If you yourself are spiritual you'll be welcoming and inclusive of them, regardless of their level of religiosity because your conduct is about your religiosity not theirs. Being judgmental or gossiping defeats the purpose of fasting to enlighten yourself. Fasting isn't just about skipping meals.

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Anonymous wrote:I have family members that are not devout, they don’t pray or fast but they do go for Eid prayers, dress up and visit family. It’s a little awkward when they come for iftar but have not been fasting but we all just look the other way.

So you invite people over and then judge them? Yikes, not nice.

Speaking of not nice. Your comment wasn't very nice. Neither is this one. Neither of us is being nice. I'm not being nice in response to your comment, which in my view was interpretive

How was my comment not nice? You sound unhinged now. Part of this celebration includes charity, kindness and self improvement - including refraining from gossip. So you'd actually be doing yourself a disservice to engage in these types of behaviours

PP sounds unhinged? I don't think so. I think you're being overly defensive, including the winking smiley face.

The person being over defensive is the one defending being a judgy gossipy goose during a time of self improvement and reflection.

Anonymous wrote:So it’s just performative? Waste of time.

All religious "things" are just performative. No one knows if it "works" until you die, so you're just performing until then.

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Anonymous wrote:I have family members that are not devout, they don’t pray or fast but they do go for Eid prayers, dress up and visit family. It’s a little awkward when they come for iftar but have not been fasting but we all just look the other way.

So you invite people over and then judge them? Yikes, not nice.

Speaking of not nice. Your comment wasn't very nice. Neither is this one. Neither of us is being nice. I'm not being nice in response to your comment, which in my view was interpretive

How was my comment not nice? You sound unhinged now. Part of this celebration includes charity, kindness and self improvement - including refraining from gossip. So you'd actually be doing yourself a disservice to engage in these types of behaviours

PP sounds unhinged? I don't think so. I think you're being overly defensive, including the winking smiley face.

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Anonymous wrote:So it’s just performative? Waste of time.

Religion (all religion) in a nutshell.

if you believe something it’s not performative.

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Anonymous wrote:So it’s just performative? Waste of time.

Muslims are a spectrum not monolithic. Its simply performative for some all the time, always spiritual all the time for others and in between from time to time for the rest.

Like followers of every other religion. Not all the followers do all the things right all the time.

Anonymous wrote:So it’s just performative? Waste of time.

Muslims are a spectrum not monolithic. Its simply performative for some all the time, always spiritual all the time for others and in between from time to time for the rest.

Anonymous wrote:I have family members that are not devout, they don’t pray or fast but they do go for Eid prayers, dress up and visit family. It’s a little awkward when they come for iftar but have not been fasting but we all just look the other way.

Someone misunderstood the assignment of Ramadan... and it's not those non-fasting family members.

Anonymous wrote:So it’s just performative? Waste of time.

Religion (all religion) in a nutshell.

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Anonymous wrote:I have family members that are not devout, they don’t pray or fast but they do go for Eid prayers, dress up and visit family. It’s a little awkward when they come for iftar but have not been fasting but we all just look the other way.

So you invite people over and then judge them? Yikes, not nice.

Speaking of not nice. Your comment wasn't very nice. Neither is this one. Neither of us is being nice. I'm not being nice in response to your comment, which in my view was interpretive

How was my comment not nice? You sound unhinged now. Part of this celebration includes charity, kindness and self improvement - including refraining from gossip. So you'd actually be doing yourself a disservice to engage in these types of behaviours

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Anonymous wrote:I have family members that are not devout, they don’t pray or fast but they do go for Eid prayers, dress up and visit family. It’s a little awkward when they come for iftar but have not been fasting but we all just look the other way.

So you invite people over and then judge them? Yikes, not nice.

Speaking of not nice. Your comment wasn't very nice. Neither is this one. Neither of us is being nice. I'm not being nice in response to your comment, which in my view was interpretive

Anonymous wrote:I have family members that are not devout, they don’t pray or fast but they do go for Eid prayers, dress up and visit family. It’s a little awkward when they come for iftar but have not been fasting but we all just look the other way.

So you invite people over and then judge them? Yikes, not nice.

Anyone looking for health benefits or discipline training can observe Ramadan. Anyone looking for fun and food, can celebrate Eid. You don't need to be practicing Muslim or even Muslim. I'm Muslim but it never stopped me from joining religious holidays of my non Muslim friends and neighbors.

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Anonymous wrote:I have family members that are not devout, they don’t pray or fast but they do go for Eid prayers, dress up and visit family. It’s a little awkward when they come for iftar but have not been fasting but we all just look the other way.

Glad to hear that are Cultural muslims. I, a cultural Christian, have tended to think of all Muslims as being alike.

Me too -- and realizing it's like thinking that all Christians are bible thumpers. I certainly wasn't, when I was a practicing Christian. I'm a cultural Christian now.

So it’s just performative? Waste of time.