Jay Manuel done effed up his face.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, the mean haircuts. Oh, and the full on sexual assault they just stood there, filmed, edited, and aired....

I’d be interested on the take of the others. She didn’t mention assault until now. Called her boyf and said we had sex…I am not saying it wasn’t an assault but I didn’t remember thinking it was back when I first watched it and if even worse footage exists, I wish they backed her and said it was wrong and she was assaulted.

We used to blame the woman for drinking too much.

Not the man, for having sex with someone who was unable to give consent.

(Can you imagine a woman of that size drinking two bottles of wine? No wonder she passed/blacked out. The show should have intervened.)

But she knew she’d had sex. That’s different from blacking out unless they told her. I just wish she was a connection bw how she and the show portrayed it and present time (they told me we’d had sex, i saw her unconscious, we saw him on top of her and she was out of it, etc.) again, absolutely no blaming her but I wish they connected the past to the present.

a) you are blaming her
b) she said she could "feel sex happening".
You only want to hear more so you can blame her harder. Take your misogyny and GFY, try supporting women who've been sexually assaulted instead of attempting to constantly revictimize them.

I think she said she "knew" sex was happening. But was in and out.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, the mean haircuts. Oh, and the full on sexual assault they just stood there, filmed, edited, and aired....

I’d be interested on the take of the others. She didn’t mention assault until now. Called her boyf and said we had sex…I am not saying it wasn’t an assault but I didn’t remember thinking it was back when I first watched it and if even worse footage exists, I wish they backed her and said it was wrong and she was assaulted.

We used to blame the woman for drinking too much.

Not the man, for having sex with someone who was unable to give consent.

(Can you imagine a woman of that size drinking two bottles of wine? No wonder she passed/blacked out. The show should have intervened.)

But she knew she’d had sex. That’s different from blacking out unless they told her. I just wish she was a connection bw how she and the show portrayed it and present time (they told me we’d had sex, i saw her unconscious, we saw him on top of her and she was out of it, etc.) again, absolutely no blaming her but I wish they connected the past to the present.

a) you are blaming her
b) she said she could "feel sex happening".
You only want to hear more so you can blame her harder. Take your misogyny and GFY, try supporting women who've been sexually assaulted instead of attempting to constantly revictimize them.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, the mean haircuts. Oh, and the full on sexual assault they just stood there, filmed, edited, and aired....

I’d be interested on the take of the others. She didn’t mention assault until now. Called her boyf and said we had sex…I am not saying it wasn’t an assault but I didn’t remember thinking it was back when I first watched it and if even worse footage exists, I wish they backed her and said it was wrong and she was assaulted.

We used to blame the woman for drinking too much.

Not the man, for having sex with someone who was unable to give consent.

(Can you imagine a woman of that size drinking two bottles of wine? No wonder she passed/blacked out. The show should have intervened.)

I believe they also casually mention the last time someone ate was "a salad yesterday". Plus jet lag, plus working all day, plus being underweight already, plus 2 bottles of wine, plus hot tub. This has "NO" written all over it =\

another thing missing was that season where they had to reshoot the finale b/c the actual winner tweeted something cryptic. Would love to have heard her story.

I was pretty young when this aired (and I watched it originally), I would definitely look at it differently now. I remember the whole Shandi thing, and they just framed it as her cheating, not getting assaulted. But looking back the whole rest of it makes sense now.

I was really sad that Mr Mok cared more about the "violent photoshoot" than about someone getting raped.

Anyways, as I was reviewing comments about this show, I saw mention of another doc coming out Mar 11, from some of the other women who weren't included. So i'll be watching for that.

Anonymous wrote:did anyone from the show become a top model? Yaya was smart and successful in her own right, Eva Pigford/Marcille has had some TV success but can't think of a legit successful model

In the first cycle, that tall thin one with short brown hair was the most working model for about a decade from ANTM.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, the mean haircuts. Oh, and the full on sexual assault they just stood there, filmed, edited, and aired....

I’d be interested on the take of the others. She didn’t mention assault until now. Called her boyf and said we had sex…I am not saying it wasn’t an assault but I didn’t remember thinking it was back when I first watched it and if even worse footage exists, I wish they backed her and said it was wrong and she was assaulted.

She passed out during which means she could not legally consent. I assume nobody thought that way 25 years ago, but we do now and that wasn't managed well in the docu thing.

did anyone from the show become a top model? Yaya was smart and successful in her own right, Eva Pigford/Marcille has had some TV success but can't think of a legit successful model

It was a train wreck fusion of the worst aspects of Real World and American Idol. None of these girls were going to become top models, it was just an opportunity to take a peek behind the curtain of a vapid culture with humiliating cosplay.

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, the mean haircuts. Oh, and the full on sexual assault they just stood there, filmed, edited, and aired....

I’d be interested on the take of the others. She didn’t mention assault until now. Called her boyf and said we had sex…I am not saying it wasn’t an assault but I didn’t remember thinking it was back when I first watched it and if even worse footage exists, I wish they backed her and said it was wrong and she was assaulted.

We used to blame the woman for drinking too much.

Not the man, for having sex with someone who was unable to give consent.

(Can you imagine a woman of that size drinking two bottles of wine? No wonder she passed/blacked out. The show should have intervened.)

But she knew she’d had sex. That’s different from blacking out unless they told her. I just wish she was a connection bw how she and the show portrayed it and present time (they told me we’d had sex, i saw her unconscious, we saw him on top of her and she was out of it, etc.) again, absolutely no blaming her but I wish they connected the past to the present.

I watched the first episode and didn’t really learn anything, and it felt gross watching these poor girls. Tyra’s idea was interesting but the show doesn’t age well. I forgot what a wretch Janice was, and I remembered that André Leon Talley was a judge at some point. Love him.

Nigel was hot back in the day, and I’d love to just see a show now with Jay and Miss J. I love them too!

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, the mean haircuts. Oh, and the full on sexual assault they just stood there, filmed, edited, and aired....

I’d be interested on the take of the others. She didn’t mention assault until now. Called her boyf and said we had sex…I am not saying it wasn’t an assault but I didn’t remember thinking it was back when I first watched it and if even worse footage exists, I wish they backed her and said it was wrong and she was assaulted.

We used to blame the woman for drinking too much.

Not the man, for having sex with someone who was unable to give consent.

(Can you imagine a woman of that size drinking two bottles of wine? No wonder she passed/blacked out. The show should have intervened.)

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Anonymous wrote:What's up with Miss J? Dude can't put a sentence together.

Just finished the series. I feel like such a d1ck.

Learn from this.