State flagship with a hospital for clinicals and lab research positions.

Anonymous wrote:Two who do know how to quote properly. Your posts are getting longer and longer.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DC1 will be the 3rd generation MD in my family. In our experience any school that is a R1, because it offers the best opportunities for research and hours. Then it's the GPA and major. A computer science or engineering major from Ohio State will have a better shot than a psychology or biology major from Harvard, at similar gpa and mcat. My child was an Ivy undergrad and he's at a top med school, with a lot of students from state schools.
Hopkins, Emory, Washington U, WIliams are incredibly cut throat, so unless your child is a superstar, I'd avoid these schools for premed.
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That’s not my experience at all but I guess it depends on the med school. Yes, gpa and mcat are paramount but if two kids have 4.0 and high mcat/research chops the sociology major from an ivy will do better than the chem major from state flagship or random LAC (unfortunately, imo.) [/quote]

It’s like everything else, there is a lot of nuance. We have three family members in med school (niece, nephew, and daughter) with very different results. Two from T20 with perfect/near perfect grades one with a great MCAT, and one with a solid MCAT. One Biochem and one Neuroscience. The third is from a top NESCAC with very good grades, excellent MCAT, Neuro major. The third is also an athlete with trips to NCAA tournament, all conference awards, top 20 ranked team.

The first two had mixed results with the one with the perfect gpa and great score getting multiple offers from very good schools and a couple of interviews from top schools. The one with the good but not great MCAT struggled but finally landed.

The athlete did the best of the three in terms of interviews and where they ended up. The gpa was the weakest of the three, MCAT was very good but in the middle of the group. It really felt like the athlete card carried a very large advantage for her relative to the other two. They also had outstanding school support and the advisors were very confident that the results would be strong.[/quote]
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Any gap years?[/quote]

All of them took gap years. The athlete really needed one as the Spread out their sciences and also went abroad for a semester. The other two took their MCAT after junior year. One needed to retake, the other didn’t need a gap year but wanted one and worked as a scribe.

Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t matter, if you are good you will get there. If not, you won’t. The process will keep you honest. BS won’t get you much.

Phone call will
UMD DIL of a friend got in because her FIL made a call

This was a few years ago she’s a physician now I would not go to her

Two who do know how to quote properly. Your posts are getting longer and longer.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DC1 will be the 3rd generation MD in my family. In our experience any school that is a R1, because it offers the best opportunities for research and hours. Then it's the GPA and major. A computer science or engineering major from Ohio State will have a better shot than a psychology or biology major from Harvard, at similar gpa and mcat. My child was an Ivy undergrad and he's at a top med school, with a lot of students from state schools.
Hopkins, Emory, Washington U, WIliams are incredibly cut throat, so unless your child is a superstar, I'd avoid these schools for premed.
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That’s not my experience at all but I guess it depends on the med school. Yes, gpa and mcat are paramount but if two kids have 4.0 and high mcat/research chops the sociology major from an ivy will do better than the chem major from state flagship or random LAC (unfortunately, imo.) [/quote]

It’s like everything else, there is a lot of nuance. We have three family members in med school (niece, nephew, and daughter) with very different results. Two from T20 with perfect/near perfect grades one with a great MCAT, and one with a solid MCAT. One Biochem and one Neuroscience. The third is from a top NESCAC with very good grades, excellent MCAT, Neuro major. The third is also an athlete with trips to NCAA tournament, all conference awards, top 20 ranked team.

The first two had mixed results with the one with the perfect gpa and great score getting multiple offers from very good schools and a couple of interviews from top schools. The one with the good but not great MCAT struggled but finally landed.

The athlete did the best of the three in terms of interviews and where they ended up. The gpa was the weakest of the three, MCAT was very good but in the middle of the group. It really felt like the athlete card carried a very large advantage for her relative to the other two. They also had outstanding school support and the advisors were very confident that the results would be strong.[/quote]
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Any gap years?

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DC1 will be the 3rd generation MD in my family. In our experience any school that is a R1, because it offers the best opportunities for research and hours. Then it's the GPA and major. A computer science or engineering major from Ohio State will have a better shot than a psychology or biology major from Harvard, at similar gpa and mcat. My child was an Ivy undergrad and he's at a top med school, with a lot of students from state schools.
Hopkins, Emory, Washington U, WIliams are incredibly cut throat, so unless your child is a superstar, I'd avoid these schools for premed.
[/quote]

That’s not my experience at all but I guess it depends on the med school. Yes, gpa and mcat are paramount but if two kids have 4.0 and high mcat/research chops the sociology major from an ivy will do better than the chem major from state flagship or random LAC (unfortunately, imo.) [/quote]

It’s like everything else, there is a lot of nuance. We have three family members in med school (niece, nephew, and daughter) with very different results. Two from T20 with perfect/near perfect grades one with a great MCAT, and one with a solid MCAT. One Biochem and one Neuroscience. The third is from a top NESCAC with very good grades, excellent MCAT, Neuro major. The third is also an athlete with trips to NCAA tournament, all conference awards, top 20 ranked team.

The first two had mixed results with the one with the perfect gpa and great score getting multiple offers from very good schools and a couple of interviews from top schools. The one with the good but not great MCAT struggled but finally landed.

The athlete did the best of the three in terms of interviews and where they ended up. The gpa was the weakest of the three, MCAT was very good but in the middle of the group. It really felt like the athlete card carried a very large advantage for her relative to the other two. They also had outstanding school support and the advisors were very confident that the results would be strong.[/quote]

Any gap years?

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DC1 will be the 3rd generation MD in my family. In our experience any school that is a R1, because it offers the best opportunities for research and hours. Then it's the GPA and major. A computer science or engineering major from Ohio State will have a better shot than a psychology or biology major from Harvard, at similar gpa and mcat. My child was an Ivy undergrad and he's at a top med school, with a lot of students from state schools.
Hopkins, Emory, Washington U, WIliams are incredibly cut throat, so unless your child is a superstar, I'd avoid these schools for premed.
[/quote]

That’s not my experience at all but I guess it depends on the med school. Yes, gpa and mcat are paramount but if two kids have 4.0 and high mcat/research chops the sociology major from an ivy will do better than the chem major from state flagship or random LAC (unfortunately, imo.) [/quote]
I find this very hard to believe.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DC1 will be the 3rd generation MD in my family. In our experience any school that is a R1, because it offers the best opportunities for research and hours. Then it's the GPA and major. A computer science or engineering major from Ohio State will have a better shot than a psychology or biology major from Harvard, at similar gpa and mcat. My child was an Ivy undergrad and he's at a top med school, with a lot of students from state schools.
Hopkins, Emory, Washington U, WIliams are incredibly cut throat, so unless your child is a superstar, I'd avoid these schools for premed.
[/quote]

That’s not my experience at all but I guess it depends on the med school. Yes, gpa and mcat are paramount but if two kids have 4.0 and high mcat/research chops the sociology major from an ivy will do better than the chem major from state flagship or random LAC (unfortunately, imo.) [/quote]

It’s like everything else, there is a lot of nuance. We have three family members in med school (niece, nephew, and daughter) with very different results. Two from T20 with perfect/near perfect grades one with a great MCAT, and one with a solid MCAT. One Biochem and one Neuroscience. The third is from a top NESCAC with very good grades, excellent MCAT, Neuro major. The third is also an athlete with trips to NCAA tournament, all conference awards, top 20 ranked team.

The first two had mixed results with the one with the perfect gpa and great score getting multiple offers from very good schools and a couple of interviews from top schools. The one with the good but not great MCAT struggled but finally landed.

The athlete did the best of the three in terms of interviews and where they ended up. The gpa was the weakest of the three, MCAT was very good but in the middle of the group. It really felt like the athlete card carried a very large advantage for her relative to the other two. They also had outstanding school support and the advisors were very confident that the results would be strong.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DC1 will be the 3rd generation MD in my family. In our experience any school that is a R1, because it offers the best opportunities for research and hours. Then it's the GPA and major. A computer science or engineering major from Ohio State will have a better shot than a psychology or biology major from Harvard, at similar gpa and mcat. My child was an Ivy undergrad and he's at a top med school, with a lot of students from state schools.
Hopkins, Emory, Washington U, WIliams are incredibly cut throat, so unless your child is a superstar, I'd avoid these schools for premed.
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That’s not my experience at all but I guess it depends on the med school. Yes, gpa and mcat are paramount [b]but if two kids have 4.0 and high mcat/research chops the sociology major from an ivy will do better than the chem major from state flagship or random LAC (unfortunately, imo.)[/b] [/quote]

This may or may not be true but certainly not as important as PP stated. Keep in mind that by when your kid applies to med school, the med school admission folks know a lot about your kid - what research have they done, what clinical experience do they have, what community service activities have they done, recommendation letters...etc. The quality of these other accomplishments will trump which school your kid attended. If all these things are equal, maybe PP has a point.

Anonymous wrote:HYS>top LACs>brown, penn, Dartmouth >other lacs>T20 (washu, Emory, Vandy, Hopkins)

Generally accurate and the differences are relatively small for acceptance but the chances for a top med school are a bit higher for your first three buckets.

[quote=Anonymous]DC1 will be the 3rd generation MD in my family. In our experience any school that is a R1, because it offers the best opportunities for research and hours. Then it's the GPA and major. A computer science or engineering major from Ohio State will have a better shot than a psychology or biology major from Harvard, at similar gpa and mcat. My child was an Ivy undergrad and he's at a top med school, with a lot of students from state schools.
Hopkins, Emory, Washington U, WIliams are incredibly cut throat, so unless your child is a superstar, I'd avoid these schools for premed.
[/quote]

That’s not my experience at all but I guess it depends on the med school. Yes, gpa and mcat are paramount but if two kids have 4.0 and high mcat/research chops the sociology major from an ivy will do better than the chem major from state flagship or random LAC (unfortunately, imo.)

DC1 will be the 3rd generation MD in my family. In our experience any school that is a R1, because it offers the best opportunities for research and hours. Then it's the GPA and major. A computer science or engineering major from Ohio State will have a better shot than a psychology or biology major from Harvard, at similar gpa and mcat. My child was an Ivy undergrad and he's at a top med school, with a lot of students from state schools.
Hopkins, Emory, Washington U, WIliams are incredibly cut throat, so unless your child is a superstar, I'd avoid these schools for premed.

HYS>top LACs>brown, penn, Dartmouth >other lacs>T20 (washu, Emory, Vandy, Hopkins)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has been discussed a million times. Newsflash: there won't be any consensus.

This is rather juvenile. No one needs to use "Newsflash". Just use regular words to provide emphasis.

Occasionally posters say “duh”. Real maturity.