Prediction: Hero’s will end up overtaking HOCO

Anonymous wrote:HOCO 34 will get no less than 20 full ride D1 college scholarships

Thanks for the prediction for these 10 year olds. This will be a superhuman feat when they don’t have 20 on their roster.

Is this your prediction for the girls on the current roster—we can check in on them after they find their way to other clubs—or the girls that are with Hoco ‘34 come recruitment year?

Honestly D1 is not always saying much. There are some poo poo quality D1 teams. High school teams in Maryland could beat many. And teams like Hero’s White have 3/4 of their teams go D1.

HOCO 34 will get no less than 20 full ride D1 college scholarships

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Anonymous wrote:There is no one stronger than HOCO 2034!

Why HOCO 2034 seems dominate for now? Talent, training, parents?

They have an excellent, experienced, dedicated and slightly psychotic coach

I didn’t want to say it lol. She has a reputation from coaching at Century HS. How that’s viewed is certainly eye of the beholder. I think it’s a match for certain parents and kids, but definitely not for others? From the ‘34 team, all I know is we were at a game last year (so their first NGLL year) where they were playing a B team of a club at the outset of the season and the coach was very intense, screaming at the refs about calling fouls on the team’s aggressive riding and defense. They were probably up by a lot already at that point or it was clear it was going to be an extreme mismatch, with girls on the B team with lower level stick skills and cradling and confidence. The swarming and aggressive defense was overwhelming them. I don’t recall if the coach was right or not about the calls, but I know I was shocked by her behavior. Not sure I’d be shocked now.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no one stronger than HOCO 2034!

Why HOCO 2034 seems dominate for now? Talent, training, parents?

They have an excellent, experienced, dedicated and slightly psychotic coach

Fall tourneys is early for a team to be doing that. I’ve found that there just aren’t enough practices to be able to get to things like that until you’re well into NGLL. So much to get to, when you basically still need hours upon hours just focused on passing/catching.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s interesting about these age groups is th disparity in skill as a team. I can’t tell if it’s the coaching or if some kids on a team haven’t put in the work yet or what. For example what makes the BLC 2033 team so good compared to the others? Is it that they are comfortable passing and finding the open player to score? Is it the talent? Or something else?

The talent seems to gravitate to one club or another each year. For 2033 it’s BLC. For 2034 it’s M&D DC. Most of the girls play together on rec for a year or two before club so people see who’s got some talent. For 2033 BLC, there’s an unusually strong group of parent coaches and parents generally. Probably half the team has a parent who played D1 lax and a few of them coach.

I feel like this explains so much. Where do most of the 2033 girls go to school? Or are they from all over?

The one thing I see these younger teams really excel at is locating the open player and then passing vs. hero ball. They also spread out really well. Also helps that they can catch and throw.

Lots of schools. 2033 is also Breslins daughters year.

And I agree on the spreading out and passing. There’s also aggressiveness on ground balls and defense. Plenty of the other teams have some girls with good stick skills, but only a few teams put together as a team that age. My guess is this will equalize somewhat as they get older. A lot of these girls have had sticks in their hands since they were able to walk.

Makes me think we started too late!

Aggressiveness is important too. And agreed, it will equalize as they all learn and grow. I’m just try to figure out what else I can tell my DD in this age group to help make her a better player so I’ve been watching insta clips from some of the games. It’s insightful. Although the most impressive team I’ve ever seen in person in this age group was still M&D Black.

Which M&D Black was the best you’ve seen as 3rd or 4th graders? Did they go on to be dominant year after year?

It was the 2033 team but as 4th graders. So last year. Not sure if that will stay the same year after year though.

M&D Black 2033 went 2-6 in the NGLL A division last year. M&D DC Black 2033 went 6-2 in the B division. You might be thinking of a different team.

I appreciate the sentiment but it wasn’t the M&D DC team. It was M&D Black. It was before NGLL at a fall tournament. I had never seen a team that young settle the ball and set up around the 8 like that. It was like watching a HS game. And somehow all the kids knew to spread out. Amazing!

Sometimes the teams that do best in that first NGLL year are the ones that just/mostly have an athletic girl or, better yet, two run down and score. The coach and parents celebrate that as good lacrosse and are like we are so good, look at our wins.

Then there are some teams who try to start the focus on really playing the beginnings of long-term lacrosse in that first year of club play. That doesn’t pay early dividends because most girls can’t throw and catch for sh*t yet, and it ends up in lots of turnovers. But if they’re quietly working on throwing and catching….

Maybe that’s what you saw. The other potential is that times are a changing, and first-year teams just are better/different than what they were 5-10 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s interesting about these age groups is th disparity in skill as a team. I can’t tell if it’s the coaching or if some kids on a team haven’t put in the work yet or what. For example what makes the BLC 2033 team so good compared to the others? Is it that they are comfortable passing and finding the open player to score? Is it the talent? Or something else?

The talent seems to gravitate to one club or another each year. For 2033 it’s BLC. For 2034 it’s M&D DC. Most of the girls play together on rec for a year or two before club so people see who’s got some talent. For 2033 BLC, there’s an unusually strong group of parent coaches and parents generally. Probably half the team has a parent who played D1 lax and a few of them coach.

I feel like this explains so much. Where do most of the 2033 girls go to school? Or are they from all over?

The one thing I see these younger teams really excel at is locating the open player and then passing vs. hero ball. They also spread out really well. Also helps that they can catch and throw.

Lots of schools. 2033 is also Breslins daughters year.

And I agree on the spreading out and passing. There’s also aggressiveness on ground balls and defense. Plenty of the other teams have some girls with good stick skills, but only a few teams put together as a team that age. My guess is this will equalize somewhat as they get older. A lot of these girls have had sticks in their hands since they were able to walk.

Makes me think we started too late!

Aggressiveness is important too. And agreed, it will equalize as they all learn and grow. I’m just try to figure out what else I can tell my DD in this age group to help make her a better player so I’ve been watching insta clips from some of the games. It’s insightful. Although the most impressive team I’ve ever seen in person in this age group was still M&D Black.

Which M&D Black was the best you’ve seen as 3rd or 4th graders? Did they go on to be dominant year after year?

It was the 2033 team but as 4th graders. So last year. Not sure if that will stay the same year after year though.

M&D Black 2033 went 2-6 in the NGLL A division last year. M&D DC Black 2033 went 6-2 in the B division. You might be thinking of a different team.

I appreciate the sentiment but it wasn’t the M&D DC team. It was M&D Black. It was before NGLL at a fall tournament. I had never seen a team that young settle the ball and set up around the 8 like that. It was like watching a HS game. And somehow all the kids knew to spread out. Amazing!

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Anonymous wrote:What’s interesting about these age groups is th disparity in skill as a team. I can’t tell if it’s the coaching or if some kids on a team haven’t put in the work yet or what. For example what makes the BLC 2033 team so good compared to the others? Is it that they are comfortable passing and finding the open player to score? Is it the talent? Or something else?

The talent seems to gravitate to one club or another each year. For 2033 it’s BLC. For 2034 it’s M&D DC. Most of the girls play together on rec for a year or two before club so people see who’s got some talent. For 2033 BLC, there’s an unusually strong group of parent coaches and parents generally. Probably half the team has a parent who played D1 lax and a few of them coach.

I feel like this explains so much. Where do most of the 2033 girls go to school? Or are they from all over?

The one thing I see these younger teams really excel at is locating the open player and then passing vs. hero ball. They also spread out really well. Also helps that they can catch and throw.

Lots of schools. 2033 is also Breslins daughters year.

And I agree on the spreading out and passing. There’s also aggressiveness on ground balls and defense. Plenty of the other teams have some girls with good stick skills, but only a few teams put together as a team that age. My guess is this will equalize somewhat as they get older. A lot of these girls have had sticks in their hands since they were able to walk.

Makes me think we started too late!

Aggressiveness is important too. And agreed, it will equalize as they all learn and grow. I’m just try to figure out what else I can tell my DD in this age group to help make her a better player so I’ve been watching insta clips from some of the games. It’s insightful. Although the most impressive team I’ve ever seen in person in this age group was still M&D Black.

Which M&D Black was the best you’ve seen as 3rd or 4th graders? Did they go on to be dominant year after year?

It was the 2033 team but as 4th graders. So last year. Not sure if that will stay the same year after year though.

M&D Black 2033 went 2-6 in the NGLL A division last year. M&D DC Black 2033 went 6-2 in the B division. You might be thinking of a different team.

I was gonna say the same, that M&D ‘33 Black wasn’t a top team last year. Now that there’s a ‘33 Red team, the Black is looking better and off to a stronger start this year.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s interesting about these age groups is th disparity in skill as a team. I can’t tell if it’s the coaching or if some kids on a team haven’t put in the work yet or what. For example what makes the BLC 2033 team so good compared to the others? Is it that they are comfortable passing and finding the open player to score? Is it the talent? Or something else?

The talent seems to gravitate to one club or another each year. For 2033 it’s BLC. For 2034 it’s M&D DC. Most of the girls play together on rec for a year or two before club so people see who’s got some talent. For 2033 BLC, there’s an unusually strong group of parent coaches and parents generally. Probably half the team has a parent who played D1 lax and a few of them coach.

I feel like this explains so much. Where do most of the 2033 girls go to school? Or are they from all over?

The one thing I see these younger teams really excel at is locating the open player and then passing vs. hero ball. They also spread out really well. Also helps that they can catch and throw.

Lots of schools. 2033 is also Breslins daughters year.

And I agree on the spreading out and passing. There’s also aggressiveness on ground balls and defense. Plenty of the other teams have some girls with good stick skills, but only a few teams put together as a team that age. My guess is this will equalize somewhat as they get older. A lot of these girls have had sticks in their hands since they were able to walk.

Makes me think we started too late!

Aggressiveness is important too. And agreed, it will equalize as they all learn and grow. I’m just try to figure out what else I can tell my DD in this age group to help make her a better player so I’ve been watching insta clips from some of the games. It’s insightful. Although the most impressive team I’ve ever seen in person in this age group was still M&D Black.

Which M&D Black was the best you’ve seen as 3rd or 4th graders? Did they go on to be dominant year after year?

It was the 2033 team but as 4th graders. So last year. Not sure if that will stay the same year after year though.

M&D Black 2033 went 2-6 in the NGLL A division last year. M&D DC Black 2033 went 6-2 in the B division. You might be thinking of a different team.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s interesting about these age groups is th disparity in skill as a team. I can’t tell if it’s the coaching or if some kids on a team haven’t put in the work yet or what. For example what makes the BLC 2033 team so good compared to the others? Is it that they are comfortable passing and finding the open player to score? Is it the talent? Or something else?

The talent seems to gravitate to one club or another each year. For 2033 it’s BLC. For 2034 it’s M&D DC. Most of the girls play together on rec for a year or two before club so people see who’s got some talent. For 2033 BLC, there’s an unusually strong group of parent coaches and parents generally. Probably half the team has a parent who played D1 lax and a few of them coach.

I feel like this explains so much. Where do most of the 2033 girls go to school? Or are they from all over?

The one thing I see these younger teams really excel at is locating the open player and then passing vs. hero ball. They also spread out really well. Also helps that they can catch and throw.

Lots of schools. 2033 is also Breslins daughters year.

And I agree on the spreading out and passing. There’s also aggressiveness on ground balls and defense. Plenty of the other teams have some girls with good stick skills, but only a few teams put together as a team that age. My guess is this will equalize somewhat as they get older. A lot of these girls have had sticks in their hands since they were able to walk.

Makes me think we started too late!

Aggressiveness is important too. And agreed, it will equalize as they all learn and grow. I’m just try to figure out what else I can tell my DD in this age group to help make her a better player so I’ve been watching insta clips from some of the games. It’s insightful. Although the most impressive team I’ve ever seen in person in this age group was still M&D Black.

Which M&D Black was the best you’ve seen as 3rd or 4th graders? Did they go on to be dominant year after year?

It was the 2033 team but as 4th graders. So last year. Not sure if that will stay the same year after year though.

MDU 35 can play HOCO 34 if they want a real game. They would lose 100-0.

Looking at the NGLL scores:

Can MDU ‘35 East consider not annihilating B teams or teams with lots of ‘36s or teams that stuck a willing but completely untrained and unprepared girl in goal—like 25-0?

That’s really deflating for those teams’ girls and completely unnecessary.

NGLL has a 10 goal limit for goals for differential for a reason. To discourage demolishing teams in league play when the youngest age group does not split into A and B.

Anonymous wrote:The reason HOCO is the best is because they have the highest quality athletes

They have a high number but definitely not all. But anyway, I think that is part of it but far too simplistic and not why they are currently unmatched by other ‘34 teams. They are very hard charging, in terms of aggressive play and in terms of practicing and player expectations. Without that, I don’t think there would be as big of a gap. They also do not have equal playing time, I hear. I heard they have literal bench warmers or close. So that can be a nice advantage against say a Hero’s who does equal playing time.

They will be an excellent test case to see what happens in the coming years. Do a few girls defect (or more), can they replace them, does the whole team switch clubs (the only tie to HoCo is the director’s daughter is on the team but…[don’t want to talk about individual kids]), to what extent does the playing field level and their advantage become far less outsized, do any of those girls burn out, etc.?

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Anonymous wrote:What’s interesting about these age groups is th disparity in skill as a team. I can’t tell if it’s the coaching or if some kids on a team haven’t put in the work yet or what. For example what makes the BLC 2033 team so good compared to the others? Is it that they are comfortable passing and finding the open player to score? Is it the talent? Or something else?

The talent seems to gravitate to one club or another each year. For 2033 it’s BLC. For 2034 it’s M&D DC. Most of the girls play together on rec for a year or two before club so people see who’s got some talent. For 2033 BLC, there’s an unusually strong group of parent coaches and parents generally. Probably half the team has a parent who played D1 lax and a few of them coach.

I feel like this explains so much. Where do most of the 2033 girls go to school? Or are they from all over?

The one thing I see these younger teams really excel at is locating the open player and then passing vs. hero ball. They also spread out really well. Also helps that they can catch and throw.

Lots of schools. 2033 is also Breslins daughters year.

And I agree on the spreading out and passing. There’s also aggressiveness on ground balls and defense. Plenty of the other teams have some girls with good stick skills, but only a few teams put together as a team that age. My guess is this will equalize somewhat as they get older. A lot of these girls have had sticks in their hands since they were able to walk.

Makes me think we started too late!

Aggressiveness is important too. And agreed, it will equalize as they all learn and grow. I’m just try to figure out what else I can tell my DD in this age group to help make her a better player so I’ve been watching insta clips from some of the games. It’s insightful. Although the most impressive team I’ve ever seen in person in this age group was still M&D Black.

Which M&D Black was the best you’ve seen as 3rd or 4th graders? Did they go on to be dominant year after year?