Anonymous
Post 01/21/2026 15:20     Subject: Re:Any new ECNL teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you don’t think “travel” soccer is for you, there are many options in the area where your DC can play and not travel. I suggest you join one of those and stop bothering parents that signed their DC up for travel soccer about the trials of traveling. You sound like the person that signs their kid up for rec soccer and complains it is too recreational.


ECNL parent here. I do understand travel is travel. BUT making players and parents drive to Ashville, NC for weekend game is ridiculous.


I don't think that the HFC club that is out there should have been given NL or even RL status (because of remoteness and the fact that they are not competitive at all). One of the frustrating things about ECNL is that they will allow a club like that in (and let's be honest, HFC is mid-level town travel club, which is fine but it is/was no where near ready for more than that) but will veto much better/larger clubs because they happen to be close to existing ECNL/RL clubs. It is short-sited and drove a bunch of clubs to MLSN2.


When I saw a club in Asheville was joining the MA, my heart sank and then I was filled with joy when I saw it was only on the boys side. Asheville is a freaking haul, even from Richmond.


It is not bad for a weekend event. I used to coach a team and go out to HFC's fall tournament. It was a lot of fun (we really only traveled out of town for that tournament) so the trip wasn't too bad and the HFC teams were semi-competitive (but would still lose to the middle level travel club I was at). I was shocked when when I saw they got RL and was floored with I saw NL. Not sure who they paid or how connected they must be but it is crazy.


If you were shocked HFC got RL, you were probably even more shocked they won or finished top 3 in 5 of the 6 age groups (winning in 3) in RL last year. Their 09s won the RL national finals to boot.

So it was about as cut and dried obvious to promote them to NL based on RL success as any club that moved up LY, other than maybe Kansas Rush.

They have gotten shellacked in the early going, no doubt. But they'll be fine in NL over the long run, assuming players/families can tolerate the travel, which is patently absurd for them and really everyone else in MA. They're experiencing the growing pains of moving up a level, it happens, the kids eventually get acclimated to the speed of the game and they're fine. Won't be any different here, it's a solid club.


Their biggest problem in the short term is the economic and migration impacts post Hurricane Helene. Asheville was devastated right after they moved up to Boys ECNL. the economy has not recovered there, and there has been a resultant outmigration of population. That effects the talent available, and unfortunately HFC has lost talent due to people moving out of Asheville at the same time they entered ECNL. The teams they field this year just are not as strong as the teams that ran over ECNL RL last year.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2026 12:08     Subject: Re:Any new ECNL teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you don’t think “travel” soccer is for you, there are many options in the area where your DC can play and not travel. I suggest you join one of those and stop bothering parents that signed their DC up for travel soccer about the trials of traveling. You sound like the person that signs their kid up for rec soccer and complains it is too recreational.


ECNL parent here. I do understand travel is travel. BUT making players and parents drive to Ashville, NC for weekend game is ridiculous.


I don't think that the HFC club that is out there should have been given NL or even RL status (because of remoteness and the fact that they are not competitive at all). One of the frustrating things about ECNL is that they will allow a club like that in (and let's be honest, HFC is mid-level town travel club, which is fine but it is/was no where near ready for more than that) but will veto much better/larger clubs because they happen to be close to existing ECNL/RL clubs. It is short-sited and drove a bunch of clubs to MLSN2.


When I saw a club in Asheville was joining the MA, my heart sank and then I was filled with joy when I saw it was only on the boys side. Asheville is a freaking haul, even from Richmond.


It is not bad for a weekend event. I used to coach a team and go out to HFC's fall tournament. It was a lot of fun (we really only traveled out of town for that tournament) so the trip wasn't too bad and the HFC teams were semi-competitive (but would still lose to the middle level travel club I was at). I was shocked when when I saw they got RL and was floored with I saw NL. Not sure who they paid or how connected they must be but it is crazy.


If you were shocked HFC got RL, you were probably even more shocked they won or finished top 3 in 5 of the 6 age groups (winning in 3) in RL last year. Their 09s won the RL national finals to boot.

So it was about as cut and dried obvious to promote them to NL based on RL success as any club that moved up LY, other than maybe Kansas Rush.

They have gotten shellacked in the early going, no doubt. But they'll be fine in NL over the long run, assuming players/families can tolerate the travel, which is patently absurd for them and really everyone else in MA. They're experiencing the growing pains of moving up a level, it happens, the kids eventually get acclimated to the speed of the game and they're fine. Won't be any different here, it's a solid club.


They also have to field RL teams now as well. They are going to get wrecked (their younger RL are already getting wrecked). They do not have the player or population base, in any aspect, to do this. They are an average mid-sized club. If they end up 'fine' in NL it is purely due to everyone else leaving. They were getting 'mercy-ruled' by most teams, there is no amount of acclimation to speed of play that is going to make a major difference there. This was a purely political decision by ECNL.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2026 11:15     Subject: Any new ECNL teams?

Anonymous wrote:On girls side, no new teams being added from Virginia, and not anticipating anyone leaving. They wanted to add one NC and one VA to keep it balanced and have travel partners, but had no applicants from VA that met standards. Richmond United setup their whole Strikers/Kickers merger to position for second ECNL team, but the Blue Teams that are supposed to be the strongest, didn't finish consistently high enough in the standings and sometimes were not the best Richmond United team overall.


That's true about RU and the merger. I'd hate to see teams get added just for the sake of adding teams. The NCFC teams consistently are finishing low in the league while the NC Courage teams do well. IIRC, I thought there were some rumblings that Charlotte SA was looking to expand. Time will tell.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2026 10:53     Subject: Re:Any new ECNL teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you don’t think “travel” soccer is for you, there are many options in the area where your DC can play and not travel. I suggest you join one of those and stop bothering parents that signed their DC up for travel soccer about the trials of traveling. You sound like the person that signs their kid up for rec soccer and complains it is too recreational.


ECNL parent here. I do understand travel is travel. BUT making players and parents drive to Ashville, NC for weekend game is ridiculous.


I don't think that the HFC club that is out there should have been given NL or even RL status (because of remoteness and the fact that they are not competitive at all). One of the frustrating things about ECNL is that they will allow a club like that in (and let's be honest, HFC is mid-level town travel club, which is fine but it is/was no where near ready for more than that) but will veto much better/larger clubs because they happen to be close to existing ECNL/RL clubs. It is short-sited and drove a bunch of clubs to MLSN2.


When I saw a club in Asheville was joining the MA, my heart sank and then I was filled with joy when I saw it was only on the boys side. Asheville is a freaking haul, even from Richmond.



you are talking tournament. for Saturday game only and drving 6+ hours one way, that's ridiculous...
It is not bad for a weekend event. I used to coach a team and go out to HFC's fall tournament. It was a lot of fun (we really only traveled out of town for that tournament) so the trip wasn't too bad and the HFC teams were semi-competitive (but would still lose to the middle level travel club I was at). I was shocked when when I saw they got RL and was floored with I saw NL. Not sure who they paid or how connected they must be but it is crazy.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2026 22:15     Subject: Any new ECNL teams?

They will acclimate once everyone leaves ECNL and goes to MLSNext.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2026 16:04     Subject: Re:Any new ECNL teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you don’t think “travel” soccer is for you, there are many options in the area where your DC can play and not travel. I suggest you join one of those and stop bothering parents that signed their DC up for travel soccer about the trials of traveling. You sound like the person that signs their kid up for rec soccer and complains it is too recreational.


ECNL parent here. I do understand travel is travel. BUT making players and parents drive to Ashville, NC for weekend game is ridiculous.


I don't think that the HFC club that is out there should have been given NL or even RL status (because of remoteness and the fact that they are not competitive at all). One of the frustrating things about ECNL is that they will allow a club like that in (and let's be honest, HFC is mid-level town travel club, which is fine but it is/was no where near ready for more than that) but will veto much better/larger clubs because they happen to be close to existing ECNL/RL clubs. It is short-sited and drove a bunch of clubs to MLSN2.


When I saw a club in Asheville was joining the MA, my heart sank and then I was filled with joy when I saw it was only on the boys side. Asheville is a freaking haul, even from Richmond.


It is not bad for a weekend event. I used to coach a team and go out to HFC's fall tournament. It was a lot of fun (we really only traveled out of town for that tournament) so the trip wasn't too bad and the HFC teams were semi-competitive (but would still lose to the middle level travel club I was at). I was shocked when when I saw they got RL and was floored with I saw NL. Not sure who they paid or how connected they must be but it is crazy.


If you were shocked HFC got RL, you were probably even more shocked they won or finished top 3 in 5 of the 6 age groups (winning in 3) in RL last year. Their 09s won the RL national finals to boot.

So it was about as cut and dried obvious to promote them to NL based on RL success as any club that moved up LY, other than maybe Kansas Rush.

They have gotten shellacked in the early going, no doubt. But they'll be fine in NL over the long run, assuming players/families can tolerate the travel, which is patently absurd for them and really everyone else in MA. They're experiencing the growing pains of moving up a level, it happens, the kids eventually get acclimated to the speed of the game and they're fine. Won't be any different here, it's a solid club.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2026 15:50     Subject: Any new ECNL teams?

On girls side, no new teams being added from Virginia, and not anticipating anyone leaving. They wanted to add one NC and one VA to keep it balanced and have travel partners, but had no applicants from VA that met standards. Richmond United setup their whole Strikers/Kickers merger to position for second ECNL team, but the Blue Teams that are supposed to be the strongest, didn't finish consistently high enough in the standings and sometimes were not the best Richmond United team overall.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2026 15:15     Subject: Re:Any new ECNL teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you don’t think “travel” soccer is for you, there are many options in the area where your DC can play and not travel. I suggest you join one of those and stop bothering parents that signed their DC up for travel soccer about the trials of traveling. You sound like the person that signs their kid up for rec soccer and complains it is too recreational.


ECNL parent here. I do understand travel is travel. BUT making players and parents drive to Ashville, NC for weekend game is ridiculous.


I don't think that the HFC club that is out there should have been given NL or even RL status (because of remoteness and the fact that they are not competitive at all). One of the frustrating things about ECNL is that they will allow a club like that in (and let's be honest, HFC is mid-level town travel club, which is fine but it is/was no where near ready for more than that) but will veto much better/larger clubs because they happen to be close to existing ECNL/RL clubs. It is short-sited and drove a bunch of clubs to MLSN2.


When I saw a club in Asheville was joining the MA, my heart sank and then I was filled with joy when I saw it was only on the boys side. Asheville is a freaking haul, even from Richmond.


It is not bad for a weekend event. I used to coach a team and go out to HFC's fall tournament. It was a lot of fun (we really only traveled out of town for that tournament) so the trip wasn't too bad and the HFC teams were semi-competitive (but would still lose to the middle level travel club I was at). I was shocked when when I saw they got RL and was floored with I saw NL. Not sure who they paid or how connected they must be but it is crazy.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2026 13:53     Subject: Re:Any new ECNL teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you don’t think “travel” soccer is for you, there are many options in the area where your DC can play and not travel. I suggest you join one of those and stop bothering parents that signed their DC up for travel soccer about the trials of traveling. You sound like the person that signs their kid up for rec soccer and complains it is too recreational.


ECNL parent here. I do understand travel is travel. BUT making players and parents drive to Ashville, NC for weekend game is ridiculous.


I don't think that the HFC club that is out there should have been given NL or even RL status (because of remoteness and the fact that they are not competitive at all). One of the frustrating things about ECNL is that they will allow a club like that in (and let's be honest, HFC is mid-level town travel club, which is fine but it is/was no where near ready for more than that) but will veto much better/larger clubs because they happen to be close to existing ECNL/RL clubs. It is short-sited and drove a bunch of clubs to MLSN2.


When I saw a club in Asheville was joining the MA, my heart sank and then I was filled with joy when I saw it was only on the boys side. Asheville is a freaking haul, even from Richmond.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2026 13:33     Subject: Re:Any new ECNL teams?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you don’t think “travel” soccer is for you, there are many options in the area where your DC can play and not travel. I suggest you join one of those and stop bothering parents that signed their DC up for travel soccer about the trials of traveling. You sound like the person that signs their kid up for rec soccer and complains it is too recreational.


ECNL parent here. I do understand travel is travel. BUT making players and parents drive to Ashville, NC for weekend game is ridiculous.


I don't think that the HFC club that is out there should have been given NL or even RL status (because of remoteness and the fact that they are not competitive at all). One of the frustrating things about ECNL is that they will allow a club like that in (and let's be honest, HFC is mid-level town travel club, which is fine but it is/was no where near ready for more than that) but will veto much better/larger clubs because they happen to be close to existing ECNL/RL clubs. It is short-sited and drove a bunch of clubs to MLSN2.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2026 11:14     Subject: Re:Any new ECNL teams?

Anonymous wrote:
If you don’t think “travel” soccer is for you, there are many options in the area where your DC can play and not travel. I suggest you join one of those and stop bothering parents that signed their DC up for travel soccer about the trials of traveling. You sound like the person that signs their kid up for rec soccer and complains it is too recreational.


ECNL parent here. I do understand travel is travel. BUT making players and parents drive to Ashville, NC for weekend game is ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2026 00:17     Subject: Any new ECNL teams?

Anonymous wrote:Ecnl isnt booting out any teams.


ECNL is a bag of bones.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2026 22:29     Subject: Any new ECNL teams?

Anonymous wrote:He's talking about central VA, would any Stafford or Reign parents like to add anything?

Probably a toss up between those clubs that depends on the specific coach and current team. Although there have been some Stafford girls at SYC practices so some teams might be changing
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2026 21:39     Subject: Re:Any new ECNL teams?


If you don’t think “travel” soccer is for you, there are many options in the area where your DC can play and not travel. I suggest you join one of those and stop bothering parents that signed their DC up for travel soccer about the trials of traveling. You sound like the person that signs their kid up for rec soccer and complains it is too recreational.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2026 20:38     Subject: Any new ECNL teams?

Anonymous wrote:ECNL Mid Atlantic needs complete overhaul. If it is going to be this spread out than the clubs should find a central location where Sat/Sunday games are played like other conferences do. The problem is that there are too many Coaches and Directors with no brains.


So everybody drives to this magical fantasy location every weekend? What other girls ECNL conference plays games every weekend at a central location?