Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:$325,000 after Fed, State, and Payroll Taxes is likely around $250,000 take home. Assuming you are contributing fully to 401(k) and Roth IRAs, that's $64,000 a year to savings, which is a good target at just about 20%. That leaves $186,000 for spending, or $15,500 a month.
I don't know what kind of loan you are looking at or the home insurance/HOA/Property Tax fees, but using your number of $6,500, you'd be putting 42% of your take-home pay to your PITI. Using a general metric that fixed costs should not be more than 60% of your take-home pay, that would leave only $2,800 for other fixed costs like car payments, gas, daycare, groceries, out of pocket medical, pets, insurance, home maintenance, and all utilities - electric, gas, phone, water, sewer. That's very tight, probably impossible. So your fixed costs would be high compared to your take home pay.
That would put stress on your ability to do other savings like college and brokerage accounts, plus limit vacation fund, entertainment, eating out, clothing, gifts, and other discretionary purchasing.
It just depends what kind of life you want to live. If you think you will love this house and it's worth putting a huge chunk of your earnings to it every month, I think you will manage. If your income grows, even better, and things will loosen up. But I do think it will feel tight. You'll probably have to save less than 20% to retirement and take smaller vacations.
Run some numbers yourself. See if that's the life you want.
The metric I have heard is that PITI should not be more than 25% of net.
I would not do this deal in a million years but I also have no desire to live in a TH and be house poor.
Granted sounds like OP is counting on inheritance money and doesn’t need the appreciation she would see from a SFH.
Anonymous wrote: live in a 1960s N Arlington rambler where the entire value is in the land.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know we can but risk averse spouse is nervous so curious what others think.
HHI $325k split evenly
2 working parents, 1 child
House price $1.3M, down payment $450k, PITI ~$6500
No other debt
Plans for any more kids?
Emergency fund / additional savings or investments?
Retirement on track?
College savings handled?
Expecting any inheritance?
Basically I agree with your risk averse spouse that this is a big mortgage payment on your income and pretty anxiety-inducing, but I could imagine a world where I'm wrong and your personal cushion makes it fine.
No more kids. Ahead on retirement and college. Expecting a lot in inheritance, hopefully not for a while though. To the other PP above, house won’t require any maintenance for a while as it’s new.
$1.3M for a new house gives me pause - is it in an “undesirable” area? Most new construction around here is high 1s even in areas zoned to Justice etc. Make sure if you’re stretching you’re in an area where you could easily sell if worst comes to worst.
OP here - it’s a townhouse in a very highly rated district.
PP. That’s a KEY missing detail. Townhouses appreciate much, much more slowly vs SFH’s because the value is in the land (yes, even for luxury builds). My tax assessment from Arlington is $900K for the lot alone for 7,000 square feet of land.
It being a TH makes this a very foolish decision especially since you’re financially stretching and it’s not like you’re wealthy retirees looking for lower maintenance etc. where you’re OK with the minimal appreciation tradeoff. You’re also signing up for HOA fees. I wouldn’t do this - at all.
Find a SFH that you can make work for the next 5 years (ideally with a decent amount of land so you can always sell to a developer or even redevelop it yourself down the road). I know it’s hard as hell to afford houses here now and at your HHI it feels like your $ should go further but unfortunately inflation has been a killer and $500K is the new $350K or so.
Anonymous wrote:$325,000 after Fed, State, and Payroll Taxes is likely around $250,000 take home. Assuming you are contributing fully to 401(k) and Roth IRAs, that's $64,000 a year to savings, which is a good target at just about 20%. That leaves $186,000 for spending, or $15,500 a month.
I don't know what kind of loan you are looking at or the home insurance/HOA/Property Tax fees, but using your number of $6,500, you'd be putting 42% of your take-home pay to your PITI. Using a general metric that fixed costs should not be more than 60% of your take-home pay, that would leave only $2,800 for other fixed costs like car payments, gas, daycare, groceries, out of pocket medical, pets, insurance, home maintenance, and all utilities - electric, gas, phone, water, sewer. That's very tight, probably impossible. So your fixed costs would be high compared to your take home pay.
That would put stress on your ability to do other savings like college and brokerage accounts, plus limit vacation fund, entertainment, eating out, clothing, gifts, and other discretionary purchasing.
It just depends what kind of life you want to live. If you think you will love this house and it's worth putting a huge chunk of your earnings to it every month, I think you will manage. If your income grows, even better, and things will loosen up. But I do think it will feel tight. You'll probably have to save less than 20% to retirement and take smaller vacations.
Run some numbers yourself. See if that's the life you want.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know we can but risk averse spouse is nervous so curious what others think.
HHI $325k split evenly
2 working parents, 1 child
House price $1.3M, down payment $450k, PITI ~$6500
No other debt
Plans for any more kids?
Emergency fund / additional savings or investments?
Retirement on track?
College savings handled?
Expecting any inheritance?
Basically I agree with your risk averse spouse that this is a big mortgage payment on your income and pretty anxiety-inducing, but I could imagine a world where I'm wrong and your personal cushion makes it fine.
No more kids. Ahead on retirement and college. Expecting a lot in inheritance, hopefully not for a while though. To the other PP above, house won’t require any maintenance for a while as it’s new.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know we can but risk averse spouse is nervous so curious what others think.
HHI $325k split evenly
2 working parents, 1 child
House price $1.3M, down payment $450k, PITI ~$6500
No other debt
Plans for any more kids?
Emergency fund / additional savings or investments?
Retirement on track?
College savings handled?
Expecting any inheritance?
Basically I agree with your risk averse spouse that this is a big mortgage payment on your income and pretty anxiety-inducing, but I could imagine a world where I'm wrong and your personal cushion makes it fine.
No more kids. Ahead on retirement and college. Expecting a lot in inheritance, hopefully not for a while though. To the other PP above, house won’t require any maintenance for a while as it’s new.
$1.3M for a new house gives me pause - is it in an “undesirable” area? Most new construction around here is high 1s even in areas zoned to Justice etc. Make sure if you’re stretching you’re in an area where you could easily sell if worst comes to worst.
OP here - it’s a townhouse in a very highly rated district.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know we can but risk averse spouse is nervous so curious what others think.
HHI $325k split evenly
2 working parents, 1 child
House price $1.3M, down payment $450k, PITI ~$6500
No other debt
Plans for any more kids?
Emergency fund / additional savings or investments?
Retirement on track?
College savings handled?
Expecting any inheritance?
Basically I agree with your risk averse spouse that this is a big mortgage payment on your income and pretty anxiety-inducing, but I could imagine a world where I'm wrong and your personal cushion makes it fine.
No more kids. Ahead on retirement and college. Expecting a lot in inheritance, hopefully not for a while though. To the other PP above, house won’t require any maintenance for a while as it’s new.
$1.3M for a new house gives me pause - is it in an “undesirable” area? Most new construction around here is high 1s even in areas zoned to Justice etc. Make sure if you’re stretching you’re in an area where you could easily sell if worst comes to worst.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know we can but risk averse spouse is nervous so curious what others think.
HHI $325k split evenly
2 working parents, 1 child
House price $1.3M, down payment $450k, PITI ~$6500
No other debt
Plans for any more kids?
Emergency fund / additional savings or investments?
Retirement on track?
College savings handled?
Expecting any inheritance?
Basically I agree with your risk averse spouse that this is a big mortgage payment on your income and pretty anxiety-inducing, but I could imagine a world where I'm wrong and your personal cushion makes it fine.
No more kids. Ahead on retirement and college. Expecting a lot in inheritance, hopefully not for a while though. To the other PP above, house won’t require any maintenance for a while as it’s new.
$1.3M for a new house gives me pause - is it in an “undesirable” area? Most new construction around here is high 1s even in areas zoned to Justice etc. Make sure if you’re stretching you’re in an area where you could easily sell if worst comes to worst.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know we can but risk averse spouse is nervous so curious what others think.
HHI $325k split evenly
2 working parents, 1 child
House price $1.3M, down payment $450k, PITI ~$6500
No other debt
Plans for any more kids?
Emergency fund / additional savings or investments?
Retirement on track?
College savings handled?
Expecting any inheritance?
Basically I agree with your risk averse spouse that this is a big mortgage payment on your income and pretty anxiety-inducing, but I could imagine a world where I'm wrong and your personal cushion makes it fine.
No more kids. Ahead on retirement and college. Expecting a lot in inheritance, hopefully not for a while though. To the other PP above, house won’t require any maintenance for a while as it’s new.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know we can but risk averse spouse is nervous so curious what others think.
HHI $325k split evenly
2 working parents, 1 child
House price $1.3M, down payment $450k, PITI ~$6500
No other debt
Plans for any more kids?
Emergency fund / additional savings or investments?
Retirement on track?
College savings handled?
Expecting any inheritance?
Basically I agree with your risk averse spouse that this is a big mortgage payment on your income and pretty anxiety-inducing, but I could imagine a world where I'm wrong and your personal cushion makes it fine.
Anonymous wrote:I know we can but risk averse spouse is nervous so curious what others think.
HHI $325k split evenly
2 working parents, 1 child
House price $1.3M, down payment $450k, PITI ~$6500
No other debt