Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:not equivalent:
"gods" have woo woo supernatural powers

extraterrestrial life could exist in nature

It all depends how you define god. You are only using your sophomoric understanding of "a god".

My favorite part about religion is how everyone just moves the goalposts however they want to justify their beliefs.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do I believe aliens are visiting Earth? No.

Do I believe it is probable that there is other life in the universe? Yes. I would love to get into the likely salty oceans on Europa, Enceladus, or Ganymede. It would be awesome to discover and learn about similarities and differences if there is any other life there.

I wonder how the religious crazies will react if we do find life outside of Earth?

define life.

According to NASA, "Life is a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution."

Like a microbe. The only life found in space is from Earth.

I personally think the whole space exploration to be a huge waste of money.

I'm not PP, do I believe there are microbes somewhere else... IDK and IDC.

You do know that the technology they develop for space exploration has had an enormous impact on life on earth, right? In environmental science, healthcare and medicine, and other materials development (like glass, memory foam, etc.). What I personally find to be a huge waste of money — and time and brain power — is social media.

Anonymous wrote:Atheist have a biological evolution that makes them good just because being good is good. They have more intrinsic value. They are too evolved to need parables and myths to encourage them to act morally, it's part of evolution.

everyone is that way.

Anonymous wrote:not equivalent:
"gods" have woo woo supernatural powers

extraterrestrial life could exist in nature

It all depends how you define god. You are only using your sophomoric understanding of "a god".

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do I believe aliens are visiting Earth? No.

Do I believe it is probable that there is other life in the universe? Yes. I would love to get into the likely salty oceans on Europa, Enceladus, or Ganymede. It would be awesome to discover and learn about similarities and differences if there is any other life there.

I wonder how the religious crazies will react if we do find life outside of Earth?

define life.

According to NASA, "Life is a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution."

Like a microbe. The only life found in space is from Earth.

I personally think the whole space exploration to be a huge waste of money.

I'm not PP, do I believe there are microbes somewhere else... IDK and IDC.

not equivalent:
"gods" have woo woo supernatural powers

extraterrestrial life could exist in nature

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do I believe aliens are visiting Earth? No.

Do I believe it is probable that there is other life in the universe? Yes. I would love to get into the likely salty oceans on Europa, Enceladus, or Ganymede. It would be awesome to discover and learn about similarities and differences if there is any other life there.

I wonder how the religious crazies will react if we do find life outside of Earth?

define life.

According to NASA, "Life is a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution."

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Atheists on here often say they sre rational and believe in science.
Explain relationship to extraterrestrial intelligence given current evidence?

I mean, no sky fairies but SPACE FAIRIES?

I think it's a fallacy to say atheists believe in ET. So your assertion is based on a fallacy.

I am discussing the article. The paper available on Springerlink.

Me too. So? You must be misinterpreting the paper if you don't understand the PP.

Anonymous wrote:Dickless b#tch again.
I looked up syllogisms. That's the all A is B, some B are C, therefore all A is C FALLACY stuff since it's really only some A might be B. Or whatever.

I think interpreting my question as a syllogism is questionable since I just asked if A and B were equivalent.

But if you just want to shut me down kewl Job Done as George said

NP

YOu do know that "being open to" and "believing" is different right.

Also UFO is just and unidentified object, once the object is identified as a rock or a plane it's no longer a UFO, but UFO does not mean ET.

There are tons of UFO's because we can't identify everything... that does not mean there is likely ETs.

Dickless b#tch again.
I looked up syllogisms. That's the all A is B, some B are C, therefore all A is C FALLACY stuff since it's really only some A might be B. Or whatever.

I think interpreting my question as a syllogism is questionable since I just asked if A and B were equivalent.

But if you just want to shut me down kewl Job Done as George said

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Atheists on here often say they sre rational and believe in science.
Explain relationship to extraterrestrial intelligence given current evidence?

Your premise is rejected.

The premise being that all atheists believe in ETs or that there is a relation of any kind between not believing in god to other beliefs.

Since you've not shown either to be true, your premise is rejected and does not require further examination or response until you do so.

You are SO INTELLIGENT I AM IN AWE.
Surprised therefore how you interpreted the question. Skewed much?
Try this.
Do a kindness and explain whether or not a) being open to existence of extraterrestrial intelligences without proof for or against such existences is different from b) being open to the existence of deities without proof for or against such existences.

Your insult is harmless (assuming you were being sarcastic).

My point remains the same - until you establish your premise the rest of your syllogism is irrelevant.

....

You don't have to be such a dick, you know. Other ways work.

Sorry to be a cword. I don't have a dick. I am reactive.

But I admit to being stupid and ignorant.
I do honestly not know what a syllogism and lack of premise is
Can you please show me what's the syllogism in what i asked?
There wasn't a premise, just asking if a was or was not different from b and if so why.
I don't believe I said all atheists were anything. Perhaps that was an inference?

I am OP. I don't think there is any reason why Earth should be the only place life, "intelligent" or otherwise exists. But I am unaware of any proof there is or isn't intelligent ET life
There are "strongly suggestive" signs of historical life outside our solar system but not definitive proof. Personally I would be thrilled if there is.
Oh and I believe in a deity without empirical proof.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/apr/17/scientists-hail-strongest-evidence-so-far-for-life-beyond-our-solar-system

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Atheists on here often say they sre rational and believe in science.
Explain relationship to extraterrestrial intelligence given current evidence?

Your premise is rejected.

The premise being that all atheists believe in ETs or that there is a relation of any kind between not believing in god to other beliefs.

Since you've not shown either to be true, your premise is rejected and does not require further examination or response until you do so.

You are SO INTELLIGENT I AM IN AWE.
Surprised therefore how you interpreted the question. Skewed much?
Try this.
Do a kindness and explain whether or not a) being open to existence of extraterrestrial intelligences without proof for or against such existences is different from b) being open to the existence of deities without proof for or against such existences.

Your insult is harmless (assuming you were being sarcastic).

My point remains the same - until you establish your premise the rest of your syllogism is irrelevant.

As for my (largely irrelevant) personal opinion answer to your new question, the answer is "I have no idea". I do know we have evidence of life in this universe, but no evidence of gods in this universe, so there is that advantage... but it is still not enough to sway me to a position.

You don't have to be such a dick, you know. Other ways work.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Atheists on here often say they sre rational and believe in science.
Explain relationship to extraterrestrial intelligence given current evidence?

I mean, no sky fairies but SPACE FAIRIES?

I think it's a fallacy to say atheists believe in ET. So your assertion is based on a fallacy.

I am discussing the article. The paper available on Springerlink.

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Anonymous wrote:So do atheists with high desire for "meaning" have more propensity to believe in or wish for extraterrestrial intelligence and UFOs? This WashPo opinion writer thinks so. It's a desire for "meaning" he says.

Discuss.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/interactive/2026/ufo-upa-sightings/

Can't find free gift link.

But report cited has open access on Springer

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11031-017-9605-y

Atheists are capable of all kinds of ideas, including believing in some stupid sh*t. Like the Raelians, for example.

Atheism is simply the position of not believing in a god or gods. Everything else is unrelated.

Not to nitpick but some atheists believe there is no god which is different than not believing in god. While they are both atheist the 2 different beliefs are very different.

Atheists are multifaceted just like Christians are.

Nitpick all you want, no problem here. Especially since we don't appear to disagree. The definition of atheism "a-theism", is not believing in a god. You can also believe there isn't one (and I believe there most likely isn't one as I define god) , but very few actual atheists claim they can prove that, especially without a vivid definition of the god.