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Anonymous wrote:This post feels like OP has an ulterior motive: Let's normalize hijabs. Let's get women used to being suppressed, and using "fashion" as the trojan horse to make it happen.

OP personally dislikes hijab but also dislikes paranoia against them and not brewing any global conspiracy for or against it.

OP never said this. Listing a variety of suppressive head coverings (that she would include a Nun's habit is a huge flag) as new ideas to promote fashion completely undermines her premise.

Beyond which, your premise is a version of mine. OP's point could be a manipulative way to try to undercut paranoia against the hijab. Whatever the case, I stand by my point that OP's post feels as if there is a motive that has nothing to do with actual fashion. And that's what causes my disconnect.

Funny, I was wondering why OP doesn't understand that a cute, fashionable hat is not the same thing as covering your head and neck with a veil for religious reasons. Even I understand that these are not the same things, and I'm Christian. If OP is an Orthodox Jew, then maybe she really is thinking along the lines of wigs. But then why mention Muslim women, nuns and the Amish, all of whom would never go for this (and what a terrible business model), so I dunno.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This post feels like OP has an ulterior motive: Let's normalize hijabs. Let's get women used to being suppressed, and using "fashion" as the trojan horse to make it happen.

OP personally dislikes hijab but also dislikes paranoia against them and not brewing any global conspiracy for or against it.

OP never said this. Listing a variety of suppressive head coverings (that she would include a Nun's habit is a huge flag) as new ideas to promote fashion completely undermines her premise.

Beyond which, your premise is a version of mine. OP's point could be a manipulative way to try to undercut paranoia against the hijab. Whatever the case, I stand by my point that OP's post feels as if there is a motive that has nothing to do with actual fashion. And that's what causes my disconnect.

I'm OP. I said ^^that and no this isn't meant to promote some silly conspiracy to put polyester fabric or synthetic wig on every head. I stand by my point that there is money to be made in head-ware and hair accessories, mainly in good quality hair extensions and wide brim head-ware with SPF.

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Anonymous wrote:The fashion industry has very much tapped into this. I have no idea what you're talking about.

This. You probably don’t shop for them.

Actually I did try to shop for a balding aunt and came to a conclusion that there is an untapped market for head-ware and branded wigs.

There are some very high end wigs. But if you don't have hair-issue reasons, or religious reasons to wear a wig, most women don't like the feel and/or how hot they can be.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This post feels like OP has an ulterior motive: Let's normalize hijabs. Let's get women used to being suppressed, and using "fashion" as the trojan horse to make it happen.

OP personally dislikes hijab but also dislikes paranoia against them and not brewing any global conspiracy for or against it.

OP never said this. Listing a variety of suppressive head coverings (that she would include a Nun's habit is a huge flag) as new ideas to promote fashion completely undermines her premise.

Beyond which, your premise is a version of mine. OP's point could be a manipulative way to try to undercut paranoia against the hijab. Whatever the case, I stand by my point that OP's post feels as if there is a motive that has nothing to do with actual fashion. And that's what causes my disconnect.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fashion industry has very much tapped into this. I have no idea what you're talking about.

This. You probably don’t shop for them.

Actually I did try to shop for a balding aunt and came to a conclusion that there is an untapped market for head-ware and branded wigs.

Anonymous wrote:This post feels like OP has an ulterior motive: Let's normalize hijabs. Let's get women used to being suppressed, and using "fashion" as the trojan horse to make it happen.

OP personally dislikes hijab but also dislikes paranoia against them and not brewing any global conspiracy for or against it.

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Anonymous wrote:Even for wigs, no global brand or elite house of fashion ever ventured into it.

Says a person who is unaware of humanity before 1965.

Look at historical art and photography.

Being without headwear is a modern anomaly.

Wearing wigs without reason is weird and probably unhygienic but should be available for people who can't accept change in looks due to thinning or loss of hair.

Anonymous wrote:The fashion industry has very much tapped into this. I have no idea what you're talking about.

This. You probably don’t shop for them.

This post feels like OP has an ulterior motive: Let's normalize hijabs. Let's get women used to being suppressed, and using "fashion" as the trojan horse to make it happen.

Anonymous wrote:There are various forms of head coverings women all over the world wear, including scarves, Amish kapp, Muslim hijab, Jewish mitpaḥat (or tichel), Christian nun habits or veils, the Indian dupatta or sari palu, etc.

Same way men have hats, turbans, topi, keffiyeh, cowboy hats, baseball caps, panama hats, Kippah/Yarmulke, kufi, fez, fedora, beanie etc.

Why fashion industry doesn't try to explore this area to make money? I feel like there is a lot of potential there.

There is. I have dozens of hats, and I’ve been shopping at Saks since they had spectacular hat boxes, Neiman Marcus, and Proper Topper since they had stores in Union Station, Georgetown, and near Dupont Circle. I’ve gone to shops that made custom hats to order, and even took a hat making class several years ago.

I’m curious OP, given that you, yourself noted that many women and men wear head coverings, what made you jump to the conclusion that fashion industries are somehow unaware of it? Are you a student with a deadline for a paper using DCUM as your non-AI source?

Anonymous wrote:Even for wigs, no global brand or elite house of fashion ever ventured into it.

Says a person who is unaware of humanity before 1965.

Look at historical art and photography.

Being without headwear is a modern anomaly.

Anonymous wrote:I think the people who have to wear them already have fashion options. I saw lots of muslim women wearing Hermes scarves when I was in Turkey.

I personally love my hair and don't want to cover it up. Even a wig seems like a lot of work. I'd want short hair if I were to wear a wig every day.

Yeah, that was my first thought. Hermes scarves are pretty flexible head coverings world-wide. QEll wore scarves and hats, and many women in her generation and beyond followed suit.

I think the people who have to wear them already have fashion options. I saw lots of muslim women wearing Hermes scarves when I was in Turkey.

I personally love my hair and don't want to cover it up. Even a wig seems like a lot of work. I'd want short hair if I were to wear a wig every day.

Anonymous wrote:I don't know about you, but Catholic nuns don't exactly scream fashion forward demographic to me ...

Yup but probably they do have shiny hair which were never exposed to ultraviolet rays.

At the end of the day, a veil is essentially world’s most reliable physical sunscreen, moisture retainer and pollution protectant. Saudi women who wear niqab, probably have better skin than their hijab wearing peers?