attacking him. Have him focus on work place safety, men's mental health, men's rights in family court, men as advocates for their own health (prostate checks, going to the doctor), support for men who are abused or in toxic, unhealthy relationships, men's suicide prevention, men and education, men's substnace use and risk taking etc.
See if you can engage him in those kinds of topics where he can advocate and support men in ways that needed and necessary.
This. If he is saying stuff like "women shouldn't vote" you can ask him how that would improve any of these issues.
Anonymous wrote:Um I think some of the men’s issues behind this can potentially not be toxic even though many of the men’s right activists have misogynistic views. Men have a lower college education rate, higher suicide rate, lower life expectancy. These are legitimate problems that could be improved upon. However, assuming your son is going down the rabbit hole of woman hating, there are some way to address this. First I would acknowledge some of his points of view that you agree with. Say yes men are struggling with x, y, and Z. Then explain why you are concerned about these organizations. Do not criticize him directly but point out some worries you have about the movement in general.
Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with Men's rights activism? We got everything else going on too - women's rights, minority rights, animal rights, environment,...etc. Let him be.
Anonymous wrote:My 22 year old son has joined a couple groups and is now a “men’s rights activist”. He’s an adult, I cannot change his beliefs, but I’m not sure how to deal with the constant talk about men’s rights when he’s at home around family or on the phone. Is there anything that I should do? I also have have 18 and 17 year old sons to worry about.
Anonymous wrote:Is he failing in life? That seems why most men join men’s’ rights groups.