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Anonymous wrote:I have a related question…why do some colleges directly put ED applicants on the waiting list instead of deferring them to the regular round?

Early years of travel/club sports were good training for this. We had more than one coach tell us “we won’t send rejections, we will email callbacks.” You learned early on a callback was a rejection and the roster was already full. They were keeping you hanging only if someone on their roster dropped out unexpectedly and they could hit you up for $$$$. It’s the exact same thing.

It’s basically a rejection either way. You are waiting to see if someone drops out.

So being deferred is better than being put on the waiting list?

Yes

It’s basically the same thing. Pretty common for deferred kids to not be admitted in RD and placed on waitlist.

Being deferred is not basically the same thing as the waitlist.

From a results perspective, it is indeed at most schools. Both are basically a soft rejection. And deferred kids frequently find themselves put on the waitlist. UVA is a prime example pf this.

DP. Admissions chances for deferred applicants vary widely by college. Different colleges have different processes, defer different percents of early applicants for different reasons. At some schools, deferral is a true second bite at the apple, whereas at others, acceptance after deferral is more rare.

You sound like someone banking on a deferral turning into an acceptance.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a related question…why do some colleges directly put ED applicants on the waiting list instead of deferring them to the regular round?

Early years of travel/club sports were good training for this. We had more than one coach tell us “we won’t send rejections, we will email callbacks.” You learned early on a callback was a rejection and the roster was already full. They were keeping you hanging only if someone on their roster dropped out unexpectedly and they could hit you up for $$$$. It’s the exact same thing.

It’s basically a rejection either way. You are waiting to see if someone drops out.

So being deferred is better than being put on the waiting list?

Yes

It’s basically the same thing. Pretty common for deferred kids to not be admitted in RD and placed on waitlist.

Being deferred is not basically the same thing as the waitlist.

From a results perspective, it is indeed at most schools. Both are basically a soft rejection. And deferred kids frequently find themselves put on the waitlist. UVA is a prime example pf this.

DP. Admissions chances for deferred applicants vary widely by college. Different colleges have different processes, defer different percents of early applicants for different reasons. At some schools, deferral is a true second bite at the apple, whereas at others, acceptance after deferral is more rare.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a related question…why do some colleges directly put ED applicants on the waiting list instead of deferring them to the regular round?

Early years of travel/club sports were good training for this. We had more than one coach tell us “we won’t send rejections, we will email callbacks.” You learned early on a callback was a rejection and the roster was already full. They were keeping you hanging only if someone on their roster dropped out unexpectedly and they could hit you up for $$$$. It’s the exact same thing.

It’s basically a rejection either way. You are waiting to see if someone drops out.

So being deferred is better than being put on the waiting list?

Yes

It’s basically the same thing. Pretty common for deferred kids to not be admitted in RD and placed on waitlist.

Being deferred is not basically the same thing as the waitlist.

From a results perspective, it is indeed at most schools. Both are basically a soft rejection. And deferred kids frequently find themselves put on the waitlist. UVA is a prime example pf this.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a related question…why do some colleges directly put ED applicants on the waiting list instead of deferring them to the regular round?

Early years of travel/club sports were good training for this. We had more than one coach tell us “we won’t send rejections, we will email callbacks.” You learned early on a callback was a rejection and the roster was already full. They were keeping you hanging only if someone on their roster dropped out unexpectedly and they could hit you up for $$$$. It’s the exact same thing.

It’s basically a rejection either way. You are waiting to see if someone drops out.

So being deferred is better than being put on the waiting list?

Yes

It’s basically the same thing. Pretty common for deferred kids to not be admitted in RD and placed on waitlist.

Being deferred is not basically the same thing as the waitlist.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a related question…why do some colleges directly put ED applicants on the waiting list instead of deferring them to the regular round?

Early years of travel/club sports were good training for this. We had more than one coach tell us “we won’t send rejections, we will email callbacks.” You learned early on a callback was a rejection and the roster was already full. They were keeping you hanging only if someone on their roster dropped out unexpectedly and they could hit you up for $$$$. It’s the exact same thing.

It’s basically a rejection either way. You are waiting to see if someone drops out.

So being deferred is better than being put on the waiting list?

Yes

It’s basically the same thing. Pretty common for deferred kids to not be admitted in RD and placed on waitlist.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a related question…why do some colleges directly put ED applicants on the waiting list instead of deferring them to the regular round?

Early years of travel/club sports were good training for this. We had more than one coach tell us “we won’t send rejections, we will email callbacks.” You learned early on a callback was a rejection and the roster was already full. They were keeping you hanging only if someone on their roster dropped out unexpectedly and they could hit you up for $$$$. It’s the exact same thing.

It’s basically a rejection either way. You are waiting to see if someone drops out.

So being deferred is better than being put on the waiting list?

Yes

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a related question…why do some colleges directly put ED applicants on the waiting list instead of deferring them to the regular round?

Early years of travel/club sports were good training for this. We had more than one coach tell us “we won’t send rejections, we will email callbacks.” You learned early on a callback was a rejection and the roster was already full. They were keeping you hanging only if someone on their roster dropped out unexpectedly and they could hit you up for $$$$. It’s the exact same thing.

It’s basically a rejection either way. You are waiting to see if someone drops out.

So being deferred is better than being put on the waiting list?

Anonymous wrote:Last year there were some last minute internationals jumping ship but actually not that many. Several colleges (Dartmouth, etc) did not go the waitlist at all. There was supposed to be some big Harvard waitlist all summer because of internationals and it never came. They admitted like 3 kids in August and that was that.

What happened is that some some top20 schools did really weird enrollment management. Brown was one--they under admitted like 300 kids vs the previous year and then had to go to the waitlist for almost 500 to full these spots. So this in and of itself caused 300 kids to leave other top schools which meant a snow-ball effect of more movement.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a related question…why do some colleges directly put ED applicants on the waiting list instead of deferring them to the regular round?

Early years of travel/club sports were good training for this. We had more than one coach tell us “we won’t send rejections, we will email callbacks.” You learned early on a callback was a rejection and the roster was already full. They were keeping you hanging only if someone on their roster dropped out unexpectedly and they could hit you up for $$$$. It’s the exact same thing.

It’s basically a rejection either way. You are waiting to see if someone drops out.