Anonymous wrote:Not sure as of this evening, but KAH locations that were closed today included Barnsley, Bayard Rustin, Cannon Road, Fairland, Flower Valley, Garrett Park, Meadow Hall, and Westover-- the other 18 were open.

KAH at Willian Tyler Page was open, but at an alternate location….the school itself had no heat for some reason. Fingers crossed they’re able to get that fixed over the weekend.

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Anonymous wrote:The sidewalk off darnestown road and quince orchard road to Quince Orchard HS were not plowed at all yesterday. It is quite dangerous for kids/teens to walk on the road to get to school.

Then walk on the snow. I'm sure there are plenty of footsteps to follow.

Snow is manageable. Being pushed into traffic because sidewalks weren’t plowed is not. The concern is that unplowed sidewalks force students into the roadway. That’s why sidewalks are supposed to be cleared.

They don't force them onto the road. They can walk on sidewalks that haven't been cleared. They can walk on lawns.

Have you been outside or even looked around? No, they cannot. My front lawn is blocked by a mountain of snow the front wheeler dumped onto it clearing the street. There are big blocks of snow and ice everywhere else from clearing a path to my front door/clearing the driveway. We don't have sidewalks so the only place to walk has always been the street. I live half a block from an elementary school. The street one block up and around the corner hasn't been touched (also no sidewalks). So no, you cannot walk on lawns/yards.

The school itself looks like it's been plowed (it's a KAH location mentioned above) but that doesn't help if the neighborhood is still a mess.

I don't understand the jump to "no, you cannot walk on lawns/yards." Sure you can. Very few yards have fences right up against the street. You just don't want to.

You’re in every thread, commenting any chance you can get about how stupid everyone else is and how safe it is and blah blah blah. Good for you, now please STFU and let people with brains do the critical thinking.

DP. Critical thinking would involve looking outside and seeing that the world is open. It takes a little more time to get place, walking and driving are a little harder, but people are doing it. Sitting in your house looking at piles of snow and thinking "it's impossible!" isn't critical thinking, it's mental illness.

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Anonymous wrote:The sidewalk off darnestown road and quince orchard road to Quince Orchard HS were not plowed at all yesterday. It is quite dangerous for kids/teens to walk on the road to get to school.

Then walk on the snow. I'm sure there are plenty of footsteps to follow.

Snow is manageable. Being pushed into traffic because sidewalks weren’t plowed is not. The concern is that unplowed sidewalks force students into the roadway. That’s why sidewalks are supposed to be cleared.

They don't force them onto the road. They can walk on sidewalks that haven't been cleared. They can walk on lawns.

Have you been outside or even looked around? No, they cannot. My front lawn is blocked by a mountain of snow the front wheeler dumped onto it clearing the street. There are big blocks of snow and ice everywhere else from clearing a path to my front door/clearing the driveway. We don't have sidewalks so the only place to walk has always been the street. I live half a block from an elementary school. The street one block up and around the corner hasn't been touched (also no sidewalks). So no, you cannot walk on lawns/yards.

The school itself looks like it's been plowed (it's a KAH location mentioned above) but that doesn't help if the neighborhood is still a mess.

Have you even been outside? There are absolutely paths through the snow from other people walking through it. Yes, it takes more time. Yes, you have to be more careful than usual. You might even get a little bit of snow in your shoes while you do it. But you can definitely manage. And the tracks demonstrate that.

When your argument becomes “kids can easily get to school by jumping fences, traipsing through yards, walking on unknown paths bc one other person did it- there are tracks!” You’ve lost your argument. Goodbye.

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Anonymous wrote:The sidewalk off darnestown road and quince orchard road to Quince Orchard HS were not plowed at all yesterday. It is quite dangerous for kids/teens to walk on the road to get to school.

Then walk on the snow. I'm sure there are plenty of footsteps to follow.

Snow is manageable. Being pushed into traffic because sidewalks weren’t plowed is not. The concern is that unplowed sidewalks force students into the roadway. That’s why sidewalks are supposed to be cleared.

They don't force them onto the road. They can walk on sidewalks that haven't been cleared. They can walk on lawns.

Have you been outside or even looked around? No, they cannot. My front lawn is blocked by a mountain of snow the front wheeler dumped onto it clearing the street. There are big blocks of snow and ice everywhere else from clearing a path to my front door/clearing the driveway. We don't have sidewalks so the only place to walk has always been the street. I live half a block from an elementary school. The street one block up and around the corner hasn't been touched (also no sidewalks). So no, you cannot walk on lawns/yards.

The school itself looks like it's been plowed (it's a KAH location mentioned above) but that doesn't help if the neighborhood is still a mess.

I don't understand the jump to "no, you cannot walk on lawns/yards." Sure you can. Very few yards have fences right up against the street. You just don't want to.

You’re in every thread, commenting any chance you can get about how stupid everyone else is and how safe it is and blah blah blah. Good for you, now please STFU and let people with brains do the critical thinking.

I'm appreciative that they were slow to reopen for the reasons described in this thread. But more time out of school just isn't tenable. It's going to be below zero all week. The problems present now will also be there a week from now.

I think they should institute some flexibility. For instance, starting 2 hours late but allowing drop off from normal start time until the delayed start time to reduce traffic. Maybe even putting busses on a different schedule spanning that full window (though this may be difficult given that they haven't telegraphed it ahead of time).

I wonder if they could enlist MOCO law enforcement to do traffic control for the morning and afternoon hours?

Ideally, MCPS will use this opportunity to come up with an emergency plan for severe weather in the coming year-- for instance, building it into some employees' contracts that on certain emergency days they are assigned crossing guard duty or bus stop duty to keep kids safe in the morning before school.

If MCPS uses the three days, then we can even have one more snow day without going into the next week. There's a special provision for waiving a Monday.

I bet if someone spray painted dicks and slurs onto the ice then the county would have it removed within an hour of it being noticed.

Unusual problems call for unusual solutions

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Anonymous wrote:The sidewalk off darnestown road and quince orchard road to Quince Orchard HS were not plowed at all yesterday. It is quite dangerous for kids/teens to walk on the road to get to school.

Then walk on the snow. I'm sure there are plenty of footsteps to follow.

Snow is manageable. Being pushed into traffic because sidewalks weren’t plowed is not. The concern is that unplowed sidewalks force students into the roadway. That’s why sidewalks are supposed to be cleared.

They don't force them onto the road. They can walk on sidewalks that haven't been cleared. They can walk on lawns.

Have you been outside or even looked around? No, they cannot. My front lawn is blocked by a mountain of snow the front wheeler dumped onto it clearing the street. There are big blocks of snow and ice everywhere else from clearing a path to my front door/clearing the driveway. We don't have sidewalks so the only place to walk has always been the street. I live half a block from an elementary school. The street one block up and around the corner hasn't been touched (also no sidewalks). So no, you cannot walk on lawns/yards.

The school itself looks like it's been plowed (it's a KAH location mentioned above) but that doesn't help if the neighborhood is still a mess.

I don't understand the jump to "no, you cannot walk on lawns/yards." Sure you can. Very few yards have fences right up against the street. You just don't want to.

We just aren't going to agree. No, on my street, you cannot, not the entire length of the street, not without having to climb up and slide down mountains of ice and onto the street or into parked cars. It is unreasonable and unsafe to expect anyone to do so.

Again you're not going to agree, so I'll leave it at that.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure as of this evening, but KAH locations that were closed today included Barnsley, Bayard Rustin, Cannon Road, Fairland, Flower Valley, Garrett Park, Meadow Hall, and Westover-- the other 18 were open.

Does the fact that daycares were able to open mean that the school is plowed enough to manage multiple buses, and teacher parking? Or does it just mean that there is enough parking for daycare staff, and a route for cars to drop off?

I wouldn't assume that open daycare means that the school is plowed well enough to open as a school.

MCPS won't provide a status list for the schools, but I the schools around me have cleared parking lots, driveways, and entrances.

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Anonymous wrote:The sidewalk off darnestown road and quince orchard road to Quince Orchard HS were not plowed at all yesterday. It is quite dangerous for kids/teens to walk on the road to get to school.

Then walk on the snow. I'm sure there are plenty of footsteps to follow.

Snow is manageable. Being pushed into traffic because sidewalks weren’t plowed is not. The concern is that unplowed sidewalks force students into the roadway. That’s why sidewalks are supposed to be cleared.

They don't force them onto the road. They can walk on sidewalks that haven't been cleared. They can walk on lawns.

Have you been outside or even looked around? No, they cannot. My front lawn is blocked by a mountain of snow the front wheeler dumped onto it clearing the street. There are big blocks of snow and ice everywhere else from clearing a path to my front door/clearing the driveway. We don't have sidewalks so the only place to walk has always been the street. I live half a block from an elementary school. The street one block up and around the corner hasn't been touched (also no sidewalks). So no, you cannot walk on lawns/yards.

The school itself looks like it's been plowed (it's a KAH location mentioned above) but that doesn't help if the neighborhood is still a mess.

I don't understand the jump to "no, you cannot walk on lawns/yards." Sure you can. Very few yards have fences right up against the street. You just don't want to.

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Anonymous wrote:The sidewalk off darnestown road and quince orchard road to Quince Orchard HS were not plowed at all yesterday. It is quite dangerous for kids/teens to walk on the road to get to school.

Then walk on the snow. I'm sure there are plenty of footsteps to follow.

Snow is manageable. Being pushed into traffic because sidewalks weren’t plowed is not. The concern is that unplowed sidewalks force students into the roadway. That’s why sidewalks are supposed to be cleared.

They don't force them onto the road. They can walk on sidewalks that haven't been cleared. They can walk on lawns.

Have you been outside or even looked around? No, they cannot. My front lawn is blocked by a mountain of snow the front wheeler dumped onto it clearing the street. There are big blocks of snow and ice everywhere else from clearing a path to my front door/clearing the driveway. We don't have sidewalks so the only place to walk has always been the street. I live half a block from an elementary school. The street one block up and around the corner hasn't been touched (also no sidewalks). So no, you cannot walk on lawns/yards.

The school itself looks like it's been plowed (it's a KAH location mentioned above) but that doesn't help if the neighborhood is still a mess.

Have you even been outside? There are absolutely paths through the snow from other people walking through it. Yes, it takes more time. Yes, you have to be more careful than usual. You might even get a little bit of snow in your shoes while you do it. But you can definitely manage. And the tracks demonstrate that.

Anonymous wrote:Not sure as of this evening, but KAH locations that were closed today included Barnsley, Bayard Rustin, Cannon Road, Fairland, Flower Valley, Garrett Park, Meadow Hall, and Westover-- the other 18 were open.

Does the fact that daycares were able to open mean that the school is plowed enough to manage multiple buses, and teacher parking? Or does it just mean that there is enough parking for daycare staff, and a route for cars to drop off?

I wouldn't assume that open daycare means that the school is plowed well enough to open as a school.

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Anonymous wrote:Hate to pile on(pun intended) the already difficult job the county has but I really wish they had taken the DC approach and actually remove the snow rather than just push it around. It would take a little more effort and logistics but it would make things a lot safer if they had loaded snow and ice into trucks and dump trailers and gone and dumped it at like Lakeforest Mall's empty lot.

Don't be hating on Lakeforest Mall now. They could have dumped it into the lakes nearby.

Actually they can't. It pollutes.

I think most of the lakes are actually just fancy storage
stormwater basins, with the exception of a few of the bigger ones that are quasi-reservoirs.

So it's kind of the same thing. The storm drains dump into the same place. And large parking lots are easier places to dump snow than ponds.

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Anonymous wrote:The sidewalk off darnestown road and quince orchard road to Quince Orchard HS were not plowed at all yesterday. It is quite dangerous for kids/teens to walk on the road to get to school.

Then walk on the snow. I'm sure there are plenty of footsteps to follow.

Snow is manageable. Being pushed into traffic because sidewalks weren’t plowed is not. The concern is that unplowed sidewalks force students into the roadway. That’s why sidewalks are supposed to be cleared.

They don't force them onto the road. They can walk on sidewalks that haven't been cleared. They can walk on lawns.

Have you been outside or even looked around? No, they cannot. My front lawn is blocked by a mountain of snow the front wheeler dumped onto it clearing the street. There are big blocks of snow and ice everywhere else from clearing a path to my front door/clearing the driveway. We don't have sidewalks so the only place to walk has always been the street. I live half a block from an elementary school. The street one block up and around the corner hasn't been touched (also no sidewalks). So no, you cannot walk on lawns/yards.

The school itself looks like it's been plowed (it's a KAH location mentioned above) but that doesn't help if the neighborhood is still a mess.