Anonymous wrote:What i got out of the article was BC it's considered elite. When I lived in Cambridge, no one ever really thought of BC at all. And now wealthy elites are scrambling to be admitted. Race to the bottom

BC is only elite if you’re only considering Catholic colleges and even then it’s not the top one.

Wait… you don’t know that “elite” (lolz) colleges have alternate campuses that allow admissions in Spring or later? Some overseas.

This is new to you?

Anonymous wrote:What i got out of the article was BC it's considered elite. When I lived in Cambridge, no one ever really thought of BC at all. And now wealthy elites are scrambling to be admitted. Race to the bottom

And here you are, from living in Cambridge to posting on DCUM. Not sure if you won the race, but you’ve reached the bottom. Congrats!

So it’s ok to accept unqualified students into Messina, with hopes of transferring to BC, as long as they aren’t rich?

What i got out of the article was BC it's considered elite. When I lived in Cambridge, no one ever really thought of BC at all. And now wealthy elites are scrambling to be admitted. Race to the bottom

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, but that’s not much of a “backdoor”….the article says the rejected students would be required to participate in a 2 year associates program! You’d have to be pretty desperate to go to BC to agree to those terms.

And the article claims 15 “of the most well-connected” applicants are chosen for this program? I find that hard to believe.

Incorrect. They have to complete 30 credits—one year— with the FGLI Messina students that are doing a full 2 year associates degree.

Wow.

I disagree with one of the first PPs. It is an excellent article.

My instinct is that BC created this program to keep donors happy when their kids absolutely do not make the cut. It is unappealing enough that they must have figured most would not take it, but they'd still be able to tell everyone that they got in to BC.

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Anonymous wrote:Who the hell pays 100K for their kid to go to BC? WTF. - MIT grad

How do you know someone went to MIT? They'll tell you.

DP.

If any US university can claim to be egalitarian, it’s MIT. The grads don’t really need to flex. I genuinely think the PP was surprised.

They were shocked at the price of entry to a mid opportunity.

Oh, please. It was a flex. It was "MIT is worth it, BC isn't."

I don't understand the outrage. Many state schools offer this route for admission. And it is not an ideal path for many students. Sounds like the offer is more of a soft rejection and most students probably would opt to go elsewhere, including the first gen students.

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Anonymous wrote:Who the hell pays 100K for their kid to go to BC? WTF. - MIT grad

How do you know someone went to MIT? They'll tell you.

DP.

If any US university can claim to be egalitarian, it’s MIT. The grads don’t really need to flex. I genuinely think the PP was surprised.

They were shocked at the price of entry to a mid opportunity.

Anonymous wrote:Who the hell pays 100K for their kid to go to BC? WTF. - MIT grad

How do you know someone went to MIT? They'll tell you.

Several Ivy schools do the same thing. Perhaps the Harvard Crimson could do a story about Harvard's Z List. That's about 60 students annually. These are overwhelmingly white, privileged, wealthy, and well-connected students from prominent families who are given a back door into Harvard after a gap year. The gap year is important because it allows Harvard to hide them from the usual reporting on freshman admissions. BC's method seems very tame in comparison.

Jesuit value? All day long.


Seriously? Every school accepts donations and trades such for access. Every single one.

The difference? Most don’t try to humiliate the low income, first gen in the process to hide the dumb kids.

Just own it. We all know how it works. And we can accept it, as funding must come from somewhere. But please don’t try to pretend you are virtuous in the process. You look cheap, BC.

I wish every school would straight up say that they will deny your talented child for a dim one with cash. That is the system they have built.

The lack of ownership is so disappointing. And insulting. The dumb kids should have asterisks next to their names.

We are a full pay family. Still grossed out by this.

Oh who are Messina students?

Anonymous wrote:Journalists have to start somewhere. Many start in college. Breaking the story of where the admissions office tried to hide the donors’ kids is a reasonably good scoop.

The tell? The ridiculous answers offered from the AOs to the reasonable questions about how high net worth families’ kids landed in a first gen bridge program.

But I appreciate your effort to discredit the paper. It is, indeed, revealing.

This is great reporting. No need to shoot the messenger.