Yes - UMich poli-sci/econ double major with a 3.9 hoping to go to a top law school. Work hard, play hard.

Yes! My kid is top 5% of their class at a T25. They work very hard.

My college sophomore works extremely hard. But he is a double major in Math and a social science and it's definitely the Math classes that stress him out

First require attendance for your class
Second create grading ramifications for late work
Those are the classes that my kid makes sure they attend and hand in the work by the deadline.
How are you a professor and don’t know how to do this?

It really depends on the subject. My kids are working hard in college but they will quickly save their best efforts for the subject matter related to their fields of study. If it's just some required history class to fulfill a social science credit, then yes, they are going to give the least effort they can get away with.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a college professor and am dismayed at how little effort students put into their coursework. Attendance has been horrible. Students took 1.5 weeks off during spring break. Homework hasn't been turned on. They all seem to give up and do not care. I wonder if it is only true for my university and the cohort. What do students want get out of college?

What is the point of all of these tuition if the students don’t even show up? What is their plan? Debt?

DP. Many of them will be in debt even if they do show up and work hard. Might as well enjoy themselves now.

Anonymous wrote:My college senior works hard and takes his courses seriously. He enjoys learning. However, he tells me there are classes he always attends and classes he rarely attends. These are based on the professor. Some classes have professors who simply repeat the readings and don’t add to learning. Some professors are super engaging and he looks forward to their classes.

Same for my junior. He's been asked to TA and invited to do research by several of his professors.

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Anonymous wrote:Mine isn't. DC said some prof are also not working hard.

4.0 dual STEM major, but then DC is a high performer, so maybe the professors they have are not that difficult for them.

Which school is this? Yes most profs hate teaching.

My husband is a history professor and he loves teaching and research -- it's the grading the administrative bs he can't stand.

Name the college professor.

Yes, DC wants to graduate in top 5-10% and doesn’t want to blow that now!

Anonymous wrote:I am a college professor and am dismayed at how little effort students put into their coursework. Attendance has been horrible. Students took 1.5 weeks off during spring break. Homework hasn't been turned on. They all seem to give up and do not care. I wonder if it is only true for my university and the cohort. What do students want get out of college?

What is the point of all of these tuition if the students don’t even show up? What is their plan? Debt?

I would say my student is working "medium." DC studies for quizzes and tests, completes assignments, but sometimes skips recitation and complains when gen eds are "too hard."

^high-schooler

Anonymous wrote:I imagine there has to be an undercurrent of pointlessness to everything with what they hear about the job market and AI and the general state of the world.

And I think a lot of them never learned to work hard in high school, either. Even the so called high performers. My HS senior told me that the valedictorian in her class is widely known to cheat on absolutely everything.

I think it's this.

My kid is loving college and working hard at the classes. But he has peers who are phoning it in with AI. And he's pretty unmotivated about his application to a restricted entry major and internship applications.

Honestly I think some of this is a snapback from making high school into more of a treadmill rather than fun experience. My high-school is heading down a school refusal path.

Very. My daughter studies almost 24/7. She’s majoring in Pure Math, doesn’t even have friends.