Not the same as summer camps since the weather doesn't allow it in winter.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some places have even longer summers than 10 weeks. When your in the middle of a tough winter you should especially long for a long summer. Gotta spend time outside when you can. If summer is shorter camps will be too. No camp runs the last week before school no matter how long summer is. So a 6 week summer means only 4 or 5 weeks of camps. Hardly any camps occur during other school breaks and single off days. A 10 week summer means 6-8 weeks of camp, 1-2 weeks vacation and possibly a week leftover for defusing for school.Anonymous wrote:Shorter summer, longer fall and spring breaks, get rid of the random PD days and replace with a week of PD at the end of the school year.
Learning loss over the summer is real. A month of camp is reasonable (or 2-3 weeks of camp plus a family holiday for those who can do it). 10 weeks off is not and results in boredom, backsliding, and is a major financial hit for families that comes all at once instead of spread out throughout the year. It also creates a planning stress because no camp lasts all summer, many families have to piecemeal the summer together.
Having longer breaks throughout the year combats fatigue and boredom for kids and teachers, getting rid of the lengthy summer break facilitates both teaching and learning.
If one month seems too short for people, then let's try 6 weeks of summer.
r
But OP wanting to lengthen summer flies in the face of both family practicalities and everything we know about learning and retention.
Do you live in DC? Because this is not true at all. There are plenty of options for day off camps.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Shorter summer, longer fall and spring breaks, get rid of the random PD days and replace with a week of PD at the end of the school year.
Learning loss over the summer is real. A month of camp is reasonable (or 2-3 weeks of camp plus a family holiday for those who can do it). 10 weeks off is not and results in boredom, backsliding, and is a major financial hit for families that comes all at once instead of spread out throughout the year. It also creates a planning stress because no camp lasts all summer, many families have to piecemeal the summer together.
Having longer breaks throughout the year combats fatigue and boredom for kids and teachers, getting rid of the lengthy summer break facilitates both teaching and learning.
If one month seems too short for people, then let's try 6 weeks of summer.
But OP wanting to lengthen summer flies in the face of both family practicalities and everything we know about learning and retention.
Who exactly is going to provide camps for 3 weeks in the summer, 2 random weeks during the late winter (esp. when the camp can't be outside), etc.? Nobody will be there for your desired schedule.
Trust me, the market will adapt - it is capitalism after all isn't it? Also, the PP said 6 weeks not 3 of summer.
Anonymous wrote:Some places have even longer summers than 10 weeks. When your in the middle of a tough winter you should especially long for a long summer. Gotta spend time outside when you can. If summer is shorter camps will be too. No camp runs the last week before school no matter how long summer is. So a 6 week summer means only 4 or 5 weeks of camps. Hardly any camps occur during other school breaks and single off days. A 10 week summer means 6-8 weeks of camp, 1-2 weeks vacation and possibly a week leftover for defusing for school.Anonymous wrote:Shorter summer, longer fall and spring breaks, get rid of the random PD days and replace with a week of PD at the end of the school year.
Learning loss over the summer is real. A month of camp is reasonable (or 2-3 weeks of camp plus a family holiday for those who can do it). 10 weeks off is not and results in boredom, backsliding, and is a major financial hit for families that comes all at once instead of spread out throughout the year. It also creates a planning stress because no camp lasts all summer, many families have to piecemeal the summer together.
Having longer breaks throughout the year combats fatigue and boredom for kids and teachers, getting rid of the lengthy summer break facilitates both teaching and learning.
If one month seems too short for people, then let's try 6 weeks of summer.
r
But OP wanting to lengthen summer flies in the face of both family practicalities and everything we know about learning and retention.
Anonymous wrote:seems like a lot of the staff PD days line up with long weekends. I'm guessing that not all staff have PD those days and find those times convenient for days off.
They haven't had a half day since 2018 but unfortunately that extends the year and doesn't give off additional breaks either. With 180 days scheduled the year is longer to have 4 records days on non-student days than if they were doubled. If they went by hours they could avoid half days and still not extend things.Anonymous wrote:I like a shorter summer.
I want:
-Give kids two approved religious absences for religious observance.
-Fewer random days off
-a week long break in February
-a week long break in October (or fall)
-stop tying spring break to Easter. It wasn't tied with Easter until this group got released. The middle year is fine but the other two spring breaks are wrongly placed.
-no half days ever
Some places have even longer summers than 10 weeks. When your in the middle of a tough winter you should especially long for a long summer. Gotta spend time outside when you can. If summer is shorter camps will be too. No camp runs the last week before school no matter how long summer is. So a 6 week summer means only 4 or 5 weeks of camps. Hardly any camps occur during other school breaks and single off days. A 10 week summer means 6-8 weeks of camp, 1-2 weeks vacation and possibly a week leftover for defusing for school.Anonymous wrote:Shorter summer, longer fall and spring breaks, get rid of the random PD days and replace with a week of PD at the end of the school year.
Learning loss over the summer is real. A month of camp is reasonable (or 2-3 weeks of camp plus a family holiday for those who can do it). 10 weeks off is not and results in boredom, backsliding, and is a major financial hit for families that comes all at once instead of spread out throughout the year. It also creates a planning stress because no camp lasts all summer, many families have to piecemeal the summer together.
Having longer breaks throughout the year combats fatigue and boredom for kids and teachers, getting rid of the lengthy summer break facilitates both teaching and learning.
If one month seems too short for people, then let's try 6 weeks of summer.
r
But OP wanting to lengthen summer flies in the face of both family practicalities and everything we know about learning and retention.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Shorter summer, longer fall and spring breaks, get rid of the random PD days and replace with a week of PD at the end of the school year.
Learning loss over the summer is real. A month of camp is reasonable (or 2-3 weeks of camp plus a family holiday for those who can do it). 10 weeks off is not and results in boredom, backsliding, and is a major financial hit for families that comes all at once instead of spread out throughout the year. It also creates a planning stress because no camp lasts all summer, many families have to piecemeal the summer together.
Having longer breaks throughout the year combats fatigue and boredom for kids and teachers, getting rid of the lengthy summer break facilitates both teaching and learning.
If one month seems too short for people, then let's try 6 weeks of summer.
But OP wanting to lengthen summer flies in the face of both family practicalities and everything we know about learning and retention.
Who exactly is going to provide camps for 3 weeks in the summer, 2 random weeks during the late winter (esp. when the camp can't be outside), etc.? Nobody will be there for your desired schedule.
Trust me, the market will adapt - it is capitalism after all isn't it? Also, the PP said 6 weeks not 3 of summer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Shorter summer, longer fall and spring breaks, get rid of the random PD days and replace with a week of PD at the end of the school year.
Learning loss over the summer is real. A month of camp is reasonable (or 2-3 weeks of camp plus a family holiday for those who can do it). 10 weeks off is not and results in boredom, backsliding, and is a major financial hit for families that comes all at once instead of spread out throughout the year. It also creates a planning stress because no camp lasts all summer, many families have to piecemeal the summer together.
Having longer breaks throughout the year combats fatigue and boredom for kids and teachers, getting rid of the lengthy summer break facilitates both teaching and learning.
If one month seems too short for people, then let's try 6 weeks of summer.
But OP wanting to lengthen summer flies in the face of both family practicalities and everything we know about learning and retention.
Who exactly is going to provide camps for 3 weeks in the summer, 2 random weeks during the late winter (esp. when the camp can't be outside), etc.? Nobody will be there for your desired schedule.
Anonymous wrote:Shorter summer, longer fall and spring breaks, get rid of the random PD days and replace with a week of PD at the end of the school year.
Learning loss over the summer is real. A month of camp is reasonable (or 2-3 weeks of camp plus a family holiday for those who can do it). 10 weeks off is not and results in boredom, backsliding, and is a major financial hit for families that comes all at once instead of spread out throughout the year. It also creates a planning stress because no camp lasts all summer, many families have to piecemeal the summer together.
Having longer breaks throughout the year combats fatigue and boredom for kids and teachers, getting rid of the lengthy summer break facilitates both teaching and learning.
If one month seems too short for people, then let's try 6 weeks of summer.
But OP wanting to lengthen summer flies in the face of both family practicalities and everything we know about learning and retention.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of us like a shorter summer. I like having fewer weeks of camp to arrange and pay for.
I wish they would go truly year round so that we have only had a month of summer, spring break was two weeks, there was a true fall break, etc.
DCPS intentionally seeks to keep summers shorter in order to keep kids occupied and reduce child are burden/costs on working parents.
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So people would be in school during 8 or 9 weeks of summer when they should be at the beach, camps on vacation etc.
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Similar number of non school days except they have R/PD days and no school on election day. Is child care magically free on those days?
How about during a fall break and double spring break?
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Don't get me wrong I would not be against a two week spring break but 1 month of summer would be awful.
No one is on vacation or at the beach for 8-9 weeks of summer. And if they somehow are, they can go to the beach for 5 weeks in the summer, and go skiing for 3 weeks in january instead, or to the lake for 3 weeks in the fall, or to europe for 3 weeks in the spring.