Anonymous wrote:It's because no one goes to the movies anymore. TV (streaming, mostly) has way better content. Movies are too expensive, and people don't know how to behave in a theater anymore. Scrolling their phones and talking. Hate it.

Yes, I agree. It's been ruined by rude people with no manners. And I live in a nice area. Oh, well. I love my beautiful comfortable couch and pause the TV to use the ladies room.

It's because no one goes to the movies anymore. TV (streaming, mostly) has way better content. Movies are too expensive, and people don't know how to behave in a theater anymore. Scrolling their phones and talking. Hate it.

Anonymous wrote:We also don't go to the movies the way we used to. There used to be summers full of movies that everyone wanted to see - and now it seem there are fewer good ones. It's hard to get excited about awards for something you don't know about for people who you don't care about.

+1 Also, I don't want to hear anyone's political views during an entertainment show.

We also don't go to the movies the way we used to. There used to be summers full of movies that everyone wanted to see - and now it seem there are fewer good ones. It's hard to get excited about awards for something you don't know about for people who you don't care about.

It’s because there are too many categories.

Most people just want to see the following bests:

Director
Film
Actor
Actress
Supporting actor
Supporting actress

Maybe also screenplay, costumes, score. No one wants to watch speeches.

Anonymous wrote:The reason I don’t watch is because all celebrities have so much plastic surgery they look like monsters and freaks. It’s the same reason I don’t watch movies anymore, outside of horror. That’s the only genre in which these actors look like they actually fit in.

Also, so many of the women are scary thin. Ariana Grande, Cynthia Erivo, Emma Stone, Demi Moore... awful.

I feel like awards are usually just rigged by studios and whoever peers/industry/press feel is due for their "moment". Often an actor will win for some of their weakest work, and people who were amazing in a movie that didn't do well will get overlooked. I also don't think many celebrities these days are "special" the way movie stars used to feel.

Most award shows are seeing declining viewership - that's not new.

The Oscars always makes me shake my head - there's all this angst about why the oscars don't have great ratings, and it's because people watch things that are entertaining. Watching celebrities win awards is entertaining. Watching the costume designer and all the other non celebrity awards be awarded is simply not as entertaining. It's just not. The Oscars know this - a few years back they tried to cram the non celebrity awards into a weird presentations style (they did'nt let winners come t othe podium or something? I don't remember exactly). But that's the problem - they are pretentious and overly bloated but when they try to cut out bits people complain bitterly.

The grammys are worth watching because of the music - and a bunch of awards are given out not on TV.

The other thing about the Oscars no one wants to admit is that the ratings are higher when wildly popular movies win big. IE, higher ratings the year Titantic wn most awards, same with the Lord of the Rings.

People say having a wide range of nominees and winners show the medium as a whole is strong. Ok, sure. Yes, a lot of good stuff out there. But when there is a widening gap between what the public is seeing and what is actually winning, ratings slide down even further. When the 'oscar buzz movies' barely even come out in 2025, or are already preordained befoe they even come out and are vetted by a public (not just critics), there's a disconnect. Who cares.

Both of these things are unsolveable on their own, so ratings will continue to decline until everything is only streaming and then raitings will be even lower, but we won't know it.

Anonymous wrote:None of the movies are ones I’ve ever heard of except for award pitches.

You haven't heard of Sinners?

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Anonymous wrote:None of the movies are ones I’ve ever heard of except for award pitches.

Yep. Just like the Grammys, I only watch award shows if I actually care about a nominee. For many, many years now, I haven’t watched or even heard of most Oscar nominated films.

+1. I used to watch all, or nearly all, of the Best Picture nominees before they expanded the category. Now the last Best Picture nominees I saw were Parasite (2019) and Nomadland (2020), and I am lucky if I have seen even one of the nominees (e.g., Wicked (2024), Barbie (2023), The Banshees of Inisherin (2022)). There are a few more I want to see but haven't heard of many of the rest.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe another reason is that there are so many top celebrities no one cares about particular ones. In the old days, there were just a couple handfuls and it was all about them.

I would argue that content creators on YouTube are more famous than movie stars these days. The landscape of the entertainment industry has shifted dramatically in the last decade. Especially post-Covid.

I disagree. I love certain content creators but I don't delude myself that my favorite ones are famous in the way movie stars are. But it does depend on the demographic. Someone who cares about Mr Beast, the YouTuber with the most viewers worldwide, might not have heard of Nicole Kidman, for ex, but maybe they have heard of Tom Cruise, since a lot of Mr Beast fans are boys.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe another reason is that there are so many top celebrities no one cares about particular ones. In the old days, there were just a couple handfuls and it was all about them.

I would argue that content creators on YouTube are more famous than movie stars these days. The landscape of the entertainment industry has shifted dramatically in the last decade. Especially post-Covid.

Which ones? Seems it is mostly still actors / musicians / athletes who have the most followers on platforms. Who are you thinking are famous entertainers on youtube?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe another reason is that there are so many top celebrities no one cares about particular ones. In the old days, there were just a couple handfuls and it was all about them.

Who are the top celebrities? I keep seeing the same old ones, like Clooney, Pitt, Roberts. It’s like there aren’t any younger ones?

Agree it’s getting harder to be a top celebrity now that there is so much more content and it gets diluted in that people are into many different things and there’s so much more to choose from.

Scarlett Johansson is pretty big. Maybe Natalie Portman. Robert Pattinson and Jennifer Lawrence for the 30s. I think it will take a few years to see if anybody who is currently in their 20s will stick around to be a top celeb and have staying power.

Chalamet, Margo Robbie, Zendaya, DiCaprio (still)

Carey Mulligan

Anonymous wrote:None of the movies are ones I’ve ever heard of except for award pitches.

Yep. Just like the Grammys, I only watch award shows if I actually care about a nominee. For many, many years now, I haven’t watched or even heard of most Oscar nominated films.

None of the movies are ones I’ve ever heard of except for award pitches.