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Anonymous wrote:Are there any parents out there interested in organizing around tech use in MS? My kid is already mid-elementary so while I totally support any effort to get tech out of younger grades (solidarity), I'm also looking down the pike to MS and would love to see more focus on physical books. Also if there are parents on here with experiences in DCPS MS regarding tech, what can you share? Our IB is Stuart-Hobson, which I'm enthusiastic about, but I've also heard from neighbor kids that it's a lot of chrome book use.

You cannot get “tech out of schools” any more than you can get tech out of the workplace. for example I doubt you want your kid to have to hand write everything through MS and HS; and I doubt you want to block the use of the Internet for bona fide research and reading.

Instead of a nebulous and annoying campaign against “tech” you need to focus on specific subjects and how they are taught. For example, dig into how math is being delivered at SH.

Good job misquoting me, judging me for opinions I did not express, and then repeating what I said only with different words and claiming it was your idea. Am I at work? Are you my male colleague who is 10 years younger, less qualified, and yet bizarrely overconfident in his wrongheaded approach to work? It's uncanny.

Are you the PK3 mom who thinks she knows everything? Good luck to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any parents out there interested in organizing around tech use in MS? My kid is already mid-elementary so while I totally support any effort to get tech out of younger grades (solidarity), I'm also looking down the pike to MS and would love to see more focus on physical books. Also if there are parents on here with experiences in DCPS MS regarding tech, what can you share? Our IB is Stuart-Hobson, which I'm enthusiastic about, but I've also heard from neighbor kids that it's a lot of chrome book use.

You cannot get “tech out of schools” any more than you can get tech out of the workplace. for example I doubt you want your kid to have to hand write everything through MS and HS; and I doubt you want to block the use of the Internet for bona fide research and reading.

Instead of a nebulous and annoying campaign against “tech” you need to focus on specific subjects and how they are taught. For example, dig into how math is being delivered at SH.

There are school that still incorporate a LOT of handwriting -- in DC that is private and parochial schools and BASIS and Latin.

DCPS students are being completely left behind and parents should fight this. I would join, but we already left for one of the above.

My kids who have been through Hardy have had 99% of their ELA assignments all hand written. Once in a blue moon they have to type out an essay but only once they have hand written it first.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any parents out there interested in organizing around tech use in MS? My kid is already mid-elementary so while I totally support any effort to get tech out of younger grades (solidarity), I'm also looking down the pike to MS and would love to see more focus on physical books. Also if there are parents on here with experiences in DCPS MS regarding tech, what can you share? Our IB is Stuart-Hobson, which I'm enthusiastic about, but I've also heard from neighbor kids that it's a lot of chrome book use.

You cannot get “tech out of schools” any more than you can get tech out of the workplace. for example I doubt you want your kid to have to hand write everything through MS and HS; and I doubt you want to block the use of the Internet for bona fide research and reading.

Instead of a nebulous and annoying campaign against “tech” you need to focus on specific subjects and how they are taught. For example, dig into how math is being delivered at SH.

There are school that still incorporate a LOT of handwriting -- in DC that is private and parochial schools and BASIS and Latin.

DCPS students are being completely left behind and parents should fight this. I would join, but we already left for one of the above.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you need to focus on the curriculum and ineffectiveness of “Ed tech” as opposed to portraying the image of a precious Montessori mom who believes that even one episode of Teletubbies will pollute her child’s brain.

The issue is not a teacher putting a dance video on the smart screen - that is actually probably a fun and good use of screens. The actual issue is that the screen/algorithm based instructional methods replacing paper *do not work.* Even more of an alarm bell should sound when the school starts telling you that the instruction will be “self paced” with your child on a device.

So the upshot is - no, you cannot act like an entitled parent and cry that your baby is being “exposed to screens.” Because computers are obviously here to stay in the world. You need to focus on how Ed tech has replaced books and paper based education despite being catastrophically less effective - particularly in math.

This is a gross misrepresentation of what most people want. And sure if it’s the equivalent to 3-15 minutes a day sure.

But sometimes the books are read on the screen, all the morning meeting songs are on the screen, the movement breaks, whole group lessons,etc. -it can add up to 30-60 minutes easily.

To not take this seriously is to discredit the vast amount of research coming out. My generation (gen z) is the first one said to be less capable than the previous generations in terms of executive functioning skills and the like. It will only get worse.

I’m not advocating for Montessori or Waldorf -especially since both have ties to eugenics or forest school. Please don’t use reductive arguments.

I simply don’t think it’s appropriate for classrooms with children 3-5 years old to be made to have laptop carts with iPads in them. Especially when it’s not developmentally appropriate or necessary.

NP and sometimes I wonder if teachers realize they are showing that they aren’t really needed. If everything you do is from
YouTube/smartboard, why pay someone 90K for their expertise as a teacher? You could pay someone with less education a fraction of that and just dictate which YouTube videos to play.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any parents out there interested in organizing around tech use in MS? My kid is already mid-elementary so while I totally support any effort to get tech out of younger grades (solidarity), I'm also looking down the pike to MS and would love to see more focus on physical books. Also if there are parents on here with experiences in DCPS MS regarding tech, what can you share? Our IB is Stuart-Hobson, which I'm enthusiastic about, but I've also heard from neighbor kids that it's a lot of chrome book use.

You cannot get “tech out of schools” any more than you can get tech out of the workplace. for example I doubt you want your kid to have to hand write everything through MS and HS; and I doubt you want to block the use of the Internet for bona fide research and reading.

Instead of a nebulous and annoying campaign against “tech” you need to focus on specific subjects and how they are taught. For example, dig into how math is being delivered at SH.

There are school that still incorporate a LOT of handwriting -- in DC that is private and parochial schools and BASIS and Latin.

DCPS students are being completely left behind and parents should fight this. I would join, but we already left for one of the above.

I do think kids should hand write enough to be legible but once they have lengthy writing assignments, then they need to be using computers. The bigger differences with Basis and Latin are likely how the curriculum is delivered and the teaching methods, not the fact that kids hand write. I certainly would not expect that my older kid be forced to hand write any sort of meaningful writing assignments.

BASIS and Latin students learn how to take handwritten notes during class. I know this because I have a student at one and good friends at the other. The comprehension when you handwrite what you are supposed to be learning is just miles above reading it on a screen.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any parents out there interested in organizing around tech use in MS? My kid is already mid-elementary so while I totally support any effort to get tech out of younger grades (solidarity), I'm also looking down the pike to MS and would love to see more focus on physical books. Also if there are parents on here with experiences in DCPS MS regarding tech, what can you share? Our IB is Stuart-Hobson, which I'm enthusiastic about, but I've also heard from neighbor kids that it's a lot of chrome book use.

You cannot get “tech out of schools” any more than you can get tech out of the workplace. for example I doubt you want your kid to have to hand write everything through MS and HS; and I doubt you want to block the use of the Internet for bona fide research and reading.

Instead of a nebulous and annoying campaign against “tech” you need to focus on specific subjects and how they are taught. For example, dig into how math is being delivered at SH.

Good job misquoting me, judging me for opinions I did not express, and then repeating what I said only with different words and claiming it was your idea. Am I at work? Are you my male colleague who is 10 years younger, less qualified, and yet bizarrely overconfident in his wrongheaded approach to work? It's uncanny.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any parents out there interested in organizing around tech use in MS? My kid is already mid-elementary so while I totally support any effort to get tech out of younger grades (solidarity), I'm also looking down the pike to MS and would love to see more focus on physical books. Also if there are parents on here with experiences in DCPS MS regarding tech, what can you share? Our IB is Stuart-Hobson, which I'm enthusiastic about, but I've also heard from neighbor kids that it's a lot of chrome book use.

You cannot get “tech out of schools” any more than you can get tech out of the workplace. for example I doubt you want your kid to have to hand write everything through MS and HS; and I doubt you want to block the use of the Internet for bona fide research and reading.

Instead of a nebulous and annoying campaign against “tech” you need to focus on specific subjects and how they are taught. For example, dig into how math is being delivered at SH.

There are school that still incorporate a LOT of handwriting -- in DC that is private and parochial schools and BASIS and Latin.

DCPS students are being completely left behind and parents should fight this. I would join, but we already left for one of the above.

I do think kids should hand write enough to be legible but once they have lengthy writing assignments, then they need to be using computers. The bigger differences with Basis and Latin are likely how the curriculum is delivered and the teaching methods, not the fact that kids hand write. I certainly would not expect that my older kid be forced to hand write any sort of meaningful writing assignments.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any parents out there interested in organizing around tech use in MS? My kid is already mid-elementary so while I totally support any effort to get tech out of younger grades (solidarity), I'm also looking down the pike to MS and would love to see more focus on physical books. Also if there are parents on here with experiences in DCPS MS regarding tech, what can you share? Our IB is Stuart-Hobson, which I'm enthusiastic about, but I've also heard from neighbor kids that it's a lot of chrome book use.

You cannot get “tech out of schools” any more than you can get tech out of the workplace. for example I doubt you want your kid to have to hand write everything through MS and HS; and I doubt you want to block the use of the Internet for bona fide research and reading.

Instead of a nebulous and annoying campaign against “tech” you need to focus on specific subjects and how they are taught. For example, dig into how math is being delivered at SH.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you need to focus on the curriculum and ineffectiveness of “Ed tech” as opposed to portraying the image of a precious Montessori mom who believes that even one episode of Teletubbies will pollute her child’s brain.

The issue is not a teacher putting a dance video on the smart screen - that is actually probably a fun and good use of screens. The actual issue is that the screen/algorithm based instructional methods replacing paper *do not work.* Even more of an alarm bell should sound when the school starts telling you that the instruction will be “self paced” with your child on a device.

So the upshot is - no, you cannot act like an entitled parent and cry that your baby is being “exposed to screens.” Because computers are obviously here to stay in the world. You need to focus on how Ed tech has replaced books and paper based education despite being catastrophically less effective - particularly in math.

This is a gross misrepresentation of what most people want. And sure if it’s the equivalent to 3-15 minutes a day sure.

But sometimes the books are read on the screen, all the morning meeting songs are on the screen, the movement breaks, whole group lessons,etc. -it can add up to 30-60 minutes easily.

To not take this seriously is to discredit the vast amount of research coming out. My generation (gen z) is the first one said to be less capable than the previous generations in terms of executive functioning skills and the like. It will only get worse.

I’m not advocating for Montessori or Waldorf -especially since both have ties to eugenics or forest school. Please don’t use reductive arguments.

I simply don’t think it’s appropriate for classrooms with children 3-5 years old to be made to have laptop carts with iPads in them. Especially when it’s not developmentally appropriate or necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there any parents out there interested in organizing around tech use in MS? My kid is already mid-elementary so while I totally support any effort to get tech out of younger grades (solidarity), I'm also looking down the pike to MS and would love to see more focus on physical books. Also if there are parents on here with experiences in DCPS MS regarding tech, what can you share? Our IB is Stuart-Hobson, which I'm enthusiastic about, but I've also heard from neighbor kids that it's a lot of chrome book use.

You cannot get “tech out of schools” any more than you can get tech out of the workplace. for example I doubt you want your kid to have to hand write everything through MS and HS; and I doubt you want to block the use of the Internet for bona fide research and reading.

Instead of a nebulous and annoying campaign against “tech” you need to focus on specific subjects and how they are taught. For example, dig into how math is being delivered at SH.

There are school that still incorporate a LOT of handwriting -- in DC that is private and parochial schools and BASIS and Latin.

DCPS students are being completely left behind and parents should fight this. I would join, but we already left for one of the above.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there any parents out there interested in organizing around tech use in MS? My kid is already mid-elementary so while I totally support any effort to get tech out of younger grades (solidarity), I'm also looking down the pike to MS and would love to see more focus on physical books. Also if there are parents on here with experiences in DCPS MS regarding tech, what can you share? Our IB is Stuart-Hobson, which I'm enthusiastic about, but I've also heard from neighbor kids that it's a lot of chrome book use.

You cannot get “tech out of schools” any more than you can get tech out of the workplace. for example I doubt you want your kid to have to hand write everything through MS and HS; and I doubt you want to block the use of the Internet for bona fide research and reading.

Instead of a nebulous and annoying campaign against “tech” you need to focus on specific subjects and how they are taught. For example, dig into how math is being delivered at SH.

Anonymous wrote:Are there any parents out there interested in organizing around tech use in MS? My kid is already mid-elementary so while I totally support any effort to get tech out of younger grades (solidarity), I'm also looking down the pike to MS and would love to see more focus on physical books. Also if there are parents on here with experiences in DCPS MS regarding tech, what can you share? Our IB is Stuart-Hobson, which I'm enthusiastic about, but I've also heard from neighbor kids that it's a lot of chrome book use.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you need to focus on the curriculum and ineffectiveness of “Ed tech” as opposed to portraying the image of a precious Montessori mom who believes that even one episode of Teletubbies will pollute her child’s brain.

The issue is not a teacher putting a dance video on the smart screen - that is actually probably a fun and good use of screens. The actual issue is that the screen/algorithm based instructional methods replacing paper *do not work.* Even more of an alarm bell should sound when the school starts telling you that the instruction will be “self paced” with your child on a device.

So the upshot is - no, you cannot act like an entitled parent and cry that your baby is being “exposed to screens.” Because computers are obviously here to stay in the world. You need to focus on how Ed tech has replaced books and paper based education despite being catastrophically less effective - particularly in math.

This is a gross misrepresentation of what most people want. And sure if it’s the equivalent to 3-15 minutes a day sure.

But sometimes the books are read on the screen, all the morning meeting songs are on the screen, the movement breaks, whole group lessons,etc. -it can add up to 30-60 minutes easily.

To not take this seriously is to discredit the vast amount of research coming out. My generation (gen z) is the first one said to be less capable than the previous generations in terms of executive functioning skills and the like. It will only get worse.

I’m not advocating for Montessori or Waldorf -especially since both have ties to eugenics or forest school. Please don’t use reductive arguments.

I simply don’t think it’s appropriate for classrooms with children 3-5 years old to be made to have laptop carts with iPads in them. Especially when it’s not developmentally appropriate or necessary.

Anonymous wrote:I think you need to focus on the curriculum and ineffectiveness of “Ed tech” as opposed to portraying the image of a precious Montessori mom who believes that even one episode of Teletubbies will pollute her child’s brain.

The issue is not a teacher putting a dance video on the smart screen - that is actually probably a fun and good use of screens. The actual issue is that the screen/algorithm based instructional methods replacing paper *do not work.* Even more of an alarm bell should sound when the school starts telling you that the instruction will be “self paced” with your child on a device.

So the upshot is - no, you cannot act like an entitled parent and cry that your baby is being “exposed to screens.” Because computers are obviously here to stay in the world. You need to focus on how Ed tech has replaced books and paper based education despite being catastrophically less effective - particularly in math.