Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the kid mean? Violent? Dangerous? Or just annoying?
I will probably get dragged for this, but we all have to get used to being around annoying people in life. Try to plan “hey, let’s do an adult dinner/drinks” more often, but I think occasionally I’d probably have my kid just deal for an hour or two. (Ducks for cover)
The kid is not violent or dangerous. She is mean. She might be a mix of super arrogant and insecure at the same time. I know the mom struggles with the child a lot. I love the mom. Mom is super smart, successful and a considerate person. Her child is completely opposite of her mom.
I have told my child to basically suffer through our outings and that there is some fun. I can offer the most amazing outings, events or even vacations with this mom and daughter and my child would rather stay home and study than hang out with them. My daughter generally gets along with most other children.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It would be nice to know if we’re talking about 6 yr olds or 16 yr olds. (Yes I know extreme range). But I would counsel my kids differently depending on the age.
I agree with the PP who is wondering why your child has not been standing up for herself. Seems odd to me.
Also stop with the “only children are spoiled and self centered”. Her being an only child has nothing to do with her being unpleasant. The most unpleasant child I’ve dealt with was one of 5–because she was smack in the middle and received virtually no attention, so bad attention was better than none.
The girls are 9.
I stress kindness, maybe too much. I have taught my child to be polite and kind. If my child has a better anything, I would be horrified if she said my “x” is better than your “y”.
My friend’s daughter and my daughter have different strengths and weaknesses. I would absolutely not want my child to put down the other child. I don’t think my child knows how to respond when someone insults her.
There was a girl in her class last year who is a bully and mean. I just coached my daughter to stay away from her.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, don’t tell her. Your friendship will not survive this. Your complaints are also general, what can she do to help her child be less “spoiled and annoying”? Even if she wanted to address a certain behavior, it’s hard to change.
If it was something more specific, like child insists on playing dolls when the other child wants to do something else, or doesn’t help clean up, then it’s more specific and can be addressed.
So just say that your child is either busy, or at a friends house or something, or not up to a play date and meet elsewhere.
Kids go through phases, maybe they’ll become friends again, maybe they won’t, but telling her that her child is spoiled and annoying will be the end to your friendship.
My child has had probably hundreds of complains over this girl over the years so it is hard to list all of them. A few examples:
When taking a photo, girl will step on her foot on purpose hard and jab her in the ribs. Then my child will not be smiling in photo.
Whenever we do anything, the child will shove and insist she have the best seat, the better view, the best of anything available. She will snatch the last cookie or sticker or anything that is available.
At any day that we see them, she will insult my child at least ten times per day. I often have to hear a list of all the mean things the girl has said to her that day. Her dress is ugly, her hair is messy, she doesn’t like her headband or bow, etc.
None of this behavior is annoying. It's just mean. I wouldn't even say most of it is selfish -- most children display selfish behavior at times because it's linked to a very human instinct to protect resources. But what you are describing here is cruel, mean-spirited behavior, intended to wound your child.
If it were me I'd probably just say my DD needed a break and that it sounds like the girls don't get along. I would only provide examples if asked. I wouldn't lay it all out because I'd worry about the mom getting defensive and going on the offensive against me, or alternatively getting angry with her daughter and taking it out on her. This behavior is severe and may stem from family dysfunction, so I'd tread carefully.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is the kid mean? Violent? Dangerous? Or just annoying?
I will probably get dragged for this, but we all have to get used to being around annoying people in life. Try to plan “hey, let’s do an adult dinner/drinks” more often, but I think occasionally I’d probably have my kid just deal for an hour or two. (Ducks for cover)
The kid is not violent or dangerous. She is mean. She might be a mix of super arrogant and insecure at the same time. I know the mom struggles with the child a lot. I love the mom. Mom is super smart, successful and a considerate person. Her child is completely opposite of her mom.
I have told my child to basically suffer through our outings and that there is some fun. I can offer the most amazing outings, events or even vacations with this mom and daughter and my child would rather stay home and study than hang out with them. My daughter generally gets along with most other children.
Anonymous wrote:“Larla no longer wants to hang out with Larlie because Larlie physically hurts her.” Give examples. “ I’d love to continue to hang out with you one-on-one while you resolve this with your daughter.”
Don’t assume that the mom will let the relationship drop. She possibly experiences lots of rejection and can’t see why. If Larlie is an only child, she’s likely not doing this in the home. You’re being a good friend kindly bringing this to her attention. She may be too hurt or embarrassed to continue the friendship, but don’t make that decision for her. I agree that you shouldn’t guess why Larlie is behaving this way. Just state what is happening and how it is affecting your daughter. Stand firm on the boundary your daughter can no longer be in the room with Larlie.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, don’t tell her. Your friendship will not survive this. Your complaints are also general, what can she do to help her child be less “spoiled and annoying”? Even if she wanted to address a certain behavior, it’s hard to change.
If it was something more specific, like child insists on playing dolls when the other child wants to do something else, or doesn’t help clean up, then it’s more specific and can be addressed.
So just say that your child is either busy, or at a friends house or something, or not up to a play date and meet elsewhere.
Kids go through phases, maybe they’ll become friends again, maybe they won’t, but telling her that her child is spoiled and annoying will be the end to your friendship.
My child has had probably hundreds of complains over this girl over the years so it is hard to list all of them. A few examples:
When taking a photo, girl will step on her foot on purpose hard and jab her in the ribs. Then my child will not be smiling in photo.
Whenever we do anything, the child will shove and insist she have the best seat, the better view, the best of anything available. She will snatch the last cookie or sticker or anything that is available.
At any day that we see them, she will insult my child at least ten times per day. I often have to hear a list of all the mean things the girl has said to her that day. Her dress is ugly, her hair is messy, she doesn’t like her headband or bow, etc.
None of this behavior is annoying. It's just mean. I wouldn't even say most of it is selfish -- most children display selfish behavior at times because it's linked to a very human instinct to protect resources. But what you are describing here is cruel, mean-spirited behavior, intended to wound your child.
If it were me I'd probably just say my DD needed a break and that it sounds like the girls don't get along. I would only provide examples if asked. I wouldn't lay it all out because I'd worry about the mom getting defensive and going on the offensive against me, or alternatively getting angry with her daughter and taking it out on her. This behavior is severe and may stem from family dysfunction, so I'd tread carefully.
Anonymous wrote:It would be nice to know if we’re talking about 6 yr olds or 16 yr olds. (Yes I know extreme range). But I would counsel my kids differently depending on the age.
I agree with the PP who is wondering why your child has not been standing up for herself. Seems odd to me.
Also stop with the “only children are spoiled and self centered”. Her being an only child has nothing to do with her being unpleasant. The most unpleasant child I’ve dealt with was one of 5–because she was smack in the middle and received virtually no attention, so bad attention was better than none.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, don’t tell her. Your friendship will not survive this. Your complaints are also general, what can she do to help her child be less “spoiled and annoying”? Even if she wanted to address a certain behavior, it’s hard to change.
If it was something more specific, like child insists on playing dolls when the other child wants to do something else, or doesn’t help clean up, then it’s more specific and can be addressed.
So just say that your child is either busy, or at a friends house or something, or not up to a play date and meet elsewhere.
Kids go through phases, maybe they’ll become friends again, maybe they won’t, but telling her that her child is spoiled and annoying will be the end to your friendship.
My child has had probably hundreds of complains over this girl over the years so it is hard to list all of them. A few examples:
When taking a photo, girl will step on her foot on purpose hard and jab her in the ribs. Then my child will not be smiling in photo.
Whenever we do anything, the child will shove and insist she have the best seat, the better view, the best of anything available. She will snatch the last cookie or sticker or anything that is available.
At any day that we see them, she will insult my child at least ten times per day. I often have to hear a list of all the mean things the girl has said to her that day. Her dress is ugly, her hair is messy, she doesn’t like her headband or bow, etc.