Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 20:32     Subject: If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

Anonymous wrote:
We all believe in something, OP. Even if it's not religion. I don't think humanity can exist without some humans holding strong beliefs in something. And those that hold strong beliefs might be ready to suffer for them... for good or ill.


Did you purposely not answer the question?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 20:30     Subject: If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

Anonymous wrote:Christians are the highest contributors to charity and community volunteering. Life would a lot different without them.


Without Christians giving to Charities, we'd just have good people giving to charities which would hopefully include the former Christians. Could be, though, that Christians only would give to and volunteer for CHRISTIAN causes, thus helping them get into heaven, which is every Christian's goal.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 19:27     Subject: If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?


We all believe in something, OP. Even if it's not religion. I don't think humanity can exist without some humans holding strong beliefs in something. And those that hold strong beliefs might be ready to suffer for them... for good or ill.

Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 19:03     Subject: If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

Anonymous wrote:Better

Christians in the US support a child sexual abuser and a criminal liar. While hiding behind their bibles. They support controlling women as well.
The answers is religion is a cult therefore no need for that crap



They are not real Christians.

I say worse, because what appears to be the alternative is self-absorption and no moral center - in most cases that I have observed. Moral “flexibility” if you will. No real guidelines for what makes up a worthwhile life.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 19:00     Subject: If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Christians are the highest contributors to charity and community volunteering. Life would a lot different without them.


If this is even true, why are Christians generous? To assure their place in heaven?


I think the PP was thinking of Evangelicals in US. It's community and peer pressure.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 19:00     Subject: If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

It's definitely worse.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 18:59     Subject: Re:If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It depends on what you believe. Given that most major religions subjugate women and vilify anyone who is not heterosexual, I'm leaning toward "better."


Don't know if you've ever worked in an org that is heavy on the gays + girlboss combo, but it ain't better. Been there done that.


So it ain't better. It ain't worse, either.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 18:57     Subject: If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

Questions like this are always depressing to witness just how ignorant people are about human history and cultural anthropology.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 18:56     Subject: If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

Anonymous wrote:Christians are the highest contributors to charity and community volunteering. Life would a lot different without them.


If this is even true, why are Christians generous? To assure their place in heaven?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 18:55     Subject: Re:If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

Anonymous wrote:People are just inherently evil and bad.


Some people are inherently evil and bad -- I think. Certainly not all people, but the bad ones often win out.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 18:43     Subject: If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

Anonymous wrote:Christians are the highest contributors to charity and community volunteering. Life would a lot different without them.


Source?

Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 18:42     Subject: If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

Indonesia, Kenya and Singapore are the most proportionately charitable countries. https://www.cafonline.org/insights/research/world-giving-index

In Islam, zakat is the largest single source of faith based charity. 2.5% of savings.
https://islamic-relief.org/zakat/

Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 18:24     Subject: If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

Christians are the highest contributors to charity and community volunteering. Life would a lot different without them.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 18:16     Subject: Re:If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

Anonymous wrote:It depends on what you believe. Given that most major religions subjugate women and vilify anyone who is not heterosexual, I'm leaning toward "better."


Don't know if you've ever worked in an org that is heavy on the gays + girlboss combo, but it ain't better. Been there done that.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2026 18:14     Subject: Re:If there were no believers would the world be better or just as bad for different reasons?

It depends on what you believe. Given that most major religions subjugate women and vilify anyone who is not heterosexual, I'm leaning toward "better."