Totally is the case in the NoVa suburbs. I was just an outsider looking in b/c I work FT, stayed out of the fray and it was mostly a SAHM issue but yea, everything talked about in this article rings true here.

This is definitely accurate. Some of these these mom groups are vicious and ruthless. The minute you stop being useful to them or cannot attend on event they will cut you out and banish you from social gatherings. I foolishly tried to get involved with a local mom group, but it did no last very long. All of these people think the world revolves around them and they don't care that you actual have a job or a life. They expect you to take time off work to attend their 11am social events and hire a babysitter to watch your kids for a week so you can go on a girls trip to Italy. It's really not worth it.

This definitely exists in the DC area, maybe not to the level in the article but it exists. I see it in my own neighborhood! There’s the large group texts, and the side texts only some people are on. And the facebook posts about how people “love their village!” With group trips and constant socializing, and pictures shared in the larger group text by the people vying to be queen bee, so everyone knows that they are included in everything. I know not all neighborhoods are as bad as mine, but the moms in my neighborhood are pretty obnoxious and care more about their own social status than what their kids are doing. It’s definitely more prevalent among parents of younger elementary kids and toddlers. By the time kids are older elementary, most of the parents are too busy with sports and activities to have time for the clique.

I couldn’t bring myself to finish the article but I know I’ve seen a lot of DCUM threads written by moms who have been jilted by the queen bee.

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Anonymous wrote:This is from 2014, so the moms in it would be elder Millennials at a minimum, and more likely Gen X, as it sounds like they had preschool or even school age children in 2014. I wonder if things are different for mom groups these days. Can your average 40 year old couple with, say, a 3 year old and a 6 year old, even afford a ritzy suburb with a SAHM? All the high income couples I know in rich areas have two working parents, or if they do have a SAH or part time working mom, the kids are maybe a bit older and mom seems to be more in the early 50s/“early retirement” situation.

This is such a whiny young Millennial/Gen Z thing to say. Plenty of people in their 30s are one income families in the rich suburbs. In fact, where I live, it’s probably half.

I’m glad you thought I was a “young Millennial Gen Z,” but really I’m an elder Millennial! I just don’t know many SAHM families other than for a short time when kids were very little.

Anonymous wrote:I couldn’t finish this. It’s such a rich white people cliche. And the primary reason why people’s friendships and entire lives shouldn’t center around their children. I have my own friends. Not related to my kids friends.

Those people make up a small group of status conscious people. There are families with incomes ten times larger who blend right in while those people want to stand out.

The only reason have a few kids friends is for emergencies.

Anonymous wrote:This is from 2014, so the moms in it would be elder Millennials at a minimum, and more likely Gen X, as it sounds like they had preschool or even school age children in 2014. I wonder if things are different for mom groups these days. Can your average 40 year old couple with, say, a 3 year old and a 6 year old, even afford a ritzy suburb with a SAHM? All the high income couples I know in rich areas have two working parents, or if they do have a SAH or part time working mom, the kids are maybe a bit older and mom seems to be more in the early 50s/“early retirement” situation.

This is such a whiny young Millennial/Gen Z thing to say. Plenty of people in their 30s are one income families in the rich suburbs. In fact, where I live, it’s probably half.

I couldn’t finish this. It’s such a rich white people cliche. And the primary reason why people’s friendships and entire lives shouldn’t center around their children. I have my own friends. Not related to my kids friends.

Anonymous wrote:No, not at all. I've found Arlington moms to be very down to earth.

Of course you would say that. Maybe you even believe it.

I have been a parent in the suburbs for 10 years and I just have not really experienced a lot of mean girl or cliques. Maybe I'm being excluded from things and I don't even know it but I'm not stressing about it.

I spent so much of my teenage years being bullied and excluded and I made a choice as an adult socialize with people who fill my up my cup.

Anonymous wrote:This is from 2014, so the moms in it would be elder Millennials at a minimum, and more likely Gen X, as it sounds like they had preschool or even school age children in 2014. I wonder if things are different for mom groups these days. Can your average 40 year old couple with, say, a 3 year old and a 6 year old, even afford a ritzy suburb with a SAHM? All the high income couples I know in rich areas have two working parents, or if they do have a SAH or part time working mom, the kids are maybe a bit older and mom seems to be more in the early 50s/“early retirement” situation.

I’m initially from the writer’s area and one income families in big houses are very common. The writer was kind of gross though. She moved into town and immediately looked for “her people”. She wanted to only be around couples her age, her income range, her clothing style, husband bros, and all White couples. The problems come later when their kids are nothing alike.

Are they 21?

These kinds of people, male and female exist everywhere. There are cliques at work, with volunteer groups etc….

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t resonate with me at all. Guess we should avoid the Boston area.

I lived in Boston for a decade with my kids. This isn’t representative of Boston either!

I went to college and grad school in Boston.

It is normal to find people like yourself. If those people want to hang out at a fake yacht club, i wouldn’t care.

We are members of a country club. We also used to be members of a pool. There are cliques in both. Who cares? We have friends. We being friends. I don’t have the time to hang out with the same group.

When my kids were very young, I had mom friends I would hang out with at playgrounds and parks. You just hang out with people you like.

Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t resonate with me at all. Guess we should avoid the Boston area.

I lived in Boston for a decade with my kids. This isn’t representative of Boston either!