Anonymous wrote:

"least exclusive whenever possible"

I'm in favor of this being applied to our country's approach to Gifted Education in public school.
No reason for it to applied to one subset and not another

Why deny high achievers education that is more appropriate to their level? This seems like some petty jealousy or pulling up the ladder.

Everyone deserves to learn, to grow, and to face appropriate challenge. Aside from exploiting them as free labor, why would you want to hold everyone to mediocrity? Why would you want to widen the achievement gap between private and public?

Anonymous wrote:This falls on leadership. Not the teachers.

Absolutely. Putting teachers and our kids in a terrible situation.

"least exclusive whenever possible"

I'm in favor of this being applied to our country's approach to Gifted Education in public school.
No reason for it to applied to one subset and not another

Anonymous wrote:They created the CSS centers for chair throwers to work through their issues. It can take a long time for kids to get on the righ diagnosis/ medication/therapy.

When the CSS center class is full, suddenly inclusion is what FCPS recommends.

I’m in DCPS and used to have the chair thrower (much better now knock on wood). It always floored me how incompetent and surprised the school acted when although this kind of behavior is unusual it is absolutely to be expected that one or two kids will regularly be doing such things. The school district needs to create a LOT more resources that are immediately deployed when a kid is having serious behavioral issues. Instead of sitting around with their fingers in their noses acting like it never happened before.

This is not new.

But also, OP, watch Out of My Mind on Disney+ with your kids.

Anonymous wrote:I miss the day teachers gave enrichment assignments for students who needed it. No student was labeled.

+1

Teachers in a mixed classroom can provide proper acceleration. It is not that hard. Sure, some of the instruction is targeted to the whole class, but good teachers have been grouping since forever.

I miss the day teachers gave enrichment assignments for students who needed it. No student was labeled.

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The law has required students to be educated in the least restrictive setting since at least 1975.

And then, the push for the designation of "Gifted" students as a protected class. It's no surprise that enacting protections -for both- have been the downfall of public education.

As a teacher, I always felt that the "normal" kids suffered. Of course, at first, only the gifted were put in higher classes. Now, it is anyone whose parents lobby for it.
But, the gened was left with the stragglers and strugglers.
I knew two families who fought to get their bright kid into GT--meanwhile, insisting that their special ed kid stay in Gened. And, I am talking about truly special ed kids--not LD.

I always thought that was interesting. They didn't want their bright kid with the others, but they thought the others were fine for their needier kid.

FWIW, I strongly believe in "inclusion" wherever possible. However, if the lower end of the spectrum should be included, so should the higher end.

But, a child who is constantly disruptive or needs constant supervision (in the case of those at the very low end of the spectrum), inclusion for those should be reconsidered.

The "least exclusive whenever possible" does not mean always inclusive. This is an administrative "out."

The law has required students to be educated in the least restrictive setting since at least 1975.

And then, the push for the designation of "Gifted" students as a protected class. It's no surprise that enacting protections -for both- have been the downfall of public education.

Anonymous wrote:Who is going to go into teaching at this rate? My dd would be a great teacher, but I’d never advise her to pursue this path. The expectations are absurd.

She should go to private school if she wants to teach, but not deal with this. Private schools can refuse or kick out "difficult " students as they see fit. They are under no obligation to support them

This falls on leadership. Not the teachers.

Anonymous wrote:Who is going to go into teaching at this rate? My dd would be a great teacher, but I’d never advise her to pursue this path. The expectations are absurd.

+1, I’m a teacher and my DD loved an Education 101 class she took to meet graduation course requirements in college (don’t remember the requirement, maybe Communication). Anyways, I told her to NOT to pursue teaching when she was considering taking the next level.

Anonymous wrote:Who is going to go into teaching at this rate? My dd would be a great teacher, but I’d never advise her to pursue this path. The expectations are absurd.

Teaching hasn't been a well respected or popular profession for quite some time now. I can't even recall how many times I've seen posts here where a parent is saying that their kid wants to become a teacher and they are talking them out of it.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a huge shortage of seats in the contract private special ed schools FCPS uses.

Only a very small percentage of students with disabilities are appropriate for the private special ed schools. The law has required students to be educated in the least restrictive setting since at least 1975. Prior to that, students with disabilities either weren't allowed to go to school at all or were warehoused, out of sight and out of mind.

That's true, but there's a domino effect. Usually kids go from general ed to the CSS sites and then to the private contract schools. When the contract schools are full, kids can't move out of the CSS sites and seats don't open up there.

Some kids end up on homeschool, I know that is not the name but the online schooling with occasional Teacher visits for sick kids, because their behavior is too much for CSS or the CSS is not able to meet their needs. The kids end up at home while waiting for a spot to open in one of the private schools. And most of the private schools are not great environments. Very few kids end up at the nicer SPED privates people know about.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a huge shortage of seats in the contract private special ed schools FCPS uses.

Only a very small percentage of students with disabilities are appropriate for the private special ed schools. The law has required students to be educated in the least restrictive setting since at least 1975. Prior to that, students with disabilities either weren't allowed to go to school at all or were warehoused, out of sight and out of mind.

That's true, but there's a domino effect. Usually kids go from general ed to the CSS sites and then to the private contract schools. When the contract schools are full, kids can't move out of the CSS sites and seats don't open up there.