Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cars are dangerous too. So is walking in the city especially some intersections. You have to take some risks
Kids in cars are strapped in and surrounded by air bags and a two ton steel cage. Kids on bikes have nothing except their crappy little plastic helmets (and sometimes not even that).
I don't think there is enough data to really know what the odds are at this point. You have to consider the behavior in the whole context. With an ebike I am probably living a less vehicle centered life, traveling at much lower speeds, on much less busy streets. I am an adult experienced rider, not a child. And I am using a well maintained ebike that I am not modifying to go higher speeds. The odds being quoted in those sensationalist articles are not considering the use case we are discussing here.
Nonetheless, I do think it carries increased risks compared to other transit methods. I wish there was better data to know what those odds are.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cars are dangerous too. So is walking in the city especially some intersections. You have to take some risks
Kids in cars are strapped in and surrounded by air bags and a two ton steel cage. Kids on bikes have nothing except their crappy little plastic helmets (and sometimes not even that).
Anonymous wrote:Cars are dangerous too. So is walking in the city especially some intersections. You have to take some risks
Anonymous wrote:I commute by bike (don’t take my kids) and your questions are very route dependent.
Did you try the route on your own?
+1 on checking with the Facebook biking group, you’ll get better advice there. And rent a bike if you don’t have one yet and do the route yourself a few times before adding kids to the mix.
This way you’ll also get an idea if your kid can do on their own. It depends on age and the kid.
In general, as a commuter, you’d be traveling at a time when cars are also in a hurry and they have even less patience than at other times of day.
Anonymous wrote:Cars are dangerous too. So is walking in the city especially some intersections. You have to take some risks
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The protected bike lane along Irving is very nice.
I take my two kids on e-bike to school which we lotteried into.
Pros:
- Much faster and more reliable than any other mode of transit
- Easy to park anywhere
- Easy to carry large amounts of kid stuff
- I am less tired from having to make the trip 4 times a day!
Cons:
- Traffic, cars, bikes, pedestrians it really feels like no one follows the rules
- Construction - there is nearly always some form of construction blocking part of the way that lasts years
- Safety, I do feel like it comes with a much higher likelihood of an accident
- Repairs, these are inevitable and a pain with an ebike.
We ride pretty much in all weather. I invested in good rain and snow clothes. Occasionally we take the bus when the bike is broken or it is too icy.
I use side streets, protected bike lanes when possible and I tend to ride a low speeds without much assist even though I could go much faster.
OP here. Thanks for this.
You take two? How are they situation on the bike? How old are they, and when do you predict the oldest will be too big?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The protected bike lane along Irving is very nice.
I take my two kids on e-bike to school which we lotteried into.
Pros:
- Much faster and more reliable than any other mode of transit
- Easy to park anywhere
- Easy to carry large amounts of kid stuff
- I am less tired from having to make the trip 4 times a day!
Cons:
- Traffic, cars, bikes, pedestrians it really feels like no one follows the rules
- Construction - there is nearly always some form of construction blocking part of the way that lasts years
- Safety, I do feel like it comes with a much higher likelihood of an accident
- Repairs, these are inevitable and a pain with an ebike.
We ride pretty much in all weather. I invested in good rain and snow clothes. Occasionally we take the bus when the bike is broken or it is too icy.
I use side streets, protected bike lanes when possible and I tend to ride a low speeds without much assist even though I could go much faster.
Another con is cost. We don't have an e-bikes because they are expensive and seem to crap out faster than you'd expect given the cost. We have friends who are on their 3rd e-bike in 10 years. That's like 15k in e-bikes (they aren't buying the cheapest models). And doesn't even include upkeep costs.
People are always trying to convince us to get an e-bike but the economics don't make sense for us even though I see the benefit of having a way to travel with kids that is faster than walking but more eco-friendly and convenient than a car. If e-bikes were more similar in cost to a regular bike, that would be different.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You have to be insane to put a child on an e-bike. Do you let them play with guns too?
the OP meant the parents are on the e-bike hauling kids, not the kids themselves.
All of it seems incredibly dangerous. As a parent it really bothers me that people do this with their kids.
Anonymous wrote:The protected bike lane along Irving is very nice.
I take my two kids on e-bike to school which we lotteried into.
Pros:
- Much faster and more reliable than any other mode of transit
- Easy to park anywhere
- Easy to carry large amounts of kid stuff
- I am less tired from having to make the trip 4 times a day!
Cons:
- Traffic, cars, bikes, pedestrians it really feels like no one follows the rules
- Construction - there is nearly always some form of construction blocking part of the way that lasts years
- Safety, I do feel like it comes with a much higher likelihood of an accident
- Repairs, these are inevitable and a pain with an ebike.
We ride pretty much in all weather. I invested in good rain and snow clothes. Occasionally we take the bus when the bike is broken or it is too icy.
I use side streets, protected bike lanes when possible and I tend to ride a low speeds without much assist even though I could go much faster.
Anonymous wrote:The protected bike lane along Irving is very nice.
I take my two kids on e-bike to school which we lotteried into.
Pros:
- Much faster and more reliable than any other mode of transit
- Easy to park anywhere
- Easy to carry large amounts of kid stuff
- I am less tired from having to make the trip 4 times a day!
Cons:
- Traffic, cars, bikes, pedestrians it really feels like no one follows the rules
- Construction - there is nearly always some form of construction blocking part of the way that lasts years
- Safety, I do feel like it comes with a much higher likelihood of an accident
- Repairs, these are inevitable and a pain with an ebike.
We ride pretty much in all weather. I invested in good rain and snow clothes. Occasionally we take the bus when the bike is broken or it is too icy.
I use side streets, protected bike lanes when possible and I tend to ride a low speeds without much assist even though I could go much faster.
Anonymous wrote:We are not naysayers. Op is looking at a 3-4 mile cross town commute with no easy bike paths - Adams Morgan to ITDS.