Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The choice was between rushing a truck out and risking a collision with this plane, or risk the other plane exploding.

Jets are flying bombs. They are inherently dangerous. The problem is too much air travel clogging the skies and the airports.

What? There has to have been another way...the fact that the fire truck asked permission to cross the runway indicates they took the time to find out.

+1 It was possible to hold up the landing plane, or the next landing plane, until the fire truck got safely across.

Woulda, coulda. The plane was landing. Plane has right of way. The truck driver should have intuitively waited despite tower communication. Situational awareness deficiency? I hope he is ok but all he had to do is wait. The pilots applied heavy braking and reverse thrust after the impact and saved passengers lives. They died, many injured passengers. One lone truck driver. Trolley problem.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well they were a bit premature sending the fire truck before the accident with the fire truck.

I imagine US airports are still some of the safest in the world but they need to be even safer.

Oh give me a break!!
The U.S. air traffic controllers are working without pay!! They are doing a stressful job without pay, adding to their stress. Most people can't survive without a single paycheck. They have child care, mortgages, etc. to pay, and missing a paycheck is enormously stressful. Air traffic controllers are always overworked, understaffed, a crazily stressful job made even more stressful by the %$&# Republicans who refuse to put even the most basic limits on ICE!!!

This is the GOP's fault. The families of those pilots should sue the GOP for causing this totally unnecessary accident!!

ATC is under DOT and THEY ARE BEING PAID. So, figure out the facts before you go into hysterics.

I’d respect you more if you were flipping out about how we have a reality tv weirdo running the DOT and about how the Elon bros cancelled the ATC upgrades.

Correct atcs are being paid right now. Not sure why this thread is in the political section.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well they were a bit premature sending the fire truck before the accident with the fire truck.

I imagine US airports are still some of the safest in the world but they need to be even safer.

Oh give me a break!!
The U.S. air traffic controllers are working without pay!! They are doing a stressful job without pay, adding to their stress. Most people can't survive without a single paycheck. They have child care, mortgages, etc. to pay, and missing a paycheck is enormously stressful. Air traffic controllers are always overworked, understaffed, a crazily stressful job made even more stressful by the %$&# Republicans who refuse to put even the most basic limits on ICE!!!

This is the GOP's fault. The families of those pilots should sue the GOP for causing this totally unnecessary accident!!

ATC is under DOT and THEY ARE BEING PAID. So, figure out the facts before you go into hysterics.

I’d respect you more if you were flipping out about how we have a reality tv weirdo running the DOT and about how the Elon bros cancelled the ATC upgrades.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The choice was between rushing a truck out and risking a collision with this plane, or risk the other plane exploding.

Jets are flying bombs. They are inherently dangerous. The problem is too much air travel clogging the skies and the airports.

What? There has to have been another way...the fact that the fire truck asked permission to cross the runway indicates they took the time to find out.

+1 It was possible to hold up the landing plane, or the next landing plane, until the fire truck got safely across.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The choice was between rushing a truck out and risking a collision with this plane, or risk the other plane exploding.

Jets are flying bombs. They are inherently dangerous. The problem is too much air travel clogging the skies and the airports.

What? There has to have been another way...the fact that the fire truck asked permission to cross the runway indicates they took the time to find out.

There are no statements in the media that the plane on the ground was about to explode. It had a odor.

Based on the audio, the ATC either forgot or wasn't unaware that a plane was landing on the same runway that the firetruck asked permission to cross, or he had poor judgement. It was at 11:30 pm at night.

I wonder how long the ATC had been on duty, operating the tower short-handed, feeling under the weather, etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both pilots killed when Air Canada plane landed and collided with fire truck that was given go ahead to enter runway.
Air traffic controller’s audio indicates they are at fault.
I haven’t travelled to the US from Canada for more than 2 years now. It doesn’t feel safe for many reasons.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/air-canada-express-accident-la-guardia-airport-9.7138206

Learn how to use pronouns properly, please

I doubt anyone cares for your grammar policing on this forum. Perhaps you should go volunteer with middle schoolers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The choice was between rushing a truck out and risking a collision with this plane, or risk the other plane exploding.

Jets are flying bombs. They are inherently dangerous. The problem is too much air travel clogging the skies and the airports.

What? There has to have been another way...the fact that the fire truck asked permission to cross the runway indicates they took the time to find out.

There are no statements in the media that the plane on the ground was about to explode. It had a odor.

Based on the audio, the ATC either forgot or wasn't unaware that a plane was landing on the same runway that the firetruck asked permission to cross, or he had poor judgement. It was at 11:30 pm at night.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well they were a bit premature sending the fire truck before the accident with the fire truck.

I imagine US airports are still some of the safest in the world but they need to be even safer.

Oh give me a break!!
The U.S. air traffic controllers are working without pay!! They are doing a stressful job without pay, adding to their stress. Most people can't survive without a single paycheck. They have child care, mortgages, etc. to pay, and missing a paycheck is enormously stressful. Air traffic controllers are always overworked, understaffed, a crazily stressful job made even more stressful by the %$&# Republicans who refuse to put even the most basic limits on ICE!!!

This is the GOP's fault. The families of those pilots should sue the GOP for causing this totally unnecessary accident!!

DHS isn't being paid. The FAA is being paid.
ATC staffing is a long-term problem, and no recent President or Transportation Secretary has done much about it.

In fact you are incorrect. Biden had increased the pipeline to address this shortage. Then Trump fired them all because…DEI.

Did he actually fire them? Or just kill the programs?

All of the above and then a bunch quit.
#winning

Article from Feb 2025
https://whyy.org/articles/trump-fires-faa-air-traffic-control/

The Trump administration has begun firing several hundred Federal Aviation Administration employees, upending staff on a busy air travel weekend and just weeks after a January fatal mid-air collision at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.
Probationary workers were targeted in late night emails Friday notifying them they had been fired, David Spero, president of the Professional Aviation Safety Specialists union, said in a statement.
The impacted workers include personnel hired for FAA radar, landing and navigational aid maintenance, one air traffic controller told the Associated Press. The air traffic controller was not authorized to talk to the media and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well they were a bit premature sending the fire truck before the accident with the fire truck.

I imagine US airports are still some of the safest in the world but they need to be even safer.

Oh give me a break!!
The U.S. air traffic controllers are working without pay!! They are doing a stressful job without pay, adding to their stress. Most people can't survive without a single paycheck. They have child care, mortgages, etc. to pay, and missing a paycheck is enormously stressful. Air traffic controllers are always overworked, understaffed, a crazily stressful job made even more stressful by the %$&# Republicans who refuse to put even the most basic limits on ICE!!!

This is the GOP's fault. The families of those pilots should sue the GOP for causing this totally unnecessary accident!!

DHS isn't being paid. The FAA is being paid.
ATC staffing is a long-term problem, and no recent President or Transportation Secretary has done much about it.

In fact you are incorrect. Biden had increased the pipeline to address this shortage. Then Trump fired them all because…DEI.

Did he actually fire them? Or just kill the programs?

Anonymous wrote:The choice was between rushing a truck out and risking a collision with this plane, or risk the other plane exploding.

Jets are flying bombs. They are inherently dangerous. The problem is too much air travel clogging the skies and the airports.

What? There has to have been another way...the fact that the fire truck asked permission to cross the runway indicates they took the time to find out.

Do MAGAs deplane if their pilot isn't white?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well they were a bit premature sending the fire truck before the accident with the fire truck.

I imagine US airports are still some of the safest in the world but they need to be even safer.

Oh give me a break!!
The U.S. air traffic controllers are working without pay!! They are doing a stressful job without pay, adding to their stress. Most people can't survive without a single paycheck. They have child care, mortgages, etc. to pay, and missing a paycheck is enormously stressful. Air traffic controllers are always overworked, understaffed, a crazily stressful job made even more stressful by the %$&# Republicans who refuse to put even the most basic limits on ICE!!!

This is the GOP's fault. The families of those pilots should sue the GOP for causing this totally unnecessary accident!!

DHS isn't being paid. The FAA is being paid.
ATC staffing is a long-term problem, and no recent President or Transportation Secretary has done much about it.

In fact you are incorrect. Biden had increased the pipeline to address this shortage. Then Trump fired them all because…DEI.

Putting people’s lives at risk is criminal behavior.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well they were a bit premature sending the fire truck before the accident with the fire truck.

I imagine US airports are still some of the safest in the world but they need to be even safer.

Oh give me a break!!
The U.S. air traffic controllers are working without pay!! They are doing a stressful job without pay, adding to their stress. Most people can't survive without a single paycheck. They have child care, mortgages, etc. to pay, and missing a paycheck is enormously stressful. Air traffic controllers are always overworked, understaffed, a crazily stressful job made even more stressful by the %$&# Republicans who refuse to put even the most basic limits on ICE!!!

This is the GOP's fault. The families of those pilots should sue the GOP for causing this totally unnecessary accident!!

DHS isn't being paid. The FAA is being paid.
ATC staffing is a long-term problem, and no recent President or Transportation Secretary has done much about it.

In fact you are incorrect. Biden had increased the pipeline to address this shortage. Then Trump fired them all because…DEI.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well they were a bit premature sending the fire truck before the accident with the fire truck.

I imagine US airports are still some of the safest in the world but they need to be even safer.

Oh give me a break!!
The U.S. air traffic controllers are working without pay!! They are doing a stressful job without pay, adding to their stress. Most people can't survive without a single paycheck. They have child care, mortgages, etc. to pay, and missing a paycheck is enormously stressful. Air traffic controllers are always overworked, understaffed, a crazily stressful job made even more stressful by the %$&# Republicans who refuse to put even the most basic limits on ICE!!!

This is the GOP's fault. The families of those pilots should sue the GOP for causing this totally unnecessary accident!!

+1.

And really those that decided to slash government workers out of spite, that comprised the safety of others, should be in prison!!

Anonymous wrote:The choice was between rushing a truck out and risking a collision with this plane, or risk the other plane exploding.

Jets are flying bombs. They are inherently dangerous. The problem is too much air travel clogging the skies and the airports.

The risks were not equal. The plane on the ground had an odor. The risk of that plane exploding was lower than two vehicles colliding. It was a stupid decision to let the truck cross the runway at the moment a plane was landing, and your comment is also stupid.