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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my honors kid stuck in an inclusion class in middle school or high school. No way! That’s why we took honors in the first place!

I assume this is a joke - the curriculum is still the same.

You can’t be serious. The pacing and peer group will be totally different and not appropriate for my honors kid to be with special needs kids. Eff that!

There are kids in those classes who are way more intelligent than your child but have ADHD or high functioning autism so they have accommodations and support. But you are probably one of those people who thinks it's unfair that those kids get support and yours doesn't. My own child is SN but of average intelligence and will probably be in team taught classes. One of my biggest worries is that attitudes like yours will rub off on people's kids. Kids like mine aren't subhuman and to be "gotten away from".

I’m not talking about smart kids with ADHD or high functioning autism. I’m talking about kids who can’t read who would slow down the class. They should not be in honors classes.

Some students with dyslexia are slow readers, but they can do audio books and do just fine. Audiobooks work for blind students too. Cognitive ability doesn’t always correlate to reading ability.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my honors kid stuck in an inclusion class in middle school or high school. No way! That’s why we took honors in the first place!

I assume this is a joke - the curriculum is still the same.

You can’t be serious. The pacing and peer group will be totally different and not appropriate for my honors kid to be with special needs kids. Eff that!

There are kids in those classes who are way more intelligent than your child but have ADHD or high functioning autism so they have accommodations and support. But you are probably one of those people who thinks it's unfair that those kids get support and yours doesn't. My own child is SN but of average intelligence and will probably be in team taught classes. One of my biggest worries is that attitudes like yours will rub off on people's kids. Kids like mine aren't subhuman and to be "gotten away from".

I’m not talking about smart kids with ADHD or high functioning autism. I’m talking about kids who can’t read who would slow down the class. They should not be in honors classes.

Kids years behind in reading are not in those honors classes. Team taught classes on the honors ELA level or mainly to support writing goals, anxiety, executive functioning, etc.

I teach English Honors and English AA.

I have students in Honors who are reading 4-5 grade levels below and who have never passed a Reading SOL.

Honors is open to all students, which means there are students below grade-level, even many years below grade-level.

Ridiculous. This should not be allowed. It's unfair for everyone.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my honors kid stuck in an inclusion class in middle school or high school. No way! That’s why we took honors in the first place!

Students with IEPs are at all academic levels. If a student has the cognitive ability to take an honors class, they should be able to take an honors class.

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Anonymous wrote:As best as I can tell, they are trying to get rid of self contained SPED rooms and make everything team taught (but only half team taught, as the sped teacher will bounce around between rooms)

It's a pipe dream and will not work in FCPS because they are using inclusion to save money (not have to hire as many SPED teachers) when doing inclusion well actually costs MORE money because they need more sped teachers to share gen ed rooms.

This is what I'm afraid of. Also, FCPS doesn't care if kids actually learn, they just want to make their inclusion numbers look good for VDOE reporting metrics.

FCPS "got in trouble" with VDOE for having too many students in self-contained classes.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my honors kid stuck in an inclusion class in middle school or high school. No way! That’s why we took honors in the first place!

I assume this is a joke - the curriculum is still the same.

You can’t be serious. The pacing and peer group will be totally different and not appropriate for my honors kid to be with special needs kids. Eff that!

There are kids in those classes who are way more intelligent than your child but have ADHD or high functioning autism so they have accommodations and support. But you are probably one of those people who thinks it's unfair that those kids get support and yours doesn't. My own child is SN but of average intelligence and will probably be in team taught classes. One of my biggest worries is that attitudes like yours will rub off on people's kids. Kids like mine aren't subhuman and to be "gotten away from".

I’m not talking about smart kids with ADHD or high functioning autism. I’m talking about kids who can’t read who would slow down the class. They should not be in honors classes.

They are not in honors level classes. If they are, it is probably against the recommendations of the Teachers. There are kids who are in honors who don’t belong there who don’t have IEPs and 504 plans. Most kids in a team taught class are there at the recommendation of the teachers and are capable of handling the material.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my honors kid stuck in an inclusion class in middle school or high school. No way! That’s why we took honors in the first place!

I assume this is a joke - the curriculum is still the same.

You can’t be serious. The pacing and peer group will be totally different and not appropriate for my honors kid to be with special needs kids. Eff that!

There are kids in those classes who are way more intelligent than your child but have ADHD or high functioning autism so they have accommodations and support. But you are probably one of those people who thinks it's unfair that those kids get support and yours doesn't. My own child is SN but of average intelligence and will probably be in team taught classes. One of my biggest worries is that attitudes like yours will rub off on people's kids. Kids like mine aren't subhuman and to be "gotten away from".

I’m not talking about smart kids with ADHD or high functioning autism. I’m talking about kids who can’t read who would slow down the class. They should not be in honors classes.

Kids years behind in reading are not in those honors classes. Team taught classes on the honors ELA level or mainly to support writing goals, anxiety, executive functioning, etc.

I teach English Honors and English AA.

I have students in Honors who are reading 4-5 grade levels below and who have never passed a Reading SOL.

Honors is open to all students, which means there are students below grade-level, even many years below grade-level.

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Anonymous wrote:Honors, team taught and non honors are all the same curriculum.

Yes with very different needs of kids and behavior of the class. Guess which classes most teachers prefer to teach?

The classes with the least annoying parents…

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my honors kid stuck in an inclusion class in middle school or high school. No way! That’s why we took honors in the first place!

I assume this is a joke - the curriculum is still the same.

You can’t be serious. The pacing and peer group will be totally different and not appropriate for my honors kid to be with special needs kids. Eff that!

There are kids in those classes who are way more intelligent than your child but have ADHD or high functioning autism so they have accommodations and support. But you are probably one of those people who thinks it's unfair that those kids get support and yours doesn't. My own child is SN but of average intelligence and will probably be in team taught classes. One of my biggest worries is that attitudes like yours will rub off on people's kids. Kids like mine aren't subhuman and to be "gotten away from".

I’m not talking about smart kids with ADHD or high functioning autism. I’m talking about kids who can’t read who would slow down the class. They should not be in honors classes.

Kids years behind in reading are not in those honors classes. Team taught classes on the honors ELA level or mainly to support writing goals, anxiety, executive functioning, etc.

My kid was in a team taught class in elementary for a couple years and it was hell. There were peers with pretty bad behaviors. Every day I would hear a new story. Choosing honors in middle school was a way for my child to escape those kids. We don’t want them back in class.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my honors kid stuck in an inclusion class in middle school or high school. No way! That’s why we took honors in the first place!

I assume this is a joke - the curriculum is still the same.

You can’t be serious. The pacing and peer group will be totally different and not appropriate for my honors kid to be with special needs kids. Eff that!

There are kids in those classes who are way more intelligent than your child but have ADHD or high functioning autism so they have accommodations and support. But you are probably one of those people who thinks it's unfair that those kids get support and yours doesn't. My own child is SN but of average intelligence and will probably be in team taught classes. One of my biggest worries is that attitudes like yours will rub off on people's kids. Kids like mine aren't subhuman and to be "gotten away from".

I’m not talking about smart kids with ADHD or high functioning autism. I’m talking about kids who can’t read who would slow down the class. They should not be in honors classes.

Anonymous wrote:Honors, team taught and non honors are all the same curriculum.

Yes with very different needs of kids and behavior of the class. Guess which classes most teachers prefer to teach?

Honors, team taught and non honors are all the same curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my honors kid stuck in an inclusion class in middle school or high school. No way! That’s why we took honors in the first place!

I assume this is a joke - the curriculum is still the same.

You can’t be serious. The pacing and peer group will be totally different and not appropriate for my honors kid to be with special needs kids. Eff that!

You clearly don’t know that there are special ed kids who are very smart and capable. We process information differently and need additional support and maybe some alternative methods to demonstrate what we know. I say we because I am an adult who was diagnosed in K with LDs and then ADHD as an adult. I earned my BA, MA, and PhD and have taught at the University level. I learn differently and didn’t really come into my own academically until the last two years of HS and then college. I did take honors and AP classes in the subjects I was strong in and needed support in the subjects that I was not.

The special ed kids in honors and AP/IB classes are very capable of being in those classes, they might need some support because of how they process not because they are not capable.

I don’t think that the requirements should be altered for the honors Team Taught classes. The students should be doing the same work with additional support. But the kids very much belong there.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my honors kid stuck in an inclusion class in middle school or high school. No way! That’s why we took honors in the first place!

I assume this is a joke - the curriculum is still the same.

You can’t be serious. The pacing and peer group will be totally different and not appropriate for my honors kid to be with special needs kids. Eff that!

There are kids in those classes who are way more intelligent than your child but have ADHD or high functioning autism so they have accommodations and support. But you are probably one of those people who thinks it's unfair that those kids get support and yours doesn't. My own child is SN but of average intelligence and will probably be in team taught classes. One of my biggest worries is that attitudes like yours will rub off on people's kids. Kids like mine aren't subhuman and to be "gotten away from".

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want my honors kid stuck in an inclusion class in middle school or high school. No way! That’s why we took honors in the first place!

I assume this is a joke - the curriculum is still the same.

You can’t be serious. The pacing and peer group will be totally different and not appropriate for my honors kid to be with special needs kids. Eff that!

I assume you're trolling!