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Anonymous wrote:Ask him which ones he's interested in and look into them. You know your kid the best. Mine had a protein powder phase, which I supported by buying what I chose, but it has passed. There are lots of supplements out there that we're not so knowledgeable about as medicine is pushed. Not all of it is bad.

Agree in the sense that it’s an individual decision. I do think most of it is bad. The protein powder industry is problematic. Kids should focus on getting what they need through real food. But, a lot of adults take this stuff too and, if you’re one of them, letting your kid try it too is reasonable for your family.

Well, the real problem is that real food is real nutrient deficient. And I'm saying that as someone who only consumes full-fat dairy, and only use butter or tallow to fry. There are so many chemicals in foods, because the food industry is after profit, not nutrient density and it has gotten really bad in the last 40 years. Research now shows that fruits and vegetables all have significant decrease nutrients (vitamins and minerals) in the last 100 years, some up to 60%, meaning we're in essence eating colored water. What has been done to the meat industry with antibiotics is better known, as well as the fiasco with toxic herbicides (and glyphosate is still used in commercial agriculture).

Fair enough. I hear you here. Not sure I want to turn to another similar industry for the solution but I get what you’re saying.

Grow our own from heritage seeds? Buy farm share cows from organic producers? We’re stuck.

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Anonymous wrote:Ask him which ones he's interested in and look into them. You know your kid the best. Mine had a protein powder phase, which I supported by buying what I chose, but it has passed. There are lots of supplements out there that we're not so knowledgeable about as medicine is pushed. Not all of it is bad.

Agree in the sense that it’s an individual decision. I do think most of it is bad. The protein powder industry is problematic. Kids should focus on getting what they need through real food. But, a lot of adults take this stuff too and, if you’re one of them, letting your kid try it too is reasonable for your family.

Well, the real problem is that real food is real nutrient deficient. And I'm saying that as someone who only consumes full-fat dairy, and only use butter or tallow to fry. There are so many chemicals in foods, because the food industry is after profit, not nutrient density and it has gotten really bad in the last 40 years. Research now shows that fruits and vegetables all have significant decrease nutrients (vitamins and minerals) in the last 100 years, some up to 60%, meaning we're in essence eating colored water. What has been done to the meat industry with antibiotics is better known, as well as the fiasco with toxic herbicides (and glyphosate is still used in commercial agriculture).

Anonymous wrote:Ask him which ones he's interested in and look into them. You know your kid the best. Mine had a protein powder phase, which I supported by buying what I chose, but it has passed. There are lots of supplements out there that we're not so knowledgeable about as medicine is pushed. Not all of it is bad.

Agree in the sense that it’s an individual decision. I do think most of it is bad. The protein powder industry is problematic. Kids should focus on getting what they need through real food. But, a lot of adults take this stuff too and, if you’re one of them, letting your kid try it too is reasonable for your family.

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Ask him which ones he's interested in and look into them. You know your kid the best. Mine had a protein powder phase, which I supported by buying what I chose, but it has passed. There are lots of supplements out there that we're not so knowledgeable about as medicine is pushed. Not all of it is bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Boys are horrible!

Shall we start a discussion about teen girl eating disorders, middle school girls ruining their faces by using skin treatments like retin A designed for middle aged women, teen girls and young women getting injecting foreign substances into their bodies such lip fillers and botox on their beautiful youthful skin, and young women mutilating their bodies through plastic surgery in the name of beauty?

Misogynist.

“ The peptide with big claims but limited data
You may not have heard of BPC-157 — but maybe you have. The peptide, like many that have gained traction with MAHA, is having a moment. Popular podcasters, wellness clinics, and patients are gravitating to the chemical for relief from health conditions that aren’t always well-managed with traditional treatments. But there’s one problem: “The amount of hype to evidence is just so skewed, it’s crazy,” physician and researcher Flynn McGuire said. He put it even more bluntly in an email: BPC-157 “should not be used by humans.”

Too late. In a thorough write-up, Sara Talpos spoke with people who have taken the peptide. Some described benefits like helping the body heal more quickly and reducing pain. But others report side effects like full-body itchiness, intense anxiety, or anhedonia. Anecdotal evidence like this is some of the only data we have on what these drugs can do in humans.

Read more from Sara about how BPC-157 became a buzzy, mainstream MAHA supplement. As Talpos writes, the story begins in a laboratory in post-communist Croatia. We’re publishing this investigation by Undark, where Sara is a contributing editor.”

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Anonymous wrote:I blame the manosohere.

Oh absolutely. I used the term "looksmaxing" to him and he was sort of shocked I knew the concept.

NP. I don't want to go to the manosphere. I really don't. So if someone could tell me the major red flags they are feeding teen boys here I would greatly appreciate it so that I can address.

We already address a lot of mainstream things (you know like the end of a Family Ties or Full House episode) but don't know how to anticipate and redirect on all this manosphere crap that I don't know about. Do I need to subscribe to Esquire

Don’t worry too much about the term manosphere here. Whatever you’re seeing aimed at women and teen girls for weight loss, muscle gain, supplements, vitamins, outfits, etc., he’s seeing aimed at his exact demographic.

And he’s open to being influenced by those influencers just like anyone else.

Exactly.

Honestly, the stuff that is being pushed on young women is far more damaging and extensive. Study after study has proven that the overwhelmingly negative effects of this tik tok instacrap on young women far exceeds the damage and negative effects on any other demographic, including the "manosphere"

Real men are natty. The rest are weak - sayeth my 16 year old DS.

Anonymous wrote:I have a 13 year old. He wants workout supplements, protein powder, and expensive cologne. On his phone I see him taking selfies of his muscles (not a lot, but still). I was more prepared for body image stuff with DD, whereas this came as more of a surprise.

Phrases like "I've done my research" are very triggering to me these days. Currently fighting over how many hours of TikTok he should expose himself to. (I keep setting up time limits and they keep not working.)

This is the boy equivalent of girls ruining their skin and bodies taking "beauty" advice from tiktok influencers

Anonymous wrote:Boys are horrible!

Shall we start a discussion about teen girl eating disorders, middle school girls ruining their faces by using skin treatments like retin A designed for middle aged women, teen girls and young women getting injecting foreign substances into their bodies such lip fillers and botox on their beautiful youthful skin, and young women mutilating their bodies through plastic surgery in the name of beauty?

I have a 13 year old. He wants workout supplements, protein powder, and expensive cologne. On his phone I see him taking selfies of his muscles (not a lot, but still). I was more prepared for body image stuff with DD, whereas this came as more of a surprise.

Phrases like "I've done my research" are very triggering to me these days. Currently fighting over how many hours of TikTok he should expose himself to. (I keep setting up time limits and they keep not working.)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame the manosohere.

Oh absolutely. I used the term "looksmaxing" to him and he was sort of shocked I knew the concept.

NP. I don't want to go to the manosphere. I really don't. So if someone could tell me the major red flags they are feeding teen boys here I would greatly appreciate it so that I can address.

We already address a lot of mainstream things (you know like the end of a Family Ties or Full House episode) but don't know how to anticipate and redirect on all this manosphere crap that I don't know about. Do I need to subscribe to Esquire

Don’t worry too much about the term manosphere here. Whatever you’re seeing aimed at women and teen girls for weight loss, muscle gain, supplements, vitamins, outfits, etc., he’s seeing aimed at his exact demographic.

And he’s open to being influenced by those influencers just like anyone else.

This is a hard no

Boys are horrible!